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ShoCkeyy
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
Interesting play. Maybe trying to get Paul on board a comprehensive repeal and replace, or at least get some unity going into Draft 2. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On March 08 2017 10:58 ShoCkeyy wrote: As a constituent of Rubio, he's been a terrible senator for quite some time. How did you Florida people reelect him? | ||
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Introvert
United States4773 Posts
On March 08 2017 11:02 Danglars wrote: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/839268048313929729 Interesting play. Maybe trying to get Paul on board a comprehensive repeal and replace, or at least get some unity going into Draft 2. + Show Spoiler + Rand Paul and Mike Lee are newly reelected. They can (and should) tell him to stuff it. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
Gerrymandering, and old people voted for him... | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
On March 08 2017 11:06 ShoCkeyy wrote: Gerrymandering, and old people voted for him... doesn't gerrymandering only effect house races? also probably a lot to do with the anti Cuba Latino population. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On March 08 2017 06:33 zlefin wrote: the choice is more about whether to have insurance than to have healthcare. whether to choose to take a risk or not. there are those who oppose mandatory seatbelt laws on similar principles. There is a streak of extreme choiceness found throughout america, that does have some followers. ideologies and beliefs are often not particularly rational or well-founded. Most of course have some basis. The thing is the distinction between insurance and care in this case happens to be in name only. Healthcare needs are so pervasive and affect nearly everybody that denying insurance is basically just denying the social contract of covering each others healthcare costs. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
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On March 08 2017 11:09 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote: doesn't gerrymandering only effect house races? also probably a lot to do with the anti Cuba Latino population. Yea I was kidding about gerrymandering, I wasn't about the old people. | ||
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Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
On March 08 2017 11:18 ShoCkeyy wrote: Yea I was kidding about gerrymandering, I wasn't about the old people. Personally I see him as still better than say the Maine governor or the Florida gov. Dems need to learn how to run good elections again. They can't just do a Louisiana wait untill the current leadership runs it into the ground approach. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On March 08 2017 11:12 Nyxisto wrote: The thing is the distinction between insurance and care in this case happens to be in name only. Healthcare needs are so pervasive and affect nearly everybody that denying insurance is basically just denying the social contract of covering each others healthcare costs. it's still a rather notable distinction. I wouldn't call it in name only. it's a rather huge technical distinction. it's not likie insurance is a logical necessity for purchasing healthcare. and many do deny the social contract of covering each others healthcare costs. and/or favor market approaches. I know it's dumb, but it's how it is. if they didn't we'd just have universal payer. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On March 08 2017 11:05 Introvert wrote: Rand Paul and Mike Lee are newly reelected. They can (and should) tell him to stuff it. So why'd he do it? I'm even willing to accept this is reverse psychology support-plan-to-oppose, all the way to Trump overestimating his charm. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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Dan HH
Romania9122 Posts
On March 08 2017 11:00 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Guys you are all confused. It must be a good bill because if you print it it's a smaller stack of paper. Look at the size! https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/839207037003313153 What does "this is government, this is not" even mean in that context? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 08 2017 11:34 Dan HH wrote: h What does "this is government, this is not" even mean in that context? I was told to say this. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On March 08 2017 11:27 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/839297010285043712 Is this a joke? Do they really think this? There is near zero chance that a single Democrat votes for any Republican Healthcare Bill, let alone this abomination. Plus this should be easy political points for Dems. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On March 08 2017 11:34 Dan HH wrote: What does "this is government, this is not" even mean in that context? the real reason is that Trump had really big trouble holding that large stack of paper. This is just a ruse. On March 08 2017 11:25 zlefin wrote: it's still a rather notable distinction. I wouldn't call it in name only. it's a rather huge technical distinction. it's not likie insurance is a logical necessity for purchasing healthcare. and many do deny the social contract of covering each others healthcare costs. and/or favor market approaches. I know it's dumb, but it's how it is. if they didn't we'd just have universal payer. if you look at the accumulated risk of suffering form a serious disease, especially given our live expectancies, the question is rather when you get sick and not if, and nothing is more expensive than sick people who cannot work. This is really a systemic issue, like clean public water or electricity. It's not a gamble between individuals. | ||
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