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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 31 2017 22:42 GMT
#153981
An impatient President Trump is putting new pressure on Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to get rid of the filibuster in order to speed progress on legislation repealing ObamaCare and reforming the tax code.

In a message posted Tuesday on Twitter, Trump urged Republican senators to invoke the so-called nuclear option and “switch to 51 votes, immediately, and get Healthcare and TAX CUTS approved, fast and easy.”

Trump also suggested his party wasn’t as cutthroat as Democrats when it comes to passing legislation, writing, “Dems would do it, no doubt!”

It’s just Trump’s latest attempt to press McConnell to eliminate the power to filibuster legislation, something Republican lawmakers firmly rejected when the president floated the idea only a few weeks ago.

That he used Twitter to do so was no surprise — but may have irritated McConnell, who has urged the president to rethink his use of social media.
Tuesday’s tweet indicates the president’s patience on his legislative agenda is waning.

McConnell has downplayed expectations, repeatedly refusing to put a timeline on the ObamaCare fight even as Trump and Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) have raised pressure.

McConnell also has raised doubts over whether there is even a path to passing a bill, telling Reuters, “I don’t know how we get to 50 [votes] at the moment.”

He did warn earlier this month that “we can’t take forever.”

Other Senate Republicans have suggested an informal goal of holding a healthcare vote before the August recess, just days before Trump’s 200th day in office.

GOP leaders hope to have the first draft completed by the time lawmakers return to Washington next week from the Memorial Day recess.

On tax reform, McConnell has sounded more optimistic, saying prospects are “pretty good.”

The tacit message to colleagues: Don’t let an interminable debate over healthcare derail tax reform.

Yet Senate Republicans can’t even get to tax reform until they conclude work on ObamaCare.

The GOP is using special budgetary rules to pass both measures with just 51 votes. But it can’t complete tax reform until it finishes work on healthcare, because the tax reform bill is subject to a 2018 budget that assumes savings on ObamaCare legislation passed for the 2017 fiscal year.

Once senators pass a new budget resolution to create a special reconciliation vehicle for tax reform, they will no longer be able to use the one they now plan to use to repeal and replace ObamaCare.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1402 Posts
May 31 2017 22:49 GMT
#153982
https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/cnn-fires-kathy-griffin-controversial-anti-trump-photo-shoot-192941814.html

Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15736 Posts
May 31 2017 22:50 GMT
#153983
On June 01 2017 07:49 pmh wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/cnn-fires-kathy-griffin-controversial-anti-trump-photo-shoot-192941814.html



Thank god. This was downright embarrassing. Happy to see her being utterly shunned.
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-31 22:56:17
May 31 2017 22:50 GMT
#153984
On June 01 2017 07:49 pmh wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/cnn-fires-kathy-griffin-controversial-anti-trump-photo-shoot-192941814.html



You don't get much more anti-trump than pretending you're a member of ISIS holding his severed head in your hands.

Like really, what was even her goal with that?
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23635 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-31 22:56:33
May 31 2017 22:53 GMT
#153985
You know the DNC is total shit when even Hillary Clinton says it was/is worthless.

Former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton said Wednesday the Democratic National Committee gave her “nothing” after she clinched the nomination.

“I set up my campaign and we have our own data operation. I get the nomination. So I’m now the nominee from the Democratic Party. I inherit nothing from the Democratic Party. I mean, it was bankrupt,” she said at the Code Conference in California.

“I had to inject money into it to keep it going.”
Source


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"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35167 Posts
May 31 2017 22:53 GMT
#153986
On June 01 2017 07:50 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2017 07:49 pmh wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/cnn-fires-kathy-griffin-controversial-anti-trump-photo-shoot-192941814.html



You don't get much more anti-trump then pretending you're a member of ISIS holding his severed head in your hands.

Like really, what was even her goal with that?

"I'm trying to be relevant again!"
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-31 23:07:54
May 31 2017 22:55 GMT
#153987
^ Pretty much as well as once again failing to be funny.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 31 2017 23:09 GMT
#153988
The saddest part is that her little stunt ate up a news cycle when LeBron James house was vandalized with racist slurs and someone hung a noose outside the black history museum.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19505341/police-looking-racial-slur-sprayed-front-gate-lebron-james-home-los-angeles

https://www.buzzfeed.com/remysmidt/noose-outside-museum?utm_term=.jqkylLvv1#.iqYZJ177n
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
May 31 2017 23:35 GMT
#153989
On June 01 2017 07:53 GreenHorizons wrote:
You know the DNC is total shit when even Hillary Clinton says it was/is worthless.

Show nested quote +
Former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton said Wednesday the Democratic National Committee gave her “nothing” after she clinched the nomination.

“I set up my campaign and we have our own data operation. I get the nomination. So I’m now the nominee from the Democratic Party. I inherit nothing from the Democratic Party. I mean, it was bankrupt,” she said at the Code Conference in California.

“I had to inject money into it to keep it going.”
Source


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ded party

Well now I'm starting to almost feel sympathy for ded party. They gave her the nomination and suffered getting Russiaroll'd and she still throws them under the bus.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-31 23:46:56
May 31 2017 23:46 GMT
#153990
This further evidence the narrative from the The War Room was right and everyone involved in an election has no idea what they are doing.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-31 23:47:23
May 31 2017 23:46 GMT
#153991
That's Clinton in a nutshell. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if her new progressive fundraising group was just to funnel money for her next campaign for Mayor, or God forbid POTUS.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 31 2017 23:52 GMT
#153992


Ohio is officially off my shit list for being the first one to pull the trigger on this. About fucking time drugs companies got some bad press raking in pain killer profits and not ever wondering, "maybe this is terrible".
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 31 2017 23:53 GMT
#153993
On June 01 2017 07:53 GreenHorizons wrote:
You know the DNC is total shit when even Hillary Clinton says it was/is worthless.

Show nested quote +
Former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton said Wednesday the Democratic National Committee gave her “nothing” after she clinched the nomination.

“I set up my campaign and we have our own data operation. I get the nomination. So I’m now the nominee from the Democratic Party. I inherit nothing from the Democratic Party. I mean, it was bankrupt,” she said at the Code Conference in California.

“I had to inject money into it to keep it going.”
Source


+ Show Spoiler +
ded party


If she's right that doesn't help the argument that the DNC's favoritism of Hillary was consequential.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
May 31 2017 23:57 GMT
#153994
Far as how covfefe may have happened, sometimes iPhones are retarded and ignore a random 90% of what you type, leaving nonsense in its wake. Trump probably isn't the type to proofread.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 31 2017 23:57 GMT
#153995
On June 01 2017 07:42 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
An impatient President Trump is putting new pressure on Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to get rid of the filibuster in order to speed progress on legislation repealing ObamaCare and reforming the tax code.

In a message posted Tuesday on Twitter, Trump urged Republican senators to invoke the so-called nuclear option and “switch to 51 votes, immediately, and get Healthcare and TAX CUTS approved, fast and easy.”

Trump also suggested his party wasn’t as cutthroat as Democrats when it comes to passing legislation, writing, “Dems would do it, no doubt!”

It’s just Trump’s latest attempt to press McConnell to eliminate the power to filibuster legislation, something Republican lawmakers firmly rejected when the president floated the idea only a few weeks ago.

That he used Twitter to do so was no surprise — but may have irritated McConnell, who has urged the president to rethink his use of social media.
Tuesday’s tweet indicates the president’s patience on his legislative agenda is waning.

McConnell has downplayed expectations, repeatedly refusing to put a timeline on the ObamaCare fight even as Trump and Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) have raised pressure.

McConnell also has raised doubts over whether there is even a path to passing a bill, telling Reuters, “I don’t know how we get to 50 [votes] at the moment.”

He did warn earlier this month that “we can’t take forever.”

Other Senate Republicans have suggested an informal goal of holding a healthcare vote before the August recess, just days before Trump’s 200th day in office.

GOP leaders hope to have the first draft completed by the time lawmakers return to Washington next week from the Memorial Day recess.

On tax reform, McConnell has sounded more optimistic, saying prospects are “pretty good.”

The tacit message to colleagues: Don’t let an interminable debate over healthcare derail tax reform.

Yet Senate Republicans can’t even get to tax reform until they conclude work on ObamaCare.

The GOP is using special budgetary rules to pass both measures with just 51 votes. But it can’t complete tax reform until it finishes work on healthcare, because the tax reform bill is subject to a 2018 budget that assumes savings on ObamaCare legislation passed for the 2017 fiscal year.

Once senators pass a new budget resolution to create a special reconciliation vehicle for tax reform, they will no longer be able to use the one they now plan to use to repeal and replace ObamaCare.


Source


One wonders if Trump is actually unaware that healthcare and tax reform are already being pursued with 51 vote strategies. This is why, in a way, Democrats should hope that Trump does complete his first term.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43565 Posts
May 31 2017 23:58 GMT
#153996
On June 01 2017 08:57 LegalLord wrote:
Far as how covfefe may have happened, sometimes iPhones are retarded and ignore a random 90% of what you type, leaving nonsense in its wake. Trump probably isn't the type to proofread.

And what happened to the rest of the tweet?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
May 31 2017 23:58 GMT
#153997
On June 01 2017 08:52 Plansix wrote:
https://twitter.com/NPR/status/870054785927454720

Ohio is officially off my shit list for being the first one to pull the trigger on this. About fucking time drugs companies got some bad press raking in pain killer profits and not ever wondering, "maybe this is terrible".

It's even more impressive when you consider how many pharmaceuticals have their HQ in Ohio. Would've been the last state I would've guessed to start this, but the opioid epidemic is extremely bad there.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
June 01 2017 00:00 GMT
#153998
On June 01 2017 08:58 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2017 08:57 LegalLord wrote:
Far as how covfefe may have happened, sometimes iPhones are retarded and ignore a random 90% of what you type, leaving nonsense in its wake. Trump probably isn't the type to proofread.

And what happened to the rest of the tweet?

Lost among that 90%.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11413 Posts
June 01 2017 00:00 GMT
#153999
I think a little more punctuation makes the tweet a little more sensible.
Despite the constant negative press: covfefe!

We still don't know what covfeffe is and perhaps it's still not quite a complete thought but at least we know that through it all we still have covfefe and that is some consolation is it not?
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10137 Posts
June 01 2017 00:09 GMT
#154000
On June 01 2017 07:19 pmh wrote:
So what does covfefe means? I think he did write it on purpose,like if it would be a keyboard slip it would be something like covferafe or something,covfefe just makes no sense as a spelling mistake.

It's just Bush all over again. Except this time we got memes and plenty of places to highlight the latest POTUS screw up.
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