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KwarK
United States43737 Posts
On November 09 2016 02:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Which is perfectly legal... I don't get how he thinks he's the good guy in this situation. He's alleging that they let too many citizens vote and that some of those citizen's votes should be discounted. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On November 09 2016 02:53 Dan HH wrote: I don't see this having anything to do with the candidates. And it was a rhetorical question, the disrespect you see is not towards Susan B. Anthony but towards your (or rather our) unquestioning reverence of death/burial. Graves are not some untouchable holy artifacts, there's no rational reason to be upset about this, I assume they're gonna take the stickers off afterwards and all you're left with is nothing but the fact that a bunch of people paid respect to her. I'm not upset. All I said was I found it disrespectful. The disrespect has nothing to do with a religious reverence for burial or gravesites If you don't think so then it doesn't matter. The only person around who could be disrespected by it isn't so in any case it's a moot point | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 09 2016 02:56 KwarK wrote: I don't get how he thinks he's the good guy in this situation. He's alleging that they let too many citizens vote and that some of those citizen's votes should be discounted. You have to be delusional and assume that everyone is against you and you would win all the time if people didn't' cheat you out of victory. Edit: GGT - you might want to use the word "uncomfortable". Disrespectful is a pretty strong term and is commonly associated with being upset and offended. It doesn't accurately describe your feelings on the matter. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On November 09 2016 02:54 Plansix wrote: That is going to get dismissed for zero grounds. He could have filed that tomorrow, but that wouldn’t be Trump. He has to be fucking brain dead. Nevada should keep the polls open to midnight out of spite, even if no one is voting at that point. maybe he has $$$ left on the monthly legal retainer? | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On November 09 2016 02:54 Plansix wrote: That is going to get dismissed for zero grounds. He could have filed that tomorrow, but that wouldn’t be Trump. He has to be fucking brain dead. Nevada should keep the polls open to midnight out of spite, even if no one is voting at that point. I want to sleep knowing who won, thank you very much. | ||
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KwarK
United States43737 Posts
They could be wrong of course and like any other prediction, it's not an exact rule, if the markets placed Hillary's odds at 70% and they think it should be closer to 75% we'd see this outcome and it still wouldn't mean Trump couldn't win 25% of the time. But it does mean that the Wall Street consensus right now is that she's outperforming her odds. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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Trainrunnef
United States601 Posts
On November 09 2016 02:57 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I'm not upset. All I said was I found it disrespectful. The disrespect has nothing to do with a religious reverence for burial or gravesites If you don't think so then it doesn't matter. The only person around who could be disrespected by it isn't so in any case it's a moot point Let it go man. You dont like the stickers, we get it. you dont need to get the last word. The fact that you think stickers are less respectful than flowers is totally subjective and irrespective of the context behind the self important stickers. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On November 09 2016 03:04 KwarK wrote: Obviously it's not an exact science but the markets are swinging upwards pretty strongly, and did yesterday too. That's a pretty strong indicator that the financial markets predict a Clinton win, and they work pretty hard to find out as much information as possible as early as possible because information = money, the better informed you are the bigger your edge. They could be wrong of course and like any other prediction, it's not an exact rule, if the markets placed Hillary's odds at 70% and they think it should be closer to 75% we'd see this outcome and it still wouldn't mean Trump couldn't win 25% of the time. But it does mean that the Wall Street consensus right now is that she's outperforming her odds. The markets don't know for sure and that is basically just a way of saying "people who work on this think this is what will happen." It serves as a decent sanity check - in that if your results are way out of line with betting odds then you better have a damn good reason to think that they are wrong - but it's no proof. The markets did severely underestimate Brexit relative to the polls, I might mention. That will be the favorite example of everyone this year but it's perfectly valid. Though betting odds is an interesting topic of the philosophical discussion of "fair odds" determination of probabilities. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15742 Posts
On November 09 2016 03:04 KwarK wrote: Obviously it's not an exact science but the markets are swinging upwards pretty strongly, and did yesterday too. That's a pretty strong indicator that the financial markets predict a Clinton win, and they work pretty hard to find out as much information as possible as early as possible because information = money, the better informed you are the bigger your edge. They could be wrong of course and like any other prediction, it's not an exact rule, if the markets placed Hillary's odds at 70% and they think it should be closer to 75% we'd see this outcome and it still wouldn't mean Trump couldn't win 25% of the time. But it does mean that the Wall Street consensus right now is that she's outperforming her odds. My friend works in computational finance stuff. I don't know exactly what they do, but they trade stuff. When there is uncertainty or volatility in the world, they make a ton of money. He was saying that if Trump wins tonight, he won't be sleeping. He'll basically be working continuously throughout the entire night until who knows when. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22149 Posts
On November 09 2016 02:59 LegalLord wrote: I want to sleep knowing who won, thank you very much. I doubt there will be an official answer today, Trump is not going to throw in the towel and congratulate Hillary when she hits 270, he's going to try and drag this as long as he can. Out of spite if nothing else. Possibly a few more law suits for recounts and fraud but that's not going to help him. It will actually have the reverse effect and keep the media talking about how Trump lost for longer. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On November 09 2016 03:11 Gorsameth wrote: I doubt there will be an official answer today, Trump is not going to throw in the towel and congratulate Hillary when she hits 270, he's going to try and drag this as long as he can. Out of spite if nothing else. Possibly a few more law suits for recounts and fraud but that's not going to help him. It will actually have the reverse effect and keep the media talking about how Trump lost for longer. The interesting side topic for all this is what it's going to do to Trumps wealth. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22149 Posts
On November 09 2016 03:09 TheTenthDoc wrote: The GOP really seems to have missed the memo on trying to hide their systematic voter disenfranchisement strategy this year. This lawsuit, the issues in NC...it's more naked than ever. Then again, I suppose that's kind of a theme in this election. Why do they need to try and hide it when there is no backlash for them doing it? Not like the people they are trying to suppress would have voted for them anyway. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On November 09 2016 03:11 Gorsameth wrote: I doubt there will be an official answer today, Trump is not going to throw in the towel and congratulate Hillary when she hits 270, he's going to try and drag this as long as he can. Out of spite if nothing else. Possibly a few more law suits for recounts and fraud but that's not going to help him. It will actually have the reverse effect and keep the media talking about how Trump lost for longer. Official answers always take a while. But a "judgment call" of who won is enough in most cases to call it a night unless the results really are fucked. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
This photo was taken this morning and says everything about Trump. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On November 09 2016 03:12 Probe1 wrote: The interesting side topic for all this is what it's going to do to Trumps wealth. High 9 or low 10 digit haircut I think. Evidently the only hotel in DC not sold out of the inauguration is the Trump one. I'll bet it goes out of business before 2020, then we can make jokes about how he couldn't make it 4 years on Pennsylvania Avenue. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22149 Posts
On November 09 2016 03:12 Probe1 wrote: The interesting side topic for all this is what it's going to do to Trumps wealth. Nothing? Depending on FEC filings he might get some fines for miss use of campaign funds but I doubt his hotels/resorts/golf courses are going to suffer from him losing. No one is probably going to want him in their upcoming tv shows tho but that money is peanuts anyway. | ||
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