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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On April 21 2017 04:03 Mysticesper wrote: All the networks pick up contributors for random reasons, so it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility. It'd be totally worth it if he failed re-election or something. Resigning in the middle of his term is a different thing entirely. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 21 2017 04:03 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote: minor quibble. We have the ability to have no problem feeding people but due to realities and lack of support 1 in 6 Americans are food insecure. Meanwhile republicans want to cut after school programs that feed people and SNAP Agreed. I glossed over that part in an effort to keep the focus on why we export food. It is because we produce way more than we can consume. The fact that our wage structure is so garbage people still go without is another subject. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On April 21 2017 03:37 KwarK wrote: I often feel like Trump believes the United States doesn't export anything and that imports simply undermine the natural autarkic state of affairs. If your country produces X cheaper than another and the other country produces Y cheaper than your country then everyone benefits from trade. You shift workers from your Y industry to your X industry, they do the inverse, everyone gets X and Y and everyone pays less. Trump looks at this purely from the perspective of an American producer of Y and demands that someone fix it. It's a really worrying level of ignorance from a political leader. To the point that we should probably see if Xi Jinping can spare a few minutes to explain basic economics to him. I think in particular he doesnt realize a trade deficit isnt the result of poor trade deals/being outcompeted. re: food. I've never really got how people are food insecure with how many different support programs the US has. I'd have thought there's enough of them that they should be able to manage fine. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22079 Posts
On April 21 2017 04:10 Nevuk wrote: It'd be totally worth it if he failed re-election or something. Resigning in the middle of his term is a different thing entirely. I want to think he no longer wants to put up with Trump and jumped ship to be rid of the responsibility. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On April 21 2017 04:11 Gorsameth wrote: I want to think he no longer wants to put up with Trump and jumped ship to be rid of the responsibility. What good is it to create a Randian style nightmare market if you can’t get a sick pay out before the backlash? | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
The first signs came just after 7 p.m. on Election Night, a trickle of tepid polling returns out of Virginia. From there, things went sideways in a hurry. Huge Republican turnout across rural Florida prompted a top Democratic Florida sage to phone Hillary Clinton's advisers before 8 p.m. to inform them that she had lost the Sunshine State. Within a few hours, the coronation was off, Clinton was prodded by Barack Obama into making an unthinkable concession call, and a campaign convinced it was on the brink of electing the first female president was left puzzling over how it had all gone awry. This is the question at the heart of Shattered, a new autopsy of the campaign by authors Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes. Told largely through background interviews with campaign staff and a tangle of Clinton insiders, the book is a comprehensive chronicle of how her quest for the White House lurched and sputtered toward ignominious defeat. Source An interesting look into an electable failure, from the inside. Quite a few problems that ultimately turned out to come together to form a loss. Constructed from interviews of her campaign staff. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Just wait till she starts living her life through her daughter. Fuck me. also: | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On April 21 2017 03:25 ticklishmusic wrote: chaffetz resignation seems like it could potentially be the first domino in a chain, doesn't seem like it could be an isolated incident. The sudden nature says incident, but I can't imagine any that set off a chain and are also plausible. Sexual misconduct, financial corruption, whatever, but every other one I see point to him calmly saying he's not seeking reelection months from now after briefing aides and donors. WaPo was theorizing ambition for gov position in a pretty slanted story. We'll know more later if he really does set up in the private sector somewhere. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
A recent CBS News poll shows support for legalizing marijuana is higher than ever. Sixty-one percent of Americans think marijuana use should be legal, a five-point increase from last year and the highest percentage ever recorded in this poll. Eighty-eight percent favor medical marijuana use. Seventy-one percent oppose the federal government’s efforts to stop marijuana sales and its use in states that have legalized it, including opposition from most Republicans, Democrats, and independents. Sixty-five percent think marijuana is less dangerous than most other drugs. And only 23 percent think legalizing marijuana leads to an increase violent crime. More generally on the topic of drug abuse, 69 percent think that should be treated as an addiction and mental health problem rather than a criminal offense. The belief that pot should be legal has reached a new high in CBS News polls. Sixty-one percent of Americans now say the it should be, a five-point increase from a year ago. This sentiment has increased each year we’ve measured it since 2013, with the turning point to majority support coming in 2014. Back in 1979, this poll found just 27 percent saying it should be legal. Those over 65 are the most opposed to legalization, but most under age 65 support it. And women are now as much in favor of legal marijuana as men are; in previous years they were less so. Many states have legalized pot in some form, and most Americans don’t think the federal government should try to stop its sale and use in those states. Even among those who think marijuana should be illegal, only half think the federal government should get involved with the states. This sentiment cuts across party lines: Majorities of Republicans (63 percent), Democrats (76 percent), and independents (72 percent) oppose the federal government trying to stop marijuana use in these states. Source | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
I liked this one for the "we're gonna win, we gonna keep on winning, nonstop victory incoming" vibe. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23619 Posts
Sixty-five percent think marijuana is less dangerous than most other drugs. The hell? Propaganda and stubborn ignorance are too stronk. Tylenol consumption literally kills infinitely more people than cannabis consumption. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On April 21 2017 05:04 GreenHorizons wrote: The hell? Propaganda and stubborn ignorance are too stronk. Tylenol consumption literally kills infinitely more people than cannabis consumption. while I agree with your sentiment in general; a drug can not be subject to overdose deaths while still being harmful, so comparing solely on direct death basis is a bit inapt. otherwise I fully agree with your sentiment. /pedant | ||
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Mysticesper
United States1183 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23619 Posts
On April 21 2017 05:06 zlefin wrote: while I agree with your sentiment in general; a drug can not be subject to overdose deaths while still being harmful, so comparing solely on direct death basis is a bit inapt. otherwise I fully agree with your sentiment. /pedant With all due respect, no shit. The point being that it's obviously absurd to think cannabis is more/as dangerous as most other drugs. | ||
KwarK
United States43544 Posts
That can be desirable in some cases. The EU is built to exploit this by making Western Europe interdependent to make war impossible. And it dramatically increases economic output due to efficiency gains. But it also creates vulnerability, dependency and long term damage to the nation's ability to regain those industries. Canada and the US being entwined beyond the ability to go to war is probably fine. Likewise the US isn't likely to ever be dependent upon food imports in war. But other industry subsidies can make sense for retaining strategic capabilities. Profitability is a very poor measure of the value provided by a specific business but it is the primary one used in making these decisions. Just as irrational economic decisions can result from ignoring negative externalities, so can they also result by ignoring positive ones. As always the difficult question is when should the government intervene to correct the market. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23619 Posts
On April 21 2017 05:09 Mysticesper wrote: Yeah, I was about to say, you have deaths indirectly caused by _______ (driving under the influence being the prime example) You know, not so sure about that either. However, a large case-control study conducted by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration found no significant increased crash risk attributable to cannabis after controlling for drivers’ age, gender, race, and presence of alcohol. www.drugabuse.gov | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15736 Posts
On April 21 2017 03:16 GreenHorizons wrote: Everyone get stoned and decide Sub Sex was the topic of the day? made me laugh out lout at work | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On April 21 2017 05:15 GreenHorizons wrote: You know, not so sure about that either. www.drugabuse.gov dude, u cite that part but ignore the part that said it does increase risk. no need to selectively quote like that, not cool. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23619 Posts
On April 21 2017 05:20 zlefin wrote: dude, u cite that part but ignore the part that said it does increase risk. no need to selectively quote like that, not cool. Omg, cry harder bro. The source is there for people to read it themselves. Other bullshit meta studies said one thing, a case-control study conducted by NHTSA showed another. Again missing the point. I can't with you. It's so pointless. | ||
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