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On February 02 2017 23:38 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So when does the GOP start to realize that everything this man does will affect them as well.

On February 02 2017 23:47 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Anyone in this thread think the President should be threatening to withdraw federal funds from a University on twitter because despite being committed to holding an event for an individual they cancelled it for his safety (after legit violence occurred)?

On February 02 2017 23:47 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Anyone in this thread think the President should be threatening to withdraw federal funds from a University on twitter because despite being committed to holding an event for an individual they cancelled it for his safety (after legit violence occurred)?

Or did this already get discussed?

On February 02 2017 23:57 Liquid`Jinro wrote:

I feel like this is an instance where it might be more productive to try to form a dialogue about what's actually happening at campuses lately (I'm not gonna pretend I'm an expert, but I have read/listened to a decent bit of stuff about it lately and it's worrisome - though I obviously lack any kind of first hand perspective).

On February 02 2017 23:47 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Anyone in this thread think the President should be threatening to withdraw federal funds from a University on twitter because despite being committed to holding an event for an individual they cancelled it for his safety (after legit violence occurred)?

Or did this already get discussed?

The US military has launched an investigation into the scale of civilian casualties in a botched special forces raid against a suspected al-Qaida base in Yemen, the first such mission to be approved by Donald Trump, as questions mount over the operation.

After initially denying there had been any civilian casualties in Sunday’s raid, US Central Command (Centcom), which is responsible for military operations in the Middle East and central Asia, acknowledged some of the dead may have included women and children, though claimed some of the women were armed.

A statement said its assessment “seeks to determine if there were any still-undetected civilian casualties in the ferocious firefight.”

The Pentagon has said a US Navy Seal, chief petty officer William Owens, and 14 militants were killed in the raid in al Bayda province. Medics at the scene said about 30 people, including 10 women and children, were killed. Three US special forces were wounded.

The mission was approved over dinner five days after the presidential inauguration by Trump and his closest advisers, including his son-in-law Jared Kushner and his special adviser and former Breitbart executive Stephen Bannon, as well as defence secretary General Jim Mattis.

Both the New York Times and Reuters carried quotes from unnamed military officials that seemed to shift blame for the mission to Trump and his inner team. It would be an extraordinary development for a president, who is commander-in-chief, to be briefed against in such detail.

The briefings suggested that one thing after another went wrong from the start of the mission, with the Yemen villagers seemingly alerted to the impending raid by drones flying lower than usual.

The special forces, apparently lacking full intelligence, were confronted by heavily-fortified positions, including landmines, and faced heavy gunfire from buildings all around during the 50-minute firefight. One of the US planes sent in to help had to be left behind and was deliberately destroyed.

US military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations.

The mission had been prepared under the Obama administration but it had not been approved.

On February 03 2017 00:05 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:

can you elaborate on your definition of productive

what perspectives do you envision people seeing walking away here with that are +EV for humanity

On February 02 2017 23:47 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Anyone in this thread think the President should be threatening to withdraw federal funds from a University on twitter because despite being committed to holding an event for an individual they cancelled it for his safety (after legit violence occurred)?

Or did this already get discussed?

On February 03 2017 00:10 Liquid`Jinro wrote:

I really don't know, I just don't think that attacking Trump over this tweet makes sense. I guess some kind of acknowledgement from the left that this is a problem and what to do about it?

As I said, really don't know and I basically only know enough about the problem to get myself into trouble trying to comment about it haha...

On February 03 2017 00:13 Danglars wrote:

Anybody in this thread want to defend threatening to withdraw legit peaceful discourse from a University, despite being committed to holding an event for an individual?

On February 03 2017 00:06 xDaunt wrote:


I guarantee that Bannon had Trump tweet that out. Unlike most conservatives and republicans, Bannon understands how badly that the Right has lost the culture war over the past couple of generations. And no where is the defeat more evident than on American university campuses. The whole point of Milo's tour (which is Breitbart-inspired -- ie Bannon) is to begin to curb Leftist dominance at these institutions. Bannon wants to create a new counter-culture to facilitate that end, and he's going to use the Trump presidency accelerate it.