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On June 01 2017 05:04 brian wrote: that's what i don't buy. we're still capitalists, if the money is there so will the rest of the innovators.
That's not always how it works. Industries don't appear, they grow. Supply chains are built, skilled workers are trained and so forth. The nation that shoulders an upfront cost through subsidies will have a huge competitive advantage as new opportunities emerge. Say you're right and in ten years solar becomes a great household investment and it is economically viable to produce them in the US. The price at which an existing industry can expand to meet that new demand will be a fraction of the costs to quoted by an emerging domestic industry and the domestic industry will be smothered in its cradle. We've seen it happen throughout the developing world, time and time again. The only unusual bit is that the US won't be on the winning side.
On June 01 2017 05:04 brian wrote: that's what i don't buy. we're still capitalists, if the money is there so will the rest of the innovators.
The rest of the world decided to make it easier to invest in this growth industry. We decided that was bad and we should go back to pushing coal. Our business sector disagrees, so they will go to other countries with their money. So we will get to buy our solar panels from China or India, rather than make them here in the US.
and re: kwark
yup. thanks. this was the now obvious piece i was missing.
On June 01 2017 05:04 brian wrote: that's what i don't buy. we're still capitalists, if the money is there so will the rest of the innovators.
The rest of the world decided to make it easier to invest in this growth industry. We decided that was bad and we should go back to pushing coal. Our business sector disagrees, so they will go to other countries with their money. So we will get to buy our solar panels from China or India, rather than make them here in the US.
and re: kwark
yup. thanks. this was the now obvious piece i was missing.
If you want an example of what Kwark is talking about, look up how Apples investment in both flash memory and touch screens changed the tech products we were seeing. Both those investments drove down the prices and made stuff like SSDs make way more sense to design.
On June 01 2017 04:30 Luolis wrote: I dunno why people aren't talking about the Paris accords thing more here. It's a pretty fucking big deal at least imo
Discussions only arise when there is disagreement.
So people actually agree that it's a good thing? :D
Wow I thought this was another joke from Spicer like tweeting that Onion article but I think he was actually serious now that I finally listen to the audio
What did i do before i had the Trump white house? There must have been other things that were unbelievably funny and frightening at the same time. What did i care fore before he came?
On June 01 2017 05:57 Broetchenholer wrote: What did i do before i had the Trump white house? There must have been other things that were unbelievably funny and frightening at the same time. What did i care fore before he came?
Spicer truly has evolved into Baghdad Bob, it's Orwellian at this point. I'd recommend to watch the Clinton ReCode interview if you've got the time It's pretty good
Surely people advised him to just laugh it off as a dumb little mistake. But even for such a silly thing he cannot except a small slight to his ego. And forced them to say he knew what he was doing. Imagine working with him on bigger topics on which he NEEDS to be advised because he doesn't know anything about them. He will still push through his ego just because he can. That's why Comey was fired. That's why we got the bs NATO speech. That's why he'll leave Paris Climate Accords. There will be no proper explanation for it, no argumentation. It was just what he felt like doing and nothing more.
My goodness, reading this thread is addictive. Trump and his White House just keeps giving and giving. I don't even watch tv in the evening anymore, just news covfefe.
A woman believed to have been attempting to seek asylum in Canada died of exposure while attempting to cross the US border in a remote part of northern Minnesota, authorities have concluded.
Mavis Otuteye, 57, who is thought to have been from Ghana, died from hypothermia near Noyes, Minnesota, on 26 May, according to a preliminary autopsy.
Her body was found by the Kittson County sheriff’s department and the US Border Patrol less than a kilometer from Emerson, Manitoba.
“Someone died trying to come into Canada to claim asylum,” said Greg Janzen, a local official in Emerson. “It was something at the back our minds we thought would happen, but not at this time of year.”A woman believed to have been attempting to seek asylum in Canada died of exposure while attempting to cross the US border in a remote part of northern Minnesota, authorities have concluded.
Mavis Otuteye, 57, who is thought to have been from Ghana, died from hypothermia near Noyes, Minnesota, on 26 May, according to a preliminary autopsy.
Her body was found by the Kittson County sheriff’s department and the US Border Patrol less than a kilometer from Emerson, Manitoba.
“Someone died trying to come into Canada to claim asylum,” said Greg Janzen, a local official in Emerson. “It was something at the back our minds we thought would happen, but not at this time of year.”
Like other remote settlements along the border, Emerson has experienced an upswing of refugee claimants since Donald Trump was elected president.
Seeking to avoid Trump’s immigration crackdown, a growing number of people have braved freezing temperatures and deep snow to reach Canada.
According to figures, 477 people have been intercepted by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in Manitoba since the new year. But the phenomenon extends across the country: in British Columbia, 233 have been picked up by police and 1,933 in Québec.
Janzen blaimed Otuteye’s death on the Safe Third Country Agreement, which prohibits most people who have already sought asylum in the US from making a refugee claim in Canada.
Critics of the deal say that it forces people who want to seek asylum in Canada to cross the border illegally – usually under the cover of darkness – to increase the likelihood that their claims are processed and approved.
“If we can amend or close this loophole and allow them through these border crossings, we don’t have to have these people coming in at the middle of the night arriving in Emerson,” said Janzen.
Diverting these people to a safe port entry “would ease the situation in the town and make life go back to normal”, he said.
Otuteye is the first presumed asylum seeker known to have died making the journey, but the risks such border crossers faced were underlined by the case of Seidu Mohammed, who lost all his fingers to frostbite during a similar trek to Emerson late last year.
Earlier this month, the Immigration and Refugee Board gave Mohammed the right to stay in the country, reasoning that his return to Ghana would be too dangerous because he is bisexual.
Janzen said that the issue isn’t getting any better in Emerson because Canada’s federal government has failed to take action. Despite warmer spring weather, local authorities have been obliged to call for medical help for at least three migrants in the past three weeks.
“I don’t know what more we can do as a community,” he said. “No matter how many interviews we do and how hard we try to get the point across … the government is not paying attention to this. How many more lives do we have to lose before something changes?”
So what does covfefe means? I think he did write it on purpose,like if it would be a keyboard slip it would be something like covferafe or something,covfefe just makes no sense as a spelling mistake.
trump did challenge people to find the meaning,its kinda interesting. Maybe the person who tweets the right answer gets invite to meet the president in the whitehouse or something,ha ha. Maybe he just wants keep everyone guessing and its just a sort of troll,and maybe he just made a mistake. It is such a mystery.
On June 01 2017 07:19 pmh wrote: So what does covfefe means? I think he did write it on purpose,like if it would be a keyboard slip it would be something like covferafe or something,covfefe just makes no sense as a spelling mistake.
trump did challenge people to find the meaning,its kinda interesting. Maybe the person who tweets the right answer gets invite to meet the president in the whitehouse or something,ha ha. Maybe he just wants keep everyone guessing and its just a sort of troll,and maybe he just made a mistake. It is such a mystery.
I think the consensus is that it was supposed to be "coverage" and something happened which resulted in the unfinished tweet being sent out, since even with coverage the tweet is a pretty incomplete thought.
On June 01 2017 07:19 pmh wrote: So what does covfefe means? I think he did write it on purpose,like if it would be a keyboard slip it would be something like covferafe or something,covfefe just makes no sense as a spelling mistake.
trump did challenge people to find the meaning,its kinda interesting. Maybe the person who tweets the right answer gets invite to meet the president in the whitehouse or something,ha ha. Maybe he just wants keep everyone guessing and its just a sort of troll,and maybe he just made a mistake. It is such a mystery.
I honestly don't think we'll ever know what really happened. No explanation makes sense other than 7D chess. Sure, he dropped his phone or whatever. But that wouldn't make it post the tweet. I have no idea.
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