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Biff The Understudy
France7903 Posts
The truly amazing thing is that people with those concerns would be voting for a tacky billionaire with a megalmonaniac complex, no sense of decency and self centered to an absurd level to "take back the country from the rich". That and the fact that they see a guy who rage tweets compulsively at 3am and is as easy to manipulate as a 6th grader as a potential "strong leader".. | ||
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Introvert
United States4825 Posts
On November 09 2016 07:44 KwarK wrote: Presumably it can change the result, given the time difference across the US. If Florida is looking heavily like it went to Clinton then Republicans in California might not bother going to vote at all. That'd seem the most reasonable explanation for that kind of policy to me. Us Californians have SEVENTEEN ballot initiatives to vote on, it shouldn't change in a thing in state where your presidential vote doesn't matter. Nevada and Colorado? That might be different. But I can't see it mattering anywhere else. | ||
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Jormundr
United States1678 Posts
On November 09 2016 07:45 oneofthem wrote: obama has a lot of work to do with that 'trust in government' project. it's absolutely hilarious how the far left don't dare to bash obama even on his signature issues, but readily indulge in character assassination vs HRC even using issues where she is nominally on her side. can't win You have a HRC victim complex the size of DJ Trump's NPD. For my conservative homies: You don't have to worry about The Apprentice being cancelled. The Don will be back on NBC next year for The Biggest Loser. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 09 2016 07:44 KwarK wrote: Presumably it can change the result, given the time difference across the US. If Florida is looking heavily like it went to Clinton then Republicans in California might not bother going to vote at all. That'd seem the most reasonable explanation for that kind of policy to me. You are 100% correct. But like a lot of US media, I don't know if there is any federal prohibition on doing it or if everyone just agreed not because they didn't want to deal with the regulation. There is a long history of media self regulating in the US and I'm not sure if this is one of those cases. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.270towin.com/presidential_map_new/maps/NVDZW.png) | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On November 09 2016 07:45 Adreme wrote: Depending on how the initial turnout numbers look we might even have a pretty good idea before 8PM. If the numbers look like the polls she wins, if she is beating the polls she wins, if he is beating the polls then it might be close. Oh yeah I'm not talking rough ideas. We could start making assumptions much earlier. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On November 09 2016 07:47 Jormundr wrote: You have a HRC victim complex the size of DJ Trump's NPD. it is true though. leftists understand that obama is too popular to win, so they tackle the issues. hillary? can get trashed. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On November 09 2016 07:40 xDaunt wrote: Americans who had cast their votes for the next president early on Tuesday appeared to be worried about the direction of the country, and were looking for a "strong leader who can take the country back from the rich and powerful," according to an early reading from the Reuters/Ipsos national Election Day poll. The poll of more than 10,000 people who have already cast their ballots in the presidential election showed a majority of voters are worried about their ability to get ahead and have little confidence in political parties or the media to improve their situation. A majority also feel that the economy is rigged to mostly help the wealthy. The poll, which will be updated as additional responses are tallied and votes are counted throughout Tuesday, found: - 72 percent agree "the American economy is rigged to advantage the rich and powerful." Too bad the vast majority of them had just voted for people who will never, ever change that. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On November 09 2016 07:50 oneofthem wrote: it is true though. leftists understand that obama is too popular to win, so they tackle the issues. hillary? can get trashed. It's probably best understood via the lens that there's more social stigma attached to being a racist than there is to being a sexist. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
As we wait, I provide for everyone's amusement the collective confusion of 4chan's attempt to vote today. I think we can all come together and agree this is the top tier internet. God bless them all for trying. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7903 Posts
On November 09 2016 07:48 Plansix wrote: You are 100% correct. But like a lot of US media, I don't know if there is any federal prohibition on doing it or if everyone just agreed not because they didn't want to deal with the regulation. There is a long history of media self regulating in the US and I'm not sure if this is one of those cases. In France you don't have the right to talk in the media about any kind of poll the day of the election before the whole process is over. Of course it really doesn't function anymore now that anyone can just tweet estimated result instantly. Anyway gentlemen, i'm off to bed. Look foreward to discuss the result with you, especially if that charade ends up with Trump getting off the newsoaper front page for ever. I've seen more than enough of that clown. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On November 09 2016 07:51 Nevuk wrote: It's probably best understood via the lens that there's more social stigma attached to being a racist than there is to being a sexist. It's probably best understood via the lens that Obama is the better candidate and while we have issues with him, overall he appears to be better as a president than we believe Hillary will be. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On November 09 2016 07:51 Nevuk wrote: It's probably best understood via the lens that there's more social stigma attached to being a racist than there is to being a sexist. i don't think it's sexism mostly. it's rather a very strident form of class conflict. HRC willingness to mingle with the financial elites is well demonstrated, obama's is yet to come. oh and extreme anti-military and anti-state people. cant' forget that one. even so, obama's drone wars has largely become hillary's drone wars, even though she was mostly pushing for more oversight | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On November 09 2016 07:53 Plansix wrote: http://gizmodo.com/trumps-troll-army-is-having-a-hard-time-voting-1788712609 As we wait, I provide for everyone's amusement the collective confusion of 4chan's attempt to vote today. I think we can all come together and agree this is the top tier internet. God bless them all for trying. Blog site gets trolled by low effort bait on /pol/ More news at eleven. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On November 09 2016 07:54 LegalLord wrote: It's probably best understood via the lens that Obama is the better candidate and while we have issues with him, overall he appears to be better as a president than we believe Hillary will be. In 2008? The rhetoric was clearly more extreme from one side than the other at the time. Now that's certainly the case, but a lot of the anti-Clinton arguments from the left have their roots in the 2008 primaries still. The Bernie bros etc. were pretty much made up or vastly over-inflated in the press, though. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
On November 09 2016 07:50 oneofthem wrote: it is true though. leftists understand that obama is too popular to win, so they tackle the issues. hillary? can get trashed. not sure what qualifies as "far left" for you, but people who support obama certainly are not part of it. | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On November 09 2016 08:00 Doodsmack wrote: I cannot wait to see Trump's reaction to his loss. He's already tweeting about rigged polling machines though. I still just want to sense the rage coming from that dirtbag of man. He's not going to accept the result if he loses, I can tell you that right now. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On November 09 2016 07:58 Nevuk wrote: In 2008? The rhetoric was clearly more extreme from one side than the other at the time. Now that's certainly the case, but a lot of the anti-Clinton arguments from the left have their roots in the 2008 primaries still. The Bernie bros etc. were pretty much made up or vastly over-inflated in the press, though. Could be the (justified) perception of dishonesty, the FBI investigations, the warhawking, the perceived collusion with the DNC to win the primaries, or the history of flip-flopping. Or it could just be that racism is worse than sexism. Your call. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On November 09 2016 08:00 Doodsmack wrote: I cannot wait to see Trump's reaction to his loss. He's already tweeting about rigged polling machines though. I still just want to sense the rage coming from that dirtbag of man. Yeah, well that's what we thought in Austria too. Until the courts told us to go vote again. Does your country have a history challenging elections? If not, you may wonder what's possible if someone actually just tries. | ||
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