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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
October 20 2017 17:33 GMT
#180721
On October 21 2017 02:22 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2017 02:13 Danglars wrote:
On October 21 2017 02:07 GoTuNk! wrote:
On October 20 2017 22:37 Simberto wrote:
On October 20 2017 22:08 Slydie wrote:
On October 20 2017 19:04 Liquid`Drone wrote:
When people speak of 'point of no return' with regard to climate change, it does not mean 'we are fucked from that date', it means 'it'll be too late to revert emissions to hinder stuff like permafrost thawing which might release trapped greenhouse gasses'.

Basically the point of no return is a 'this ensures that global warming will happen on a 'bad' scale 50-100 years from now', not a 'it's gonna go to hell right now'. And there seems to be a consensus that this has already happened. Climate change will have disastrous effects. That's inevitable regardless of what we do now. The question is how disastrous - it's not a binary 'we're fucked' or 'we're fine', it's about moving us closer to the 'we're fine' point of that scale.

I also think arguments such as 'it'll be more costly to hinder climate change than to deal with the effects of climate change' could be totally fine. It's just that this argument is almost exclusively presented by people who also don't acknowledge the scientific consensus, and who also seem entirely opposed to the idea of dealing with the effects of climate change. (For example, there's a strong correlation between 'opposed to immigration' and 'thinks climate change isn't a real problem', but to me, one of the biggest problems with climate change is that even moderate projections will forcibly relocate a 9 digit number of people. The recent refugee crisis was completely insignificant compared to what might happen if any degree of; bangladesh floods, himalayas run out of water, middle east becomes too hot for humans to live, north africa runs out of water, happen. Nobody you should take seriously claims that all of these will definitely happen for sure, but it seems overwhelmingly likely that some of these to some degree happen, and there are so many people living in those regions that even if changes happen that make 10% of the population of those regions have to relocate because those regions can no longer support that many people, then we're looking at a couple hundred million people.. If you wanna be like, 'yeah, but we need the energy to thrive, us western countries just need to accept a couple hundred million more immigrants then', that'd actually be kinda fine with me. It's just, I've never actually seen someone hold that position.


I am all for immigration, but very sceptical about the climate hysteria, for some reasons:

-We are talking about projections with a high degree of uncertainty of an extremely complicated system.
-Our scope of climate is extremely small. Right now, the climate is historically GREAT, fairly warm and stable. What should be looked for ib 10s of millions of years, not 100s. At some point, we will face something truely dramatic, like an ice age or an ash cloud from a supervolcano, but I do not think this global warming is comparable to that.
-Humans deal very well with climate change, emigrating and changing lifestyle. We always have, and will always have to deal with them, as or planet is not a stable place.


In the past, climate happened on timelines of tens thousands of years. That is natural climate change. Currently, global temperatures are rising on timelines of tens to hundreds of years. That is manmade climate change.

Humans are ok at dealing with climate change. No one thinks that this will lead to the extermination of humanity. Humanity will survive it. But that isn't really the baseline you should be looking at. Humanity can survive a lot of things. We should be looking at hardships put onto humans.

Maybe even take an economic outlook. We are currently taking a massive climate loan, which we will have to pay back eventually. We can keep on taking more loans for some time, but eventually we will have to deal with the fallout of all of this. It seems reasonable to make plans to both deal with the costs once they come up, and to reduce the total amount of those costs that eventually will come up. There are good reasons to take those loans. Like scientific advances, or having an agriculture that can feed the people. There are also bad reasons to take those climate loans. Like wanting to drive a giant big truck so everyone can see that you are a manly man.


In the purely economic outlook, if governments REALLY cared about contamination, the would stop expending resources from the future in the present. This is called government debt.
But it seems they are more interested in a political agenda and buying people up, trough the welfare state or this CO2 grants.

Edit: Also, Trump should shut up (and not spoken on monday) and simply ride that ISIS was majorly defeated and the upcoming tax cuts.

He'd have 50-60% approval rating if he shut up and worked. I'm going to venture a guess that it is never going to happen.

I don't think he's getting his tax cuts through. The Republican majority is too fragmented and he lacks advisers with experience to help push bills through Congress. One sad side effect of living in chaos.



Republicans brought this chaos upon themselves. They chose to not work for eight years, and during that time, broke off into their own subsections of republicans, with their own agenda's and views. At least democrats have more or less the same ideology of moving forward rather than backwards.

You're absolutely right that Republicans brought this chaos upon themselves. My explanation is similar but different: they didn't spend time working out Obamacare repeal and replace, perhaps due to some only campaigning on the issue and never intending to push for repeal.

Democrats are now in the obstructionist mode, supported by their base, so I don't know if they get any props for at least moving forward. They're all in for 2018/2020 impeachment elections.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43166 Posts
October 20 2017 17:35 GMT
#180722
Danglars, it's not clear you know what obstructionism is. I'll try to make it simple for you

Being unwilling to sign anything the black man does is obstructionism.
Being unwilling to sign bills you disagree with isn't.

The Democrats aren't opposing the Obamacare repeal out of obstructionism, they're opposing it because they disagree politically with taking the healthcare away from the people.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 20 2017 17:41 GMT
#180723
You know what they say, pander to holocaust deniers, apologize, recant, then pander again

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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 20 2017 17:46 GMT
#180724
On October 21 2017 02:35 KwarK wrote:
Danglars, it's not clear you know what obstructionism is. I'll try to make it simple for you

Being unwilling to sign anything the black man does is obstructionism.
Being unwilling to sign bills you disagree with isn't.

The Democrats aren't opposing the Obamacare repeal out of obstructionism, they're opposing it because they disagree politically with taking the healthcare away from the people.

Danglars does not understand the concept of the “poison pill” when it comes to legislation.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
October 20 2017 18:22 GMT
#180725
We did need more racism in this thread. When a black man does it, it's racism. When a white man does it, it's disagreement.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 20 2017 18:32 GMT
#180726
On October 21 2017 03:22 Danglars wrote:
We did need more racism in this thread. When a black man does it, it's racism. When a white man does it, it's disagreement.

Maybe get a better understanding of obstruction.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
October 20 2017 18:39 GMT
#180727
On October 21 2017 02:41 Nevuk wrote:
You know what they say, pander to holocaust deniers, apologize, recant, then pander again

[image loading]

That guy was a fun ten days, let me tell ya!
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-20 18:45:09
October 20 2017 18:43 GMT
#180728
On October 21 2017 03:22 Danglars wrote:
We did need more racism in this thread. When a black man does it, it's racism. When a white man does it, it's disagreement.


But that's exactly what it is. Republicans didn't do anything for eight years, you said so yourself, they didn't do anything, not even come up with a plan to repeal, why? Because it was a black man in the office, and to top it off, his name was Barack Hussein Obama II. Now they had their chance and have shown they don't do anything in congress other than milk their constituents.

The ones that actually work, and have a brain, disagree with the "new and improved" repeals that came out this year because it hurts people rather than help them. If the republican party would of had a nice plan ready for repeal, then maybe you could say it wasn't racist, it's a disagreement, because they didn't like the current one, but no they didn't have anything ready, and it just shows their true colors.
Life?
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-20 18:54:46
October 20 2017 18:49 GMT
#180729


It's sad to be a human at times.
Life?
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
October 20 2017 19:06 GMT
#180730
On October 21 2017 03:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:
https://twitter.com/JustJOSH_ingYa/status/920841882162417664

It's sad to be a human at times.

pretty dishonest analogy between the two scenarios but seeing the people who actually helped the kid was pretty heart warming.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21914 Posts
October 20 2017 19:12 GMT
#180731
On October 21 2017 04:06 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2017 03:49 ShoCkeyy wrote:
https://twitter.com/JustJOSH_ingYa/status/920841882162417664

It's sad to be a human at times.

pretty dishonest analogy between the two scenarios but seeing the people who actually helped the kid was pretty heart warming.

Well yeah but what can you even use as an 'honest' analogy?

I feel it gets the point across well enough. People care enough to complain about their 3 dollar burger, but won't stand up for someone being bullied right next to them.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
October 20 2017 19:13 GMT
#180732
On October 21 2017 03:22 Danglars wrote:
We did need more racism in this thread. When a black man does it, it's racism. When a white man does it, it's disagreement.

On October 21 2017 03:43 ShoCkeyy wrote:
But that's exactly what it is. Republicans didn't do anything for eight years, you said so yourself, they didn't do anything, not even come up with a plan to repeal, why? Because it was a black man in the office, and to top it off, his name was Barack Hussein Obama II. Now they had their chance and have shown they don't do anything in congress other than milk their constituents.

The ones that actually work, and have a brain, disagree with the "new and improved" repeals that came out this year because it hurts people rather than help them. If the republican party would of had a nice plan ready for repeal, then maybe you could say it wasn't racist, it's a disagreement, because they didn't like the current one, but no they didn't have anything ready, and it just shows their true colors.

It's one of the most pathetic falsehoods in modern history. Obama was doing a lot of things that people didn't like, including signing into law Obamacare. The electorate tossed the bums out. The Democrats went from a filibuster-proof majority to half the senators that voted for it gone and the largest Republican majority in Congress since 1928.

A reasonable person would call that a mandate to oppose his legislative agenda. A miserable human being would call it an elected body of racists. I'd really like to see this forum turn around and we can get into what did get passed and how Obama sucked at compromise and working with Congress. But the first step is to get off this disease that this is all somehow due to racism. It's the absolute antithesis to debate and reasoning. I'm not going to prove the negative that it isn't racism any more than I'll ask you to prove God doesn't exist.

And I didn't say "Republicans didn't do anything for eight years," I said they brought chaos down on themselves for not working on several legislative plans behind the scenes after Obamacare.
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ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3229 Posts
October 20 2017 19:17 GMT
#180733
On October 21 2017 03:22 Danglars wrote:
We did need more racism in this thread. When a black man does it, it's racism. When a white man does it, it's disagreement.

The racism thing aside, there's really not that much ground for calling Dems obstructionists at the moment. There's not been much filibuster talk, because the Republicans aren't able to get their own caucus to vote for stuff. Meanwhile Dems are pursuing bipartisan legislation like the stabilization bill, cutting deals with Trump, etc. Compare to, say, the Garland nomination, where a number of Republicans even admitted that he was perfectly qualified, but simply refused to let it through Congress.

You could argue with obstruction (as I might with racism) that it comes in a wide range of forms and intensities, ranging from virulent to mostly benign, and that the Dems are still guilty of a lesser form of obstructionism. But if you want to flatten all obstructionism to one level, and say the Dems are just as guilty now as the Republicans were then, you've watered the term down to simply mean "voting against legislation they disagree with."
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
October 20 2017 19:18 GMT
#180734
On October 21 2017 04:13 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2017 03:22 Danglars wrote:
We did need more racism in this thread. When a black man does it, it's racism. When a white man does it, it's disagreement.

Show nested quote +
On October 21 2017 03:43 ShoCkeyy wrote:
But that's exactly what it is. Republicans didn't do anything for eight years, you said so yourself, they didn't do anything, not even come up with a plan to repeal, why? Because it was a black man in the office, and to top it off, his name was Barack Hussein Obama II. Now they had their chance and have shown they don't do anything in congress other than milk their constituents.

The ones that actually work, and have a brain, disagree with the "new and improved" repeals that came out this year because it hurts people rather than help them. If the republican party would of had a nice plan ready for repeal, then maybe you could say it wasn't racist, it's a disagreement, because they didn't like the current one, but no they didn't have anything ready, and it just shows their true colors.

It's one of the most pathetic falsehoods in modern history. Obama was doing a lot of things that people didn't like, including signing into law Obamacare. The electorate tossed the bums out. The Democrats went from a filibuster-proof majority to half the senators that voted for it gone and the largest Republican majority in Congress since 1928.

A reasonable person would call that a mandate to oppose his legislative agenda. A miserable human being would call it an elected body of racists. I'd really like to see this forum turn around and we can get into what did get passed and how Obama sucked at compromise and working with Congress. But the first step is to get off this disease that this is all somehow due to racism. It's the absolute antithesis to debate and reasoning. I'm not going to prove the negative that it isn't racism any more than I'll ask you to prove God doesn't exist.

And I didn't say "Republicans didn't do anything for eight years," I said they brought chaos down on themselves for not working on several legislative plans behind the scenes after Obamacare.


OR they look at it as a reflection on the state of the economy and since we were still at the tail end of Bush's recession the party in power got the blame whicj is typically the case.

Honestly Trump should be faring much bettet in polls considering the economy Obama handed him but he has hindered that every step of the way.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 20 2017 19:26 GMT
#180735
Oh look tripling down now

ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
October 20 2017 19:27 GMT
#180736
And the right claim that Trump is helping the economy grow....
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18835 Posts
October 20 2017 19:31 GMT
#180737
I'm thinking that Kelly may resign as chief of staff before too long, call it a hunch
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21914 Posts
October 20 2017 19:31 GMT
#180738
On October 21 2017 04:13 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2017 03:22 Danglars wrote:
We did need more racism in this thread. When a black man does it, it's racism. When a white man does it, it's disagreement.

Show nested quote +
On October 21 2017 03:43 ShoCkeyy wrote:
But that's exactly what it is. Republicans didn't do anything for eight years, you said so yourself, they didn't do anything, not even come up with a plan to repeal, why? Because it was a black man in the office, and to top it off, his name was Barack Hussein Obama II. Now they had their chance and have shown they don't do anything in congress other than milk their constituents.

The ones that actually work, and have a brain, disagree with the "new and improved" repeals that came out this year because it hurts people rather than help them. If the republican party would of had a nice plan ready for repeal, then maybe you could say it wasn't racist, it's a disagreement, because they didn't like the current one, but no they didn't have anything ready, and it just shows their true colors.

It's one of the most pathetic falsehoods in modern history. Obama was doing a lot of things that people didn't like, including signing into law Obamacare. The electorate tossed the bums out. The Democrats went from a filibuster-proof majority to half the senators that voted for it gone and the largest Republican majority in Congress since 1928.

A reasonable person would call that a mandate to oppose his legislative agenda. A miserable human being would call it an elected body of racists. I'd really like to see this forum turn around and we can get into what did get passed and how Obama sucked at compromise and working with Congress. But the first step is to get off this disease that this is all somehow due to racism. It's the absolute antithesis to debate and reasoning. I'm not going to prove the negative that it isn't racism any more than I'll ask you to prove God doesn't exist.

And I didn't say "Republicans didn't do anything for eight years," I said they brought chaos down on themselves for not working on several legislative plans behind the scenes after Obamacare.

A reasonable person would call it a mandate to roll out better healthcare. I understand them not doing it while Obama was in power but that doesn't excuse the rest of their obstructionism. The Supreme Court being the cherry on top.

So, now that they control all 3 branches. Where is that better healthcare they were elected on, that they had 6 years to work on?

You can cry foul all you want, the proof is right there. They all ran on removing the ACA and giving Americas something better. And they have NOTHING to show for it. 6 years and now that its on them they are standing there with their pants down trying to blame the other side when they cant even get a simple majority vote.
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
October 20 2017 19:38 GMT
#180739
On October 21 2017 04:17 ChristianS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2017 03:22 Danglars wrote:
We did need more racism in this thread. When a black man does it, it's racism. When a white man does it, it's disagreement.

The racism thing aside, there's really not that much ground for calling Dems obstructionists at the moment. There's not been much filibuster talk, because the Republicans aren't able to get their own caucus to vote for stuff. Meanwhile Dems are pursuing bipartisan legislation like the stabilization bill, cutting deals with Trump, etc. Compare to, say, the Garland nomination, where a number of Republicans even admitted that he was perfectly qualified, but simply refused to let it through Congress.

You could argue with obstruction (as I might with racism) that it comes in a wide range of forms and intensities, ranging from virulent to mostly benign, and that the Dems are still guilty of a lesser form of obstructionism. But if you want to flatten all obstructionism to one level, and say the Dems are just as guilty now as the Republicans were then, you've watered the term down to simply mean "voting against legislation they disagree with."

Quote the post. I used it to Shokeyy's assertion that Democrats are moving forward. They're not. I might be interested on your opinion on that divide.
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Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
October 20 2017 19:41 GMT
#180740
On October 21 2017 04:26 Nevuk wrote:
Oh look tripling down now

https://twitter.com/ScaramucciPost/status/921441476340518913


The people in thst twitter genuinely concern me. Bigots who invented there own facts sprinkled with a few inages with context removed to make themselves feel as though they aren't bigots.
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