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On December 19 2017 04:22 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:


Don't you have to have approval from the speaker to bring a bill forward in the house? Why would Paul Ryan allow a vote on any Democrat legislation, especially spending he doesn't want.

On December 19 2017 04:11 Danglars wrote:

He’s got legislation on jack shit this first year. CRAs and a tax bill. His controversies are going to swing all ways on this one, and Democrats are fucking idiots for not working to craft legislation with a big spender in the White House and all these high-deficit R’s fragmenting the coalition. It’s the opportunity of a lifetime, and elected D’s are too busy on Vote Impeachment ‘18 to even care.

On December 19 2017 04:22 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:


Don't you have to have approval from the speaker to bring a bill forward in the house? Why would Paul Ryan allow a vote on any Democrat legislation, especially spending he doesn't want.

Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Friday that he intends to force a vote on a bill that would preserve Obama-era net neutrality rules, which the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) decided to repeal this week.

Democrats want to use the Congressional Review Act (CRA) to overturn the FCC’s decision. The CRA gives Congress the ability, with a majority in the House and Senate, to repeal agency rules. Republicans employed the tactic frequently during the first half of the year to roll back rules passed during the last days of the Obama administration.

“One, this CRA doesn’t need the support of the majority leader,” Schumer said during a press conference at WeWork’s headquarters in New York. “We can bring it to the floor and force a vote. So, there will be a vote to repeal the rule that the FCC passed.”

“It’s in our power to do that and that’s the beauty of the CRA rule,” he continued. “Sometimes we don’t like them, when they used it to repeal some of the pro-environmental regulations, but now we can use the CRA to our benefit, and we intend to.”

Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) announced on Thursday after the FCC’s vote that he and 19 other senators would be introducing the bill, and Rep. Mike Doyle (D-Pa.) has promised companion legislation in the House.

With Republicans in control of both chambers, the bill will have long odds. But net neutrality supporters plan to put the pressure on lawmakers to support the move. And a handful of Republicans, including Sen. Susan Collins (Maine), have come out in opposition to the FCC’s move this week. Still, it’s unclear how many GOP lawmakers, if any, will support the bill.

"Our Republicans colleagues have a choice — be on the right side of history and stand with the American people who support net neutrality, or hold hands with big corporations who only want to increase their profits at the expense of consumers and our economy,” Markey said, applauding Schumer's announcement.

On December 19 2017 05:03 Danglars wrote:

The President campaigned on it, held press conferences on it as President, and Trump basically ran against the current establishment’s ideas and won. In an alternate universe where Dems weren’t still sore about the election loss, this was first six months bipartisan passage.

On December 19 2017 05:12 IyMoon wrote:


Hey, there is this guy who keeps calling us an asshole, lets work really really hard so that he can get a win! Nevermind that his own party could do this, it is on us in the minority!

On December 19 2017 04:27 Plansix wrote:

The Republicans control both the Senate and the House. The Democrats cannot bring bills to the floor or craft anything that will come for a vote. You continue to have a 7th graders understanding of how congress works.

On December 19 2017 03:30 IyMoon wrote:


Oh right, hosting a week of showing off is the same as legislation. My bad, I didn't see how those were one in the same

On December 19 2017 05:13 Danglars wrote:

Somehow, you missed Dems giving into their #Resist faction outright opposed to everything Trump says and does. It doesn’t take a seventh grade education to learn about compromise and its antithesis. Maybe a train crash brings Dems around, who knows.

On December 19 2017 03:37 Logo wrote:


Not to mention isn't Trump's idea for infrastructure is to pay private companies to build infrastructure that they will then own so they can continue to monetize and profit off of it, effectively ruining the whole point of creating public infrastructure while also creating huge opportunities for money to be funneled into the hands of cronies, middlemen and other such drains on efficiency?

On December 19 2017 05:20 Plansix wrote:

No, you are just clinically dense and don’t understand how congress works. But you are talking to a bunch of people that do know and are more than willing to call you stupid for not understanding it after we tell you 55 times. And you continue to be willingly ignorant, so the cycle of violence continues.

There is no bill. That bill will never be created by the conservative dominated house. The democrats have been given nothing to support, even if they wanted to. Republicans control all the levelers of power and have used them to push through only two bills that were specifically designed to not need Democratic support.

A UN security council resolution calling for the withdrawal of Donald Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital has been backed by every council member except the US, which used its veto.

The unanimity of the rest of the council was a stark rebuke to the Trump administration over its unilateral move earlier this month, which upended decades of international consensus.

The Egyptian-drafted resolution did not specifically mention the US or Trump but expressed “deep regret at recent decisions concerning the status of Jerusalem”.

A spokesman for the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, responded to the veto by saying it was “unacceptable and threatens the stability of the international community because it disrespects it”.

The UK and France had indicated in advance that they would would back the text, which demanded that all countries comply with pre-existing UNSC resolutions on Jerusalem, dating back to 1967, including requirements that the city’s final status be decided in direct negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians.

The resolution was denounced in furious language by the US ambassador to the UN, Nikki Haley, who described it as “an insult” that would not be forgotten. “The United States will not be told by any country where we can put our embassy,” she said.

“It’s scandalous to say we are putting back peace efforts,” she added. “The fact that this veto is being done in defence of American sovereignty and in defence of America’s role in the Middle East peace process is not a source of embarrassment for us; it should be an embarrassment to the remainder of the security council.”

The Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, tweeted: “Thank you, Ambassador Haley. On Hanukkah, you spoke like a Maccabi. You lit a candle of truth. You dispel the darkness. One defeated the many. Truth defeated lies. Thank you, President Trump.”

On December 19 2017 05:38 Danglars wrote:

The Democrats should seize the momentum to pass favorable spending bills because Paul Ryan has no huge conservative coalition (apparently forgotten momentarily by you). Announce support of a spending bill that Trump already wants, pressure Ryan to move one to the committees and then floor, and win. How long ago was it when Hillary announced $500 bil on infrastructure and Trump responded with $1 tril? Must have been decades. Either they’re incompetent negotiators (yes, media appearances are part of negotiation by the party out of power) or banking everything on big ‘18 wins.

On December 19 2017 05:42 Introvert wrote:


Tax cuts on the low income side are pretty much always renewed. What should be worrying to the Democrats is that 5% figure. That's super small, and prob a certain class of richer people.

Also when Trump talked about infrastructure I'm pretty sure that Paul Ryan himself said that was on the agenda. I'm amused by people who think that Trump wouldn't support working with the Democrats on that. It's a portion of their own base that should be their concern.