• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:42
CEST 22:42
KST 05:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202577RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18
Community News
EWC 2025 - Replay Pack0Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced25BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed19
StarCraft 2
General
EWC 2025 - Replay Pack #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 I offer completely free coaching services
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025 $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced [Update] ShieldBattery: 2025 Redesign Dewalt's Show Matches in China BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting Does 1 second matter in StarCraft?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
UK Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 719 users

US Politics Mega-thread - Page 9556

Forum Index > Closed
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9554 9555 9556 9557 9558 10093 Next
Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

In order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a re-read to refresh your memory! The vast majority of you are contributing in a healthy way, keep it up!

NOTE: When providing a source, explain why you feel it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion if it's not obvious.
Also take note that unsubstantiated tweets/posts meant only to rekindle old arguments can result in a mod action.
m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
December 18 2017 18:52 GMT
#191101
On December 19 2017 03:48 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2017 03:42 m4ini wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:39 Logo wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:37 m4ini wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:37 Logo wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:30 IyMoon wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:29 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:09 IgnE wrote:
On December 19 2017 02:52 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 02:33 farvacola wrote:
Good thing we're prioritizing infrastructure spending and finding the money to pay for it....oh wait....

Good thing #Resist doesn’t have bad side effects...oh wait...


i have no idea what this means

You have a liberal Republican on spending that already hosted Infrastructure Week, but a Democratic Party too obsessed with united-front opposition to everything Trump to find the compromises.


Oh right, hosting a week of showing off is the same as legislation. My bad, I didn't see how those were one in the same


Not to mention isn't Trump's idea for infrastructure is to pay private companies to build infrastructure that they will then own so they can continue to monetize and profit off of it, effectively ruining the whole point of creating public infrastructure while also creating huge opportunities for money to be funneled into the hands of cronies, middlemen and other such drains on efficiency?


Isn't that already what AMTRAK is though? I might misunderstand that.


I think it depends on what line specifically, a cursory glance says that some tracks they own some they lease.

IIRC correctly in some of the areas they may own (Northeast corridor) they are still partnered with the local commuter lines and there's some sharing agreement going on there.


But it's still a for profit entity with federal funding, no?

Again, i might misunderstand it, entirely possible.

And that Trump likes to shit talk the democrats on twitter all the time. But its the Democrat's fault for nothing looking past that and cutting a deal.


See, trump is a master negotiator. He's forging a deal. You just wait, it's all planned (but as a silly democrat, you can't comprehend that). The reveal will be yuge.

You see, if Democrats had just worked with Republicans on repealing the ACA(they couldn’t, the bill was closed) this tax bill(also they couldn’t), they could have what they want. But it’s the democrats fault for not working on bills that the Republicans refused to allow them access to work on.

Its like welding the factory doors shut and then blaming the workers for not showing up for their shift.


That's what i mean. You don't see the bigger picture.
On track to MA1950A.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-18 18:56:49
December 18 2017 18:56 GMT
#191102
Trump already tweeted in response to the crash about his infrastructure plan. Him and Danglers are on the same wave length! He says the plan is "soon to be submitted."

Funny enough, 10min after that he tweeted a condolences tweet since ofc he didn't consider the humanity of the situation and had to be told by someone else after the fact to tweet about the lives lost.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10700 Posts
December 18 2017 18:58 GMT
#191103
He is just saying what he thinks...
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
December 18 2017 19:11 GMT
#191104
On December 19 2017 03:36 IyMoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2017 03:34 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:30 IyMoon wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:29 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:09 IgnE wrote:
On December 19 2017 02:52 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 02:33 farvacola wrote:
Good thing we're prioritizing infrastructure spending and finding the money to pay for it....oh wait....

Good thing #Resist doesn’t have bad side effects...oh wait...


i have no idea what this means

You have a liberal Republican on spending that already hosted Infrastructure Week, but a Democratic Party too obsessed with united-front opposition to everything Trump to find the compromises.


Oh right, hosting a week of showing off is the same as legislation. My bad, I didn't see how those were one in the same

Against all odds, forum poster decides his political allies were willing to compromise without evidence, and his political enemies were insincere from the start. Maybe you should just own up to #Resist to simply restore credibility. There’s a thought!


question, has there been legislation put forward on this? No? Really? You mean that all of his talk has actually been for nothing that actually matters so far? NO WAY!!!!!!

He’s got legislation on jack shit this first year. CRAs and a tax bill. His controversies are going to swing all ways on this one, and Democrats are fucking idiots for not working to craft legislation with a big spender in the White House and all these high-deficit R’s fragmenting the coalition. It’s the opportunity of a lifetime, and elected D’s are too busy on Vote Impeachment ‘18 to even care.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
December 18 2017 19:17 GMT
#191105
On December 19 2017 03:56 On_Slaught wrote:
Trump already tweeted in response to the crash about his infrastructure plan. Him and Danglers are on the same wave length! He says the plan is "soon to be submitted."

Funny enough, 10min after that he tweeted a condolences tweet since ofc he didn't consider the humanity of the situation and had to be told by someone else after the fact to tweet about the lives lost.

It’s a pretty easy political move when he’s struggling to stamp his name on legislation. No Trumpcare (repeal and replace)... barely getting some Trump tax cuts going... no wall or legislation addressing DACA with compromises. Most everybody on the hill likes spending money. Here’s a news story that plays into it.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-18 19:23:03
December 18 2017 19:22 GMT
#191106
On December 19 2017 04:11 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2017 03:36 IyMoon wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:34 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:30 IyMoon wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:29 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:09 IgnE wrote:
On December 19 2017 02:52 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 02:33 farvacola wrote:
Good thing we're prioritizing infrastructure spending and finding the money to pay for it....oh wait....

Good thing #Resist doesn’t have bad side effects...oh wait...


i have no idea what this means

You have a liberal Republican on spending that already hosted Infrastructure Week, but a Democratic Party too obsessed with united-front opposition to everything Trump to find the compromises.


Oh right, hosting a week of showing off is the same as legislation. My bad, I didn't see how those were one in the same

Against all odds, forum poster decides his political allies were willing to compromise without evidence, and his political enemies were insincere from the start. Maybe you should just own up to #Resist to simply restore credibility. There’s a thought!


question, has there been legislation put forward on this? No? Really? You mean that all of his talk has actually been for nothing that actually matters so far? NO WAY!!!!!!

He’s got legislation on jack shit this first year. CRAs and a tax bill. His controversies are going to swing all ways on this one, and Democrats are fucking idiots for not working to craft legislation with a big spender in the White House and all these high-deficit R’s fragmenting the coalition. It’s the opportunity of a lifetime, and elected D’s are too busy on Vote Impeachment ‘18 to even care.


Don't you have to have approval from the speaker to bring a bill forward in the house? Why would Paul Ryan allow a vote on any Democrat legislation, especially spending he doesn't want.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 18 2017 19:25 GMT
#191107
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 18 2017 19:27 GMT
#191108
On December 19 2017 04:11 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2017 03:36 IyMoon wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:34 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:30 IyMoon wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:29 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:09 IgnE wrote:
On December 19 2017 02:52 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 02:33 farvacola wrote:
Good thing we're prioritizing infrastructure spending and finding the money to pay for it....oh wait....

Good thing #Resist doesn’t have bad side effects...oh wait...


i have no idea what this means

You have a liberal Republican on spending that already hosted Infrastructure Week, but a Democratic Party too obsessed with united-front opposition to everything Trump to find the compromises.


Oh right, hosting a week of showing off is the same as legislation. My bad, I didn't see how those were one in the same

Against all odds, forum poster decides his political allies were willing to compromise without evidence, and his political enemies were insincere from the start. Maybe you should just own up to #Resist to simply restore credibility. There’s a thought!


question, has there been legislation put forward on this? No? Really? You mean that all of his talk has actually been for nothing that actually matters so far? NO WAY!!!!!!

He’s got legislation on jack shit this first year. CRAs and a tax bill. His controversies are going to swing all ways on this one, and Democrats are fucking idiots for not working to craft legislation with a big spender in the White House and all these high-deficit R’s fragmenting the coalition. It’s the opportunity of a lifetime, and elected D’s are too busy on Vote Impeachment ‘18 to even care.

The Republicans control both the Senate and the House. The Democrats cannot bring bills to the floor or craft anything that will come for a vote. You continue to have a 7th graders understanding of how congress works.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Trainrunnef
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States599 Posts
December 18 2017 19:30 GMT
#191109
On December 19 2017 04:22 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2017 04:11 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:36 IyMoon wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:34 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:30 IyMoon wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:29 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:09 IgnE wrote:
On December 19 2017 02:52 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 02:33 farvacola wrote:
Good thing we're prioritizing infrastructure spending and finding the money to pay for it....oh wait....

Good thing #Resist doesn’t have bad side effects...oh wait...


i have no idea what this means

You have a liberal Republican on spending that already hosted Infrastructure Week, but a Democratic Party too obsessed with united-front opposition to everything Trump to find the compromises.


Oh right, hosting a week of showing off is the same as legislation. My bad, I didn't see how those were one in the same

Against all odds, forum poster decides his political allies were willing to compromise without evidence, and his political enemies were insincere from the start. Maybe you should just own up to #Resist to simply restore credibility. There’s a thought!


question, has there been legislation put forward on this? No? Really? You mean that all of his talk has actually been for nothing that actually matters so far? NO WAY!!!!!!

He’s got legislation on jack shit this first year. CRAs and a tax bill. His controversies are going to swing all ways on this one, and Democrats are fucking idiots for not working to craft legislation with a big spender in the White House and all these high-deficit R’s fragmenting the coalition. It’s the opportunity of a lifetime, and elected D’s are too busy on Vote Impeachment ‘18 to even care.


Don't you have to have approval from the speaker to bring a bill forward in the house? Why would Paul Ryan allow a vote on any Democrat legislation, especially spending he doesn't want.


They should still craft it and make sure the court of public opinion loves it to force their hand. Worst case scenario nothing happens, but at least dems dont end up looking like reps after complaining for 8 years and not having worked out a gameplan.
I am, therefore I pee
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 18 2017 19:38 GMT
#191110
On December 19 2017 04:30 Trainrunnef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2017 04:22 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On December 19 2017 04:11 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:36 IyMoon wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:34 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:30 IyMoon wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:29 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:09 IgnE wrote:
On December 19 2017 02:52 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 02:33 farvacola wrote:
Good thing we're prioritizing infrastructure spending and finding the money to pay for it....oh wait....

Good thing #Resist doesn’t have bad side effects...oh wait...


i have no idea what this means

You have a liberal Republican on spending that already hosted Infrastructure Week, but a Democratic Party too obsessed with united-front opposition to everything Trump to find the compromises.


Oh right, hosting a week of showing off is the same as legislation. My bad, I didn't see how those were one in the same

Against all odds, forum poster decides his political allies were willing to compromise without evidence, and his political enemies were insincere from the start. Maybe you should just own up to #Resist to simply restore credibility. There’s a thought!


question, has there been legislation put forward on this? No? Really? You mean that all of his talk has actually been for nothing that actually matters so far? NO WAY!!!!!!

He’s got legislation on jack shit this first year. CRAs and a tax bill. His controversies are going to swing all ways on this one, and Democrats are fucking idiots for not working to craft legislation with a big spender in the White House and all these high-deficit R’s fragmenting the coalition. It’s the opportunity of a lifetime, and elected D’s are too busy on Vote Impeachment ‘18 to even care.


Don't you have to have approval from the speaker to bring a bill forward in the house? Why would Paul Ryan allow a vote on any Democrat legislation, especially spending he doesn't want.


They should still craft it and make sure the court of public opinion loves it to force their hand. Worst case scenario nothing happens, but at least dems dont end up looking like reps after complaining for 8 years and not having worked out a gameplan.

I would need to triple check, but I think the house rules require the speaker’s approval for a bill to be debated or come to the floor. Post Republican takeover in the mid 90s, the Speaker of the House became a dictatorship that could prevent any bill from coming to the floor.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
December 18 2017 19:38 GMT
#191111
Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Friday that he intends to force a vote on a bill that would preserve Obama-era net neutrality rules, which the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) decided to repeal this week.

Democrats want to use the Congressional Review Act (CRA) to overturn the FCC’s decision. The CRA gives Congress the ability, with a majority in the House and Senate, to repeal agency rules. Republicans employed the tactic frequently during the first half of the year to roll back rules passed during the last days of the Obama administration.

“One, this CRA doesn’t need the support of the majority leader,” Schumer said during a press conference at WeWork’s headquarters in New York. “We can bring it to the floor and force a vote. So, there will be a vote to repeal the rule that the FCC passed.”

“It’s in our power to do that and that’s the beauty of the CRA rule,” he continued. “Sometimes we don’t like them, when they used it to repeal some of the pro-environmental regulations, but now we can use the CRA to our benefit, and we intend to.”

Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) announced on Thursday after the FCC’s vote that he and 19 other senators would be introducing the bill, and Rep. Mike Doyle (D-Pa.) has promised companion legislation in the House.

With Republicans in control of both chambers, the bill will have long odds. But net neutrality supporters plan to put the pressure on lawmakers to support the move. And a handful of Republicans, including Sen. Susan Collins (Maine), have come out in opposition to the FCC’s move this week. Still, it’s unclear how many GOP lawmakers, if any, will support the bill.

"Our Republicans colleagues have a choice — be on the right side of history and stand with the American people who support net neutrality, or hold hands with big corporations who only want to increase their profits at the expense of consumers and our economy,” Markey said, applauding Schumer's announcement.
thehill.com
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9618 Posts
December 18 2017 19:40 GMT
#191112
On December 19 2017 04:38 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Friday that he intends to force a vote on a bill that would preserve Obama-era net neutrality rules, which the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) decided to repeal this week.

Democrats want to use the Congressional Review Act (CRA) to overturn the FCC’s decision. The CRA gives Congress the ability, with a majority in the House and Senate, to repeal agency rules. Republicans employed the tactic frequently during the first half of the year to roll back rules passed during the last days of the Obama administration.

“One, this CRA doesn’t need the support of the majority leader,” Schumer said during a press conference at WeWork’s headquarters in New York. “We can bring it to the floor and force a vote. So, there will be a vote to repeal the rule that the FCC passed.”

“It’s in our power to do that and that’s the beauty of the CRA rule,” he continued. “Sometimes we don’t like them, when they used it to repeal some of the pro-environmental regulations, but now we can use the CRA to our benefit, and we intend to.”

Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) announced on Thursday after the FCC’s vote that he and 19 other senators would be introducing the bill, and Rep. Mike Doyle (D-Pa.) has promised companion legislation in the House.

With Republicans in control of both chambers, the bill will have long odds. But net neutrality supporters plan to put the pressure on lawmakers to support the move. And a handful of Republicans, including Sen. Susan Collins (Maine), have come out in opposition to the FCC’s move this week. Still, it’s unclear how many GOP lawmakers, if any, will support the bill.

"Our Republicans colleagues have a choice — be on the right side of history and stand with the American people who support net neutrality, or hold hands with big corporations who only want to increase their profits at the expense of consumers and our economy,” Markey said, applauding Schumer's announcement.
thehill.com


this’ll be exciting. i can’t wait to see how the republican leadership defends going against the wishes of 80% of their constituents in favor of the big corporations that donate hundreds of thousands to their coffers.

and then to have the remaining 20% praise it as great politics.

of course, i would rather they do the right thing and represent their people, even if it costs me this moment.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 18 2017 19:46 GMT
#191113
President Donald Trump on Monday predicted that Republicans will perform “very well” in next year’s midterm elections, touting his party’s record last year in special elections to fill vacant House seats while claiming that he had predicted recent GOP losses in Virginia and Alabama.

“Remember, Republicans are 5-0 in Congressional Races this year. The media refuses to mention this,” the president wrote on Twitter. “I said Gillespie and Moore would lose (for very different reasons), and they did. I also predicted ‘I’ would win. Republicans will do well in 2018, very well!”

It was not clear why the president put “I” in quotation marks. Trump also amended the Twitter username for Fox News' “Fox & Friends” morning show, a program that gives almost unflinchingly positive coverage of him, to the end of his post.

Despite Trump’s claims that he predicted the respective losses of Republican gubernatorial candidate Ed Gillespie in Virginia and senatorial candidate Roy Moore in Alabama, the president was outward in his support for both candidates. Trump endorsed both and implored voters to support them via Twitter. In Moore’s case, Trump recorded a robocall on behalf of the GOP candidate and stumped for him at a rally in Pensacola, Florida, just across the Alabama state line.

In Gillespie's case, Trump did not express doubt about the Virginia Republican's candidacy until after his Election Day defeat.

Omitted from Trump's online post was the victory by Rep. Jimmy Gomez (D-Calif.) in the special election to fill the vacant seat in California's 34th District, left vacant by Xavier Becerra's departure to serve as California's attorney general. The lone Republican who entered the special election for the reliably Democratic seat did not finish high enough in the race's primary to qualify for the June 6, runoff, where Gomez defeated another Democrat.

The defeats in Virginia and especially in deep-red Alabama have stoked concern among some Republicans that the GOP could face a difficult road in the 2018 midterms, weighed down by a president with low approval ratings, a failure to repeal and replace Obamacare and a tax cut bill on the verge of passing that remains unpopular with many Americans.

Even in the five Republican special election wins in House races across the country, Democrats performed much better than they typically might in those districts, mounting significant challenges even in some GOP strongholds like Georgia’s 6th District, Kansas’ 4th District and Montana’s single, at-large district.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Trainrunnef
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States599 Posts
December 18 2017 19:55 GMT
#191114
On December 19 2017 04:38 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2017 04:30 Trainrunnef wrote:
On December 19 2017 04:22 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On December 19 2017 04:11 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:36 IyMoon wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:34 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:30 IyMoon wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:29 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:09 IgnE wrote:
On December 19 2017 02:52 Danglars wrote:
[quote]
Good thing #Resist doesn’t have bad side effects...oh wait...


i have no idea what this means

You have a liberal Republican on spending that already hosted Infrastructure Week, but a Democratic Party too obsessed with united-front opposition to everything Trump to find the compromises.


Oh right, hosting a week of showing off is the same as legislation. My bad, I didn't see how those were one in the same

Against all odds, forum poster decides his political allies were willing to compromise without evidence, and his political enemies were insincere from the start. Maybe you should just own up to #Resist to simply restore credibility. There’s a thought!


question, has there been legislation put forward on this? No? Really? You mean that all of his talk has actually been for nothing that actually matters so far? NO WAY!!!!!!

He’s got legislation on jack shit this first year. CRAs and a tax bill. His controversies are going to swing all ways on this one, and Democrats are fucking idiots for not working to craft legislation with a big spender in the White House and all these high-deficit R’s fragmenting the coalition. It’s the opportunity of a lifetime, and elected D’s are too busy on Vote Impeachment ‘18 to even care.


Don't you have to have approval from the speaker to bring a bill forward in the house? Why would Paul Ryan allow a vote on any Democrat legislation, especially spending he doesn't want.


They should still craft it and make sure the court of public opinion loves it to force their hand. Worst case scenario nothing happens, but at least dems dont end up looking like reps after complaining for 8 years and not having worked out a gameplan.

I would need to triple check, but I think the house rules require the speaker’s approval for a bill to be debated or come to the floor. Post Republican takeover in the mid 90s, the Speaker of the House became a dictatorship that could prevent any bill from coming to the floor.


does it need to go to the floor before being released to the public? if thats the case then maybe we should take advantage of some "leaks"
I am, therefore I pee
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 18 2017 20:01 GMT
#191115
On December 19 2017 04:55 Trainrunnef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2017 04:38 Plansix wrote:
On December 19 2017 04:30 Trainrunnef wrote:
On December 19 2017 04:22 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On December 19 2017 04:11 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:36 IyMoon wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:34 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:30 IyMoon wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:29 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:09 IgnE wrote:
[quote]

i have no idea what this means

You have a liberal Republican on spending that already hosted Infrastructure Week, but a Democratic Party too obsessed with united-front opposition to everything Trump to find the compromises.


Oh right, hosting a week of showing off is the same as legislation. My bad, I didn't see how those were one in the same

Against all odds, forum poster decides his political allies were willing to compromise without evidence, and his political enemies were insincere from the start. Maybe you should just own up to #Resist to simply restore credibility. There’s a thought!


question, has there been legislation put forward on this? No? Really? You mean that all of his talk has actually been for nothing that actually matters so far? NO WAY!!!!!!

He’s got legislation on jack shit this first year. CRAs and a tax bill. His controversies are going to swing all ways on this one, and Democrats are fucking idiots for not working to craft legislation with a big spender in the White House and all these high-deficit R’s fragmenting the coalition. It’s the opportunity of a lifetime, and elected D’s are too busy on Vote Impeachment ‘18 to even care.


Don't you have to have approval from the speaker to bring a bill forward in the house? Why would Paul Ryan allow a vote on any Democrat legislation, especially spending he doesn't want.


They should still craft it and make sure the court of public opinion loves it to force their hand. Worst case scenario nothing happens, but at least dems dont end up looking like reps after complaining for 8 years and not having worked out a gameplan.

I would need to triple check, but I think the house rules require the speaker’s approval for a bill to be debated or come to the floor. Post Republican takeover in the mid 90s, the Speaker of the House became a dictatorship that could prevent any bill from coming to the floor.


does it need to go to the floor before being released to the public? if thats the case then maybe we should take advantage of some "leaks"

No. But there are tons of bills that exist, but will never make it to the floor. There isn’t a lot of debate that happens around bills that have a 0% chance of coming law. Even the ACA repeals of the past were covered with a “look, the GOP is back on its bullshit” style of coverage and debate.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
December 18 2017 20:03 GMT
#191116
On December 19 2017 04:22 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2017 04:11 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:36 IyMoon wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:34 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:30 IyMoon wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:29 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:09 IgnE wrote:
On December 19 2017 02:52 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 02:33 farvacola wrote:
Good thing we're prioritizing infrastructure spending and finding the money to pay for it....oh wait....

Good thing #Resist doesn’t have bad side effects...oh wait...


i have no idea what this means

You have a liberal Republican on spending that already hosted Infrastructure Week, but a Democratic Party too obsessed with united-front opposition to everything Trump to find the compromises.


Oh right, hosting a week of showing off is the same as legislation. My bad, I didn't see how those were one in the same

Against all odds, forum poster decides his political allies were willing to compromise without evidence, and his political enemies were insincere from the start. Maybe you should just own up to #Resist to simply restore credibility. There’s a thought!


question, has there been legislation put forward on this? No? Really? You mean that all of his talk has actually been for nothing that actually matters so far? NO WAY!!!!!!

He’s got legislation on jack shit this first year. CRAs and a tax bill. His controversies are going to swing all ways on this one, and Democrats are fucking idiots for not working to craft legislation with a big spender in the White House and all these high-deficit R’s fragmenting the coalition. It’s the opportunity of a lifetime, and elected D’s are too busy on Vote Impeachment ‘18 to even care.


Don't you have to have approval from the speaker to bring a bill forward in the house? Why would Paul Ryan allow a vote on any Democrat legislation, especially spending he doesn't want.

The President campaigned on it, held press conferences on it as President, and Trump basically ran against the current establishment’s ideas and won. In an alternate universe where Dems weren’t still sore about the election loss, this was first six months bipartisan passage.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 18 2017 20:08 GMT
#191117
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10700 Posts
December 18 2017 20:10 GMT
#191118
He is just an asdhole..

What else is there to respond to that..
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-18 20:15:01
December 18 2017 20:11 GMT
#191119
On December 19 2017 05:03 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2017 04:22 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On December 19 2017 04:11 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:36 IyMoon wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:34 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:30 IyMoon wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:29 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 03:09 IgnE wrote:
On December 19 2017 02:52 Danglars wrote:
On December 19 2017 02:33 farvacola wrote:
Good thing we're prioritizing infrastructure spending and finding the money to pay for it....oh wait....

Good thing #Resist doesn’t have bad side effects...oh wait...


i have no idea what this means

You have a liberal Republican on spending that already hosted Infrastructure Week, but a Democratic Party too obsessed with united-front opposition to everything Trump to find the compromises.


Oh right, hosting a week of showing off is the same as legislation. My bad, I didn't see how those were one in the same

Against all odds, forum poster decides his political allies were willing to compromise without evidence, and his political enemies were insincere from the start. Maybe you should just own up to #Resist to simply restore credibility. There’s a thought!


question, has there been legislation put forward on this? No? Really? You mean that all of his talk has actually been for nothing that actually matters so far? NO WAY!!!!!!

He’s got legislation on jack shit this first year. CRAs and a tax bill. His controversies are going to swing all ways on this one, and Democrats are fucking idiots for not working to craft legislation with a big spender in the White House and all these high-deficit R’s fragmenting the coalition. It’s the opportunity of a lifetime, and elected D’s are too busy on Vote Impeachment ‘18 to even care.


Don't you have to have approval from the speaker to bring a bill forward in the house? Why would Paul Ryan allow a vote on any Democrat legislation, especially spending he doesn't want.

The President campaigned on it, held press conferences on it as President, and Trump basically ran against the current establishment’s ideas and won. In an alternate universe where Dems weren’t still sore about the election loss, this was first six months bipartisan passage.


You mean in an alternate universe where republicans wrote bills that democrats could actually read?

to be fair though I guess republicans couldn't read it either. Yay bipartisanship.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
December 18 2017 20:11 GMT
#191120
Well was this over an area that amtrak actually owns the rails on?

One of the biggest reasons amtrak sucks is most of the time they aren't on their own rails they're buying time on other companies rails which is where you get all the delays etc.
Prev 1 9554 9555 9556 9557 9558 10093 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
18:00
RO8 Round Robin Group - Day 4
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
ZZZero.O221
LiquipediaDiscussion
FEL
09:00
Cracow 2025
Clem vs LamboLIVE!
Reynor vs TBD
RotterdaM2689
ComeBackTV 2487
IndyStarCraft 693
WardiTV445
CranKy Ducklings191
3DClanTV 189
EnkiAlexander 139
Rex70
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 2689
IndyStarCraft 693
Rex 70
StarCraft: Brood War
ZZZero.O 221
NaDa 10
Dota 2
capcasts332
LuMiX2
League of Legends
JimRising 297
febbydoto10
Counter-Strike
fl0m2991
Fnx 2277
Stewie2K637
flusha434
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1947
Mew2King1852
AZ_Axe338
Westballz18
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu582
Khaldor452
Other Games
Grubby2925
B2W.Neo937
tarik_tv583
mouzStarbuck139
Sick29
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick3095
StarCraft 2
angryscii 20
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta21
• LUISG 19
• Adnapsc2 6
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki32
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22106
• WagamamaTV951
League of Legends
• Doublelift4792
Other Games
• imaqtpie1706
• Shiphtur516
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
14h 18m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 13h
WardiTV European League
1d 19h
Online Event
1d 20h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
BSL 20 Team Wars
FEL Cracov 2025
CC Div. A S7
Underdog Cup #2
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.