US Politics Mega-thread - Page 7074

On March 08 2017 06:39 ticklishmusic wrote:


Actually, I'm surprised the GOP didn't pull a Bevin. He just shut down Kynect and forced people to go to healthcare.gov instead and declared victory over Obamacare... even though all he did was make people go to a different URL to find exchange coverage.

On March 08 2017 07:11 LegalLord wrote:

Well the results are pretty damning..,

On_Slaught, which choice did you want?

On March 08 2017 06:08 Plansix wrote:
I shovel this all back on congress being totally unwilling to regulate anything or give a shit.. These “smart” and everything else are consumer protection nightmares. And the tech industry gives literally zero shits and has not been forced to care at all. The BBC was doing a story about child pornography being shared on Facebook. They brought it to Facebook’s attention and Facebook reported the BBC for distributing child pornography. Uber is a living dumpster fire that has somehow managed to convince themselves that they drivers are their own businesses, but can't set their own prices or pick their passengers.

Like I can’t even.

On March 08 2017 07:21 warding wrote:

You're reacting to a story on the government spying on people through smart devices by arguing that the government should regulate smart devices - presumably to protect against government hacking.

Other problems on government regulating on new technology:
- legislation takes time, technology moves fast;
- legislators are prone to lobbying, larger firms push for legislation that favors them;
- regulations are a tax - thus favor incumbents vs new entrants;
- legislators are lawyers, do not understand technology;
- we don't even yet know what the winning standards for IoT will be. Legislation passed now is likely to become obsolete fast;
- legislation is often poorly thought out, creates negative unintended consequences;
- regulation slows down innovation;
- regulations cost money to monitor and enforce;
- companies already have the incentive to protect customers from security/privacy breaches and the spread of child pornography. Not sure how extra regulation would change the already existing incentives.

On March 08 2017 07:28 ShoCkeyy wrote:
https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/839207060667498496

My favorite one.

On March 08 2017 07:55 GreenHorizons wrote:


So Trumpcare is basically DOA, it will be Tea Party types that stop it, then Democrats will celebrate "their" win and move on from healthcare. Well played insurance companies, well played.

On March 08 2017 07:10 Nevuk wrote:

Actually, it's a bit more ridiculous than that even. A lot of the benefits sites still use Kynect, they just redirect to it after the initial different URL.

I feel like that's the best that the GOP could do and still claim victories, but I think the insurance companies want the ACA fixed, not just renamed.

On March 08 2017 07:59 Gorsameth wrote:

The democrats will move on because there is nothing they can do when they have no power.

The ACA staying is a best case scenario for the next 4 years because there is no way the Republicans will come forward with something better.

It won't get better until the Democrats get a President + super majority.

On March 08 2017 08:05 GreenHorizons wrote:


That's why they are supposed to run on medicare for all, like Republicans ran on repealing Obamacare (except actually develop a plan). Fuck congressional Republicans, the house can get replaced every 2 years, let their constituents choose between Obamacare and Medicare for all, medicare for all wins in the polls hands down (it especially does a LOT better than Obamacare with Republicans).

Instead it looks like they are going full "RUSSIA!?!" and "Not Trump", which won't win them anything in 2018.

On March 08 2017 08:09 Gorsameth wrote:

Winning the house does nothing when no Democratic healthcare bill will make it through the Senate or the Presidency.

And you will have to work very hard to convince me that they could even win the House on a 'medicare for all' campaign, let alone the super majority they need to break the inevitable filibuster.

On March 08 2017 07:35 Plansix wrote:

The government needs a FISA warrant(or some due process) to spy on me and I don’t have a smart TV, so I’m pretty all set. I also do not give a fuck if someone can’t get VC investment because the government is regulating consumer products so random hackers can’t spy on people who just want to buy a TV. I don’t give a shit about anyone getting rich off of some dumb tech product like a smart trashcan or condom. And I could list an endless nubmer of things the tech industry does not understand, including ethics, liability and why long term planning is good.

And regulation is supposed to slow shit down and make people think about the long term prospects of what they are doing. Which is the opposite of the tech industry right now.