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Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 15 2017 15:05 GMT
#190741
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 15 2017 15:43 GMT
#190742
On December 15 2017 21:33 farvacola wrote:
Luckily, these idiots will quickly find out that the work of a federal judge is difficult, time consuming, and pays far less than its private practice equivalents. I'd bet very few of Trump's nominees sit on the bench for longer than a decade. That's still plenty of time to do plenty of damage though.


these schmucks couldn't hack it. i've dealt with some pretty ridiculous lawyers before, but none of them were nearly as bad as i-haven't-actually-done-anything-since-law-school guy.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-15 15:53:39
December 15 2017 15:50 GMT
#190743
Who said anything about a phone call?



"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-15 15:57:22
December 15 2017 15:56 GMT
#190744
I think we need a new royal "we": The Trumpian "people."
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22695 Posts
December 15 2017 16:03 GMT
#190745
So, there is a phone call between Trump and someone with a Russian connection.
Good of him to tell us...
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 15 2017 16:05 GMT
#190746
And he's not talking about Yesterday's when he called Putin to thank him for complimenting the economy either.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
December 15 2017 16:11 GMT
#190747
The ACLU has a good post on the whole net neutrality matter.
The FCC’s radical and foolish action today to reverse network neutrality protections means that we have lost an important battle in the war for an open internet. But that war is far from over.

Today’s FCC vote means that we will start to see the telecommunications companies intruding more on how we use the internet and becoming much more aggressive in their efforts to make money off their role as online gatekeepers. But nobody should think that network neutrality is dead. We at the ACLU and our allies will be fighting back — at the federal, state, and local level — to restore the protections that the FCC has now eviscerated. And there is plenty that citizens can do. But the clock is now ticking because Americans may soon begin to see negative changes in the internet they’ve always known.

www.aclu.org

I recommend reading the whole thing through.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
December 15 2017 16:22 GMT
#190748
On December 16 2017 01:11 LegalLord wrote:
The ACLU has a good post on the whole net neutrality matter.
Show nested quote +
The FCC’s radical and foolish action today to reverse network neutrality protections means that we have lost an important battle in the war for an open internet. But that war is far from over.

Today’s FCC vote means that we will start to see the telecommunications companies intruding more on how we use the internet and becoming much more aggressive in their efforts to make money off their role as online gatekeepers. But nobody should think that network neutrality is dead. We at the ACLU and our allies will be fighting back — at the federal, state, and local level — to restore the protections that the FCC has now eviscerated. And there is plenty that citizens can do. But the clock is now ticking because Americans may soon begin to see negative changes in the internet they’ve always known.

www.aclu.org

I recommend reading the whole thing through.

It’s missing Congressional action in the form of legislation. The FCC shouldn’t have the power to classify ISPs as communications providers or utilities (or not) at its whim. Using legislation from more than half a century ago, no less!
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24491 Posts
December 15 2017 16:25 GMT
#190749
On December 16 2017 01:22 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2017 01:11 LegalLord wrote:
The ACLU has a good post on the whole net neutrality matter.
The FCC’s radical and foolish action today to reverse network neutrality protections means that we have lost an important battle in the war for an open internet. But that war is far from over.

Today’s FCC vote means that we will start to see the telecommunications companies intruding more on how we use the internet and becoming much more aggressive in their efforts to make money off their role as online gatekeepers. But nobody should think that network neutrality is dead. We at the ACLU and our allies will be fighting back — at the federal, state, and local level — to restore the protections that the FCC has now eviscerated. And there is plenty that citizens can do. But the clock is now ticking because Americans may soon begin to see negative changes in the internet they’ve always known.

www.aclu.org

I recommend reading the whole thing through.

It’s missing Congressional action in the form of legislation. The FCC shouldn’t have the power to classify ISPs as communications providers or utilities (or not) at its whim. Using legislation from more than half a century ago, no less!


I don't quite remember, do you support the Republican rationale for repealing net neutrality? Why or why not?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 15 2017 16:28 GMT
#190750
On December 16 2017 01:22 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2017 01:11 LegalLord wrote:
The ACLU has a good post on the whole net neutrality matter.
The FCC’s radical and foolish action today to reverse network neutrality protections means that we have lost an important battle in the war for an open internet. But that war is far from over.

Today’s FCC vote means that we will start to see the telecommunications companies intruding more on how we use the internet and becoming much more aggressive in their efforts to make money off their role as online gatekeepers. But nobody should think that network neutrality is dead. We at the ACLU and our allies will be fighting back — at the federal, state, and local level — to restore the protections that the FCC has now eviscerated. And there is plenty that citizens can do. But the clock is now ticking because Americans may soon begin to see negative changes in the internet they’ve always known.

www.aclu.org

I recommend reading the whole thing through.

It’s missing Congressional action in the form of legislation. The FCC shouldn’t have the power to classify ISPs as communications providers or utilities (or not) at its whim. Using legislation from more than half a century ago, no less!

Huh. Danglars saying old legislation is meaningless because its too old.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
December 15 2017 16:35 GMT
#190751
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
December 15 2017 16:39 GMT
#190752
On December 16 2017 01:28 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2017 01:22 Danglars wrote:
On December 16 2017 01:11 LegalLord wrote:
The ACLU has a good post on the whole net neutrality matter.
The FCC’s radical and foolish action today to reverse network neutrality protections means that we have lost an important battle in the war for an open internet. But that war is far from over.

Today’s FCC vote means that we will start to see the telecommunications companies intruding more on how we use the internet and becoming much more aggressive in their efforts to make money off their role as online gatekeepers. But nobody should think that network neutrality is dead. We at the ACLU and our allies will be fighting back — at the federal, state, and local level — to restore the protections that the FCC has now eviscerated. And there is plenty that citizens can do. But the clock is now ticking because Americans may soon begin to see negative changes in the internet they’ve always known.

www.aclu.org

I recommend reading the whole thing through.

It’s missing Congressional action in the form of legislation. The FCC shouldn’t have the power to classify ISPs as communications providers or utilities (or not) at its whim. Using legislation from more than half a century ago, no less!

Huh. Danglars saying old legislation is meaningless because its too old.

Oh, no it’s doing just fine with telephone monopolies.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 15 2017 16:40 GMT
#190753
Color me shocked, Russia asseting control over areas with enemies of western powers and allowing them to operate freely. Never seen that before.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
December 15 2017 16:42 GMT
#190754
On December 16 2017 01:25 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2017 01:22 Danglars wrote:
On December 16 2017 01:11 LegalLord wrote:
The ACLU has a good post on the whole net neutrality matter.
The FCC’s radical and foolish action today to reverse network neutrality protections means that we have lost an important battle in the war for an open internet. But that war is far from over.

Today’s FCC vote means that we will start to see the telecommunications companies intruding more on how we use the internet and becoming much more aggressive in their efforts to make money off their role as online gatekeepers. But nobody should think that network neutrality is dead. We at the ACLU and our allies will be fighting back — at the federal, state, and local level — to restore the protections that the FCC has now eviscerated. And there is plenty that citizens can do. But the clock is now ticking because Americans may soon begin to see negative changes in the internet they’ve always known.

www.aclu.org

I recommend reading the whole thing through.

It’s missing Congressional action in the form of legislation. The FCC shouldn’t have the power to classify ISPs as communications providers or utilities (or not) at its whim. Using legislation from more than half a century ago, no less!


I don't quite remember, do you support the Republican rationale for repealing net neutrality? Why or why not?

FCC should have never gotten involved, to be honest. Congress is way late on this topic. Congress, and not some panel of five, should be responsible for government regulation of the internet. I think people found out the drawbacks of political appointees running things, now that Trump is in power.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 15 2017 16:46 GMT
#190755
Danglars and I agree for once. Congress dropped the ball back on the 1990 when they let the telecoms dictate who got access to cable. Market forces don't drive long lasting infrastructure. Now the internet is critical to the economy, but congress hasn't been involved with it for more than 20 years. Again, leaning on the executive branch to do all the real governing.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10025 Posts
December 15 2017 16:53 GMT
#190756
On December 16 2017 01:40 Plansix wrote:
Color me shocked, Russia asseting control over areas with enemies of western powers and allowing them to operate freely. Never seen that before.


The exact same thing happens in reverse.
I have no idea why anyone would be surprised.
RIP Meatloaf <3
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
December 15 2017 16:53 GMT
#190757
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 15 2017 16:54 GMT
#190758
On December 16 2017 01:53 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2017 01:40 Plansix wrote:
Color me shocked, Russia asseting control over areas with enemies of western powers and allowing them to operate freely. Never seen that before.


The exact same thing happens in reverse.
I have no idea why anyone would be surprised.

Almost like we have an adversarial relationship and people should stop pretending Russia will do us a solid.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
December 15 2017 16:56 GMT
#190759
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
December 15 2017 16:58 GMT
#190760
On December 16 2017 00:05 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/941682118303854592


There’s clearly a political case being laid out in advance as a hedge against whatever may come out of the Mueller investigation. I guess they don’t trust the 9/11 FBI Director or law enforcement generally.
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