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Read the rules in the OP before posting, please.

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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46200 Posts
June 08 2017 14:52 GMT
#155981
On June 08 2017 23:50 ZeromuS wrote:
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On June 08 2017 23:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 08 2017 23:46 Titusmaster6 wrote:
At work today but following this thread religiously. Any updates from the hearing is much appreciated guys. Thank you


Same here!


https://www.c-span.org/networks/?channel=radio

audio -- im listening at work too


Thanks! Found this too:

"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
June 08 2017 14:53 GMT
#155982
Comey is fiercely independent, that's for sure. States that NYT story was not true, I didn't catch which story though.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-08 14:55:59
June 08 2017 14:54 GMT
#155983
Rep. Senator went into the wording of the Flynn talk. 'I hope you let it go' Says it's not obstruction since hoping is not an order. Comey replies that while the words are not an order he did feel like it was a direction from Trump given the setting.

Also that he believes he was fired for the way he was handling the Russia investigation since he heard the president say that
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
June 08 2017 14:54 GMT
#155984
Pretty directly saying he felt like the president was asking him to drop the investigation.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32750 Posts
June 08 2017 14:55 GMT
#155985
On June 08 2017 23:53 Doodsmack wrote:
Comey is fiercely independent, that's for sure. States that NYT story was not true, I didn't catch which story though.

The story that said Trump and his team was under investigation for ties to Russia I believe?
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13410 Posts
June 08 2017 14:55 GMT
#155986
On June 08 2017 23:46 biology]major wrote:
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On June 08 2017 23:45 ZeromuS wrote:
On June 08 2017 23:43 Doodsmack wrote:
On June 08 2017 23:41 Danglars wrote:



Pretty silly to say not by Trump. It's both of them.


No one knows what was said on that plane. Thats the thing.

Whereas we do know what was said between Trump and Comey.

Further -- comey made a decision based on optics -- not information.


your faith in politicians is misplaced, there's a reason why this dude is hated by both democrats and republicans, selectively.


I don't have faith in all politicians.

What I do have is an understanding of how things work when people make statements.

He said he wanted to avoid the optics that the investigation was tainted. And reports have come out that there was misinformation pointing to the fact that it was tainted.

I mean, you can't claim political interference without actual proof. And theres way more proof pointing to Trump trying to interfere than there is wrt clinton and lynch.
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Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1975 Posts
June 08 2017 14:55 GMT
#155987
On June 08 2017 23:44 NewSunshine wrote:
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On June 08 2017 23:41 Mohdoo wrote:
I think Ivanka tranquilized Trump and he's chained up in a basement until this is over.

Someone had to force him to put his phone down, one way or another. You know he'd be foaming at the mouth to tweet his fool head off. He's uncharacteristically quiet today.


He will wait until it the hearing is done, then:

A: Conjure up some outrageous claims back at Comey.
or
B: Say something "shocking" about something unrelated, like "clinton e-mail" or "Obama wiring."

Come on Trumpie, I know you by now! He is actually never really defending himself, he always attacks back.
Buff the siegetank
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13410 Posts
June 08 2017 14:56 GMT
#155988
On June 08 2017 23:54 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Rep. Senator went into the wording of the Flynn talk. 'I hope you let it go' Says it's not obstruction since hoping is not an order. Comey replies that while the words are not an order he did feel like it was a direction from Trump given the setting.


Yeah technicalities on the words "hope"

But the context is super important. As a lawyer he should know full well.
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
June 08 2017 14:56 GMT
#155989
If your boss walks up to your and tells you he "hopes you do something," then you take that as direction. Period. Especially when he does it all Godfather style in some private dinner.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
June 08 2017 14:57 GMT
#155990
On June 08 2017 23:47 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 23:46 Danglars wrote:
On June 08 2017 23:44 NewSunshine wrote:
On June 08 2017 23:41 Mohdoo wrote:
I think Ivanka tranquilized Trump and he's chained up in a basement until this is over.

Someone had to force him to put his phone down, one way or another. You know he'd be foaming at the mouth to tweet his fool head off. He's uncharacteristically quiet today.

He's done something impeach-worthy is out, make him do something impeach-worthy by irritation is so, so in.

I don't know how what you're saying has anything to do with what I said, or why you're replying to me when I told you I would no longer reciprocate. I'm not in the mood to argue with you.

As in, he's put his phone down (someone's spelled it out for him) because the entire play is for him to tweet something or say something that dooms him. Your mood today in this debate forum is noted; if you don't want to respond don't respond.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
June 08 2017 14:58 GMT
#155991
On June 08 2017 23:55 Slydie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 23:44 NewSunshine wrote:
On June 08 2017 23:41 Mohdoo wrote:
I think Ivanka tranquilized Trump and he's chained up in a basement until this is over.

Someone had to force him to put his phone down, one way or another. You know he'd be foaming at the mouth to tweet his fool head off. He's uncharacteristically quiet today.


He will wait until it the hearing is done, then:

A: Conjure up some outrageous claims back at Comey.
or
B: Say something "shocking" about something unrelated, like "clinton e-mail" or "Obama wiring."

Come on Trumpie, I know you by now! He is actually never really defending himself, he always attacks back.

I have his Twitter just sitting open today, periodically checking for when he finally lets loose. I admit I will be a little sad if we don't see The Donald blow up over this.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13410 Posts
June 08 2017 14:58 GMT
#155992
Senator: why didnt you say stop mr president?

Comey: I was taken aback and I wish I was stronger and could have been more direct/clear
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
June 08 2017 14:58 GMT
#155993
On June 08 2017 23:57 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 23:47 NewSunshine wrote:
On June 08 2017 23:46 Danglars wrote:
On June 08 2017 23:44 NewSunshine wrote:
On June 08 2017 23:41 Mohdoo wrote:
I think Ivanka tranquilized Trump and he's chained up in a basement until this is over.

Someone had to force him to put his phone down, one way or another. You know he'd be foaming at the mouth to tweet his fool head off. He's uncharacteristically quiet today.

He's done something impeach-worthy is out, make him do something impeach-worthy by irritation is so, so in.

I don't know how what you're saying has anything to do with what I said, or why you're replying to me when I told you I would no longer reciprocate. I'm not in the mood to argue with you.

As in, he's put his phone down (someone's spelled it out for him) because the entire play is for him to tweet something or say something that dooms him. Your mood today in this debate forum is noted; if you don't want to respond don't respond.

I like to respond to people who have actual discussion, you do not. Stop picking me out of the group for no reason.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
June 08 2017 14:59 GMT
#155994
On June 08 2017 23:58 ZeromuS wrote:
Senator: why didnt you say stop mr president?

Comey: I was taken aback and I wish I was stronger and could have been more direct/clear


That's why comey will win the opinion of the public, because he is so honest he will admit his own wrongdoings.
Question.?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 08 2017 14:59 GMT
#155995
On June 08 2017 23:56 On_Slaught wrote:
If your boss walks up to your and tells you he "hopes you do something," then you take that as direction. Period. Especially when he does it all Godfather style in some private dinner.


yeah, not all of us just fell of the turnip truck.

more recently, comey emphasizing how beyond the pale trumps conduct was. .
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Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-08 15:01:36
June 08 2017 15:00 GMT
#155996
Someone forgot there's more than one Trump. Jr's tweeting up a storm (even if none of it is anything particularly juicy).

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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
June 08 2017 15:00 GMT
#155997
538 is liveblogging as well http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/comey-testimony/?ex_cid=promo_banner
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
June 08 2017 15:01 GMT
#155998
On June 08 2017 23:56 On_Slaught wrote:
If your boss walks up to your and tells you he "hopes you do something," then you take that as direction. Period. Especially when he does it all Godfather style in some private dinner.


The good thing is, everyone and anyone who is reviewing this matter will interpret it the same way. This nonsense about "but that wasn't the word used" is ridiculous. If your boss spoke to you like that, and you didn't do what they hoped for, you fucked up. No two ways about it.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 08 2017 15:01 GMT
#155999
On June 08 2017 23:59 biology]major wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2017 23:58 ZeromuS wrote:
Senator: why didnt you say stop mr president?

Comey: I was taken aback and I wish I was stronger and could have been more direct/clear


That's why comey will win the opinion of the public, because he is so honest he will admit his own wrongdoings.

Especially in contrast with Trump, who can’t even admit the smallest mistake.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
June 08 2017 15:02 GMT
#156000
Oh Feinstein ... good tries though, considering what she's got.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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