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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
Come on Trump, tweet! | ||
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PhoenixVoid
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
Just to clarify, he's on the record with Lynch interfering with the Hillary investigation and Trump not trying to shut down the Russia investigation. Also literally true that Trump was not the subject of the counter terrorism investigation. A little more ammo against the hardcore activists that claim he fired Comey, the man investigating him personally. (Not the same wackos on this forum, more my lib friends irl) | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
Yes if you can take anything from this, it's that the justice department isn't very impartial, on both sides. In fact Sessions actually did a fucking service to the country by recusing himself w/o trumps permission. He deserves credit for that. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
Pretty silly to say not by Trump. It's both of them. | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
On June 08 2017 23:41 Mohdoo wrote: I think Ivanka tranquilized Trump and he's chained up in a basement until this is over. Yeah cause I dont think you can keep him handcuffed with the size of his hands. Seriously I am really disapointed that The Donald didnt go on a live twitter flaming session. Damned lawyers!! | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13422 Posts
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On June 08 2017 23:41 Mohdoo wrote: I think Ivanka tranquilized Trump and he's chained up in a basement until this is over. Someone had to force him to put his phone down, one way or another. You know he'd be foaming at the mouth to tweet his fool head off. He's uncharacteristically quiet today. | ||
Falling
Canada11607 Posts
On June 08 2017 18:14 GreenHorizons wrote: Other students, professors, and the university as an institution. This literally started because a silly professor interpreted the white work groups being held off campus as an anti-white day. As if people thought all of the whites on campus were going to be expected at a venue holding 200 people. The presumption was that most of the whites would be on campus like any other day. "Other students, professors, and the university as an institution" In what way? According to collegesimply, 1707 were admitted out of 1744 applicants. With a 98% acceptance rate, it seems unlikely the oppression is occuring at the acceptance level. (Only 35% of those accepted chose to enroll, so that is self-selection.) Do you see Bret's email to faculty as part of the oppression? I wish you wouldn't misrepresent Bret's position. "anti-white day" is a phrase picked up by the various right wing media. I might be wrong, but I don't recall actually relying upon any traditional media: just the raw footage and two long form interviews from new media. I bothered to transcribe parts of an interview of Bret explaining in his own words how he saw the event; I wish you would read it. Here it is again + Show Spoiler + On May 31 2017 13:33 Falling wrote: I'm sorry if people are tired of this particular topic. But there were some claims that Weinstein was either deliberately or ignorantly misrepresenting what the new Day of Absence was supposed to be and while I hadn't seen where some of those ideas were coming from, I've found a decent follow up where he was able to explain more fully what his understanding was on the Rubin Report. (It's also not the hyperventilating right wing media that relies upon sound bites- just a straight interview for two hour.) The part I want to highlight starts at 17:00 minutes thereabouts. Interesting behind the scenes look into faculty releations at 42:00 The point being that if you were in support of equity for minority groups, you would be off campus: that is where the allies were going to be. The reverse would then seem to follow: whites who show up to campus that day are not allies of minority groups. That's a pretty powerful implication. He elsewhere explained that those 200 spaces were not the limit of what was expected to occur off campus. Campuses are designed for dissent, so yeah they make prime targets. They also happen to house the demo most likely to turn to something like spontaneous protest as a tool of resistance. As for the indigenous part, the opening of the statement (which caused quite a stir) was a direct demand of indigenous members of the actions. Source Well, alright. That doesn't much sound like the university is directly oppressing them. That sounds like greviences resulting from the Indian Wars back in the day. Which, fair enough, America will likely have to go through the same process of land claims, resource use, and pushes for autonomous rule as Canada (and BC specifically) is going through. That largely seems to be a governmental affair. But it doesn't seem to me that the college itself is oppressing indigenous people, except that exists. Or is it simply by existing as a institution on traditional grounds that makes the college oppressive to indigenous people? So if we blew up the college, tore up the roads and parking lots and replanted the lands with trees, and turned the land back over to the indigenous people (with enough material to build as many long houses as they needed), then the indigenous people would no longer be oppressed by the college? The students appreciate the victories they have gotten, but they don't view the situation as the administration bowing to them. So perhaps this is one of those Trumpian "bad deals", but it's impossible to see as total capitulation to students (and staff/faculty). Well, obviously not. They haven't fired Bret, and his students haven't been given full credit for incomplete classes that would resulted from firing Bret. So I guess it's a bad deal, then. I don't know how you can see footage of the president literally obeying students orders on what he can and can not do with his arms and hands and them laughing at him as he jerks around like a puppet as anything other than capitulation as far as any crusty bureacracy can- or at least as any bureacacy that still has protocols for firing staff members. The fact that the president didn't fire Bret on the spot, means that the administration hasn't been cowed by the student body? Does that seem a reasonable standard? | ||
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ZeromuS
Canada13422 Posts
On June 08 2017 23:43 Doodsmack wrote: Pretty silly to say not by Trump. It's both of them. No one knows what was said on that plane. Thats the thing. Whereas we do know what was said between Trump and Comey. Further -- comey made a decision based on optics -- not information. | ||
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On June 08 2017 23:44 NewSunshine wrote: Someone had to force him to put his phone down, one way or another. You know he'd be foaming at the mouth to tweet his fool head off. He's uncharacteristically quiet today. He's done something impeach-worthy is out, make him do something impeach-worthy by irritation is so, so in. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On June 08 2017 23:45 ZeromuS wrote: No one knows what was said on that plane. Thats the thing. Whereas we do know what was said between Trump and Comey. Further -- comey made a decision based on optics -- not information. your faith in politicians is misplaced, there's a reason why this dude is hated by both democrats and republicans, selectively. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On June 08 2017 23:46 Danglars wrote: He's done something impeach-worthy is out, make him do something impeach-worthy by irritation is so, so in. I don't know how what you're saying has anything to do with what I said, or why you're replying to me when I told you I would no longer reciprocate. I'm not in the mood to argue with you. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46438 Posts
On June 08 2017 23:46 Titusmaster6 wrote: At work today but following this thread religiously. Any updates from the hearing is much appreciated guys. Thank you Same here! | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13422 Posts
https://www.c-span.org/networks/?channel=radio audio -- im listening at work too | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
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