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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 23 2017 02:48 GMT
#170561
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5065 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-23 02:51:22
August 23 2017 02:49 GMT
#170562
He's basically punting on the sheriff. Chances that he is going to pardon just dropped by a lot.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 23 2017 02:50 GMT
#170563
I mean he can, but the sheriff ignored the judicial system he swore to serve.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5065 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-23 02:53:06
August 23 2017 02:51 GMT
#170564
On August 23 2017 11:47 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2017 11:40 Introvert wrote:
On August 23 2017 11:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Where is John Kelly right now?





This is why no one likes reporters, and makes Trump's point when he talks about the media.

Jeff Lord tweeted it out as a joke, as is painfully obvious. CNN used it as a pretense. Their patience for Trump defenders has waned lately.

Now this ESPN story is going to be in the news for the next few days. So insane.

Maybe if you're a reporter for CNN don't joke about being a Nazi. I say all sorts of shit on here that I would absolutely not say as a public figure if my employer could see it.


Let's pretend that's why they fired him.

The reporter's tweet lacked context at best and was downright dishonest at worst. We don't need tweets like this posted as "news."

Edit: JL was a commentator, not a reporter.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-23 02:56:03
August 23 2017 02:51 GMT
#170565


He loves America, except for the heart of our democracy.

Brace yourselves:

I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
August 23 2017 02:56 GMT
#170566
This Trump speech is just a terribly stupid liberal parody of the Bush2 administration. The liberal caricature ended up being sadly right.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-23 02:59:14
August 23 2017 02:58 GMT
#170567
I thought Mexico was paying for the Wall, now the government is going to shut down until we pay for it ourselves?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44398 Posts
August 23 2017 02:59 GMT
#170568
On August 23 2017 11:51 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2017 11:47 KwarK wrote:
On August 23 2017 11:40 Introvert wrote:
On August 23 2017 11:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Where is John Kelly right now?

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/900184046705283072

https://twitter.com/sarahkendzior/status/900184032042000385


This is why no one likes reporters, and makes Trump's point when he talks about the media.

Jeff Lord tweeted it out as a joke, as is painfully obvious. CNN used it as a pretense. Their patience for Trump defenders has waned lately.

Now this ESPN story is going to be in the news for the next few days. So insane.

Maybe if you're a reporter for CNN don't joke about being a Nazi. I say all sorts of shit on here that I would absolutely not say as a public figure if my employer could see it.


Let's pretend that's why they fired him.

The reporter's tweet lacked context at best and was downright dishonest at worst. We don't need tweets like this posted as "news."

Edit: JL was a commentator, not a reporter.

I know it was a joke and taken out of context. But I get why CNN wouldn't want to have to explain over and over why it's okay that they're paying him and that he's not actually a Nazi. Right or wrong doesn't change whether or not you're a professional liability. They fired him because it was easier than not firing him.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 23 2017 03:01 GMT
#170569
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Wulfey_LA
Profile Joined April 2017
932 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-23 03:17:40
August 23 2017 03:01 GMT
#170570
I see we are on the McConnel and McCain subtweet phase of the speech. DJT remains a coward. Can't fire anyone himself. Can't pick fights with anyone that can fight him back.

EDIT: LOL throw in Flake too. This is some Emperor Caligula level delusion going on.
EDIT2: 8 years ... they couldn't get healthcare ... but Obamacare. He says this in the same sentence. ACA passed during Obama admin ...
EDIT3: this is the feeblest and most lie ridden advocacy for Autarky I have ever heard. Sometime I forget just how rotten Trump is. Every one of his fact claims and plans are nonsense that could be dispelled with a simple wikipedia search. My contempt for Trump-spinners only rises as I hear the man speak.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 23 2017 03:05 GMT
#170571
Yes. Attack senators from your own party in their state. That's a great plan.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 23 2017 03:06 GMT
#170572
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-23 03:08:48
August 23 2017 03:08 GMT
#170573
On August 23 2017 11:58 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
I thought Mexico was paying for the Wall, now the government is going to shut down until we pay for it ourselves?

He is promising to shut it down. Congress gunna be like "bitch, we decide when this party stops."

I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 23 2017 03:08 GMT
#170574
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-23 03:38:32
August 23 2017 03:28 GMT
#170575


edit:

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-23 03:45:19
August 23 2017 03:44 GMT
#170576
Damn. That is savage and sadly accurate.

Also accurate:

I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12600 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-23 03:47:08
August 23 2017 03:45 GMT
#170577
(Riot?) outside says twitter. You're okay onslaught?
No will to live, no wish to die
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 23 2017 03:51 GMT
#170578
The relationship between President Trump and Senator Mitch McConnell, the majority leader, has disintegrated to the point that they have not spoken to each other in weeks, and Mr. McConnell has privately expressed uncertainty that Mr. Trump will be able to salvage his administration after a series of summer crises.

What was once an uneasy governing alliance has curdled into a feud of mutual resentment and sometimes outright hostility, complicated by the position of Mr. McConnell’s wife, Elaine L. Chao, in Mr. Trump’s cabinet, according to more than a dozen people briefed on their imperiled partnership. Angry phone calls and private badmouthing have devolved into open conflict, with the president threatening to oppose Republican senators who cross him, and Mr. McConnell mobilizing to their defense.

The rupture between Mr. Trump and Mr. McConnell comes at a highly perilous moment for Republicans, who face a number of urgent deadlines when they return to Washington next month. Congress must approve new spending measures and raise the statutory limit on government borrowing within weeks of reconvening, and Republicans are hoping to push through an elaborate rewrite of the federal tax code. There is scant room for legislative error on any front.

A protracted government shutdown or a default on sovereign debt could be disastrous — for the economy and for the party that controls the White House and both chambers of Congress.

Yet Mr. Trump and Mr. McConnell are locked in a political cold war. Neither man would comment for this story. Don Stewart, a spokesman for Mr. McConnell, noted that the senator and the president had “shared goals,” and pointed to “tax reform, infrastructure, funding the government, not defaulting on the debt, passing the defense authorization bill.”

Still, the back-and-forth has been dramatic.

In a series of tweets this month, Mr. Trump criticized Mr. McConnell publicly, then berated him in a phone call that quickly devolved into a profane shouting match.

During the call, which Mr. Trump initiated on Aug. 9 from his New Jersey golf club, the president accused Mr. McConnell of bungling the health care issue. He was even more animated about what he intimated was the Senate leader’s refusal to protect him from investigations of Russian interference in the 2016 election, according to Republicans briefed on the conversation.

Mr. McConnell has fumed over Mr. Trump’s regular threats against fellow Republicans and criticism of Senate rules, and questioned Mr. Trump’s understanding of the presidency in a public speech. Mr. McConnell has made sharper comments in private, describing Mr. Trump as entirely unwilling to learn the basics of governing.

In offhand remarks, Mr. McConnell has expressed a sense of bewilderment about where Mr. Trump’s presidency may be headed, and has mused about whether Mr. Trump will be in a position to lead the Republican Party into next year’s elections and beyond, according to people who have spoken to him directly.

While maintaining a pose of public reserve, Mr. McConnell expressed horror to advisers last week after Mr. Trump’s comments equating white supremacists in Charlottesville, Va., with protesters who rallied against them. Mr. Trump’s most explosive remarks came at a news conference in Manhattan, where he stood beside Ms. Chao. (Ms. Chao, deflecting a question about the tensions between her husband and the president she serves, told reporters, “I stand by my man — both of them.”)

Mr. McConnell signaled to business leaders that he was deeply uncomfortable with Mr. Trump’s comments: Several who resigned advisory roles in the Trump administration contacted Mr. McConnell’s office after the fact, and were told that Mr. McConnell fully understood their choices, three people briefed on the conversations said.

Mr. Trump has also continued to badger and threaten Mr. McConnell’s Senate colleagues, including Senator Jeff Flake of Arizona, whose Republican primary challenger was praised by Mr. Trump last week.

Mr. Trump was set to hold a campaign rally on Tuesday night in Phoenix, and Republicans feared he would use the event to savage Mr. Flake again.

If he does, senior Republican officials said the party’s senators would stand up for their colleague. A Republican “super PAC” aligned with Mr. McConnell released a web ad on Tuesday assailing Mr. Flake’s Republican rival, Kelli Ward, as a fringe-dwelling conspiracy theorist.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
August 23 2017 03:59 GMT
#170579
On August 23 2017 11:51 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/DaviSusan/status/900188447234813953

He loves America, except for the heart of our democracy.

Brace yourselves:

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/900189390823198721

I guess if you think democracy means thou shalt not criticize. Which, to be honest, is a mistake many reporters choose to make.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 23 2017 04:04 GMT
#170580
On August 23 2017 12:59 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2017 11:51 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/DaviSusan/status/900188447234813953

He loves America, except for the heart of our democracy.

Brace yourselves:

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/900189390823198721

I guess if you think democracy means thou shalt not criticize. Which, to be honest, is a mistake many reporters choose to make.


There's a huge difference between criticizing and declaring the free press an enemy, labeling your supporters as true Americans with legit heritage is very very dangerous and even anti-democratic.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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