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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
November 08 2016 19:16 GMT
#119661
Back from voting. most of the positions were uncontested elections, no wonder there were no advertisements abotu them. Democracy doesn't work so well when there's only one candidate.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
November 08 2016 19:17 GMT
#119662
Thanks Greenhorizons, gonna watch this :D
maru lover forever
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24346 Posts
November 08 2016 19:18 GMT
#119663
On November 09 2016 04:16 zlefin wrote:
Back from voting. most of the positions were uncontested elections, no wonder there were no advertisements abotu them. Democracy doesn't work so well when there's only one candidate.


That's the final form of American democracy. "You have a choice, you can write in whoever you want".
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12533 Posts
November 08 2016 19:22 GMT
#119664
Michigan looks pretty unsafe...

Don't disappoint, America, we're watching
No will to live, no wish to die
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 08 2016 19:22 GMT
#119665
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/breaking-live-news

donald trump vs nevada
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 08 2016 19:24 GMT
#119666
On November 09 2016 04:16 zlefin wrote:
Back from voting. most of the positions were uncontested elections, no wonder there were no advertisements abotu them. Democracy doesn't work so well when there's only one candidate.

When you have only one candidate, you have only one choice. A rock-solid argument for who to vote for.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 08 2016 19:24 GMT
#119667
On November 09 2016 04:22 Nebuchad wrote:
Michigan looks pretty unsafe...

Don't disappoint, America, we're watching

I'm sure it being cold as fuck is their primary concern over violence.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
November 08 2016 19:25 GMT
#119668
On November 09 2016 04:22 ticklishmusic wrote:
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/breaking-live-news

donald trump vs nevada

I think Las Vegas prefers to have their casinos be profitable
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12533 Posts
November 08 2016 19:26 GMT
#119669
On November 09 2016 04:24 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 04:22 Nebuchad wrote:
Michigan looks pretty unsafe...

Don't disappoint, America, we're watching

I'm sure it being cold as fuck is their primary concern over violence.


I meant unsafe in terms of Hillary's lead, that came out wrong sorry
No will to live, no wish to die
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-08 19:27:45
November 08 2016 19:27 GMT
#119670
The Young Turks are having a really good policy debate right now.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18869 Posts
November 08 2016 19:28 GMT
#119671
On November 09 2016 04:24 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 04:22 Nebuchad wrote:
Michigan looks pretty unsafe...

Don't disappoint, America, we're watching

I'm sure it being cold as fuck is their primary concern over violence.

It's not that cold today, and Michigan isn't unsafe for Hillary.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12533 Posts
November 08 2016 19:29 GMT
#119672
I really enjoy TYT in general, I'm not sure why it gets a bad rep on this forum (other than you're mostly to their right politically but still)
No will to live, no wish to die
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-08 19:30:35
November 08 2016 19:29 GMT
#119673
On November 09 2016 03:57 Tachion wrote:
What is the reasoning behind the swing in the markets depending on who wins the election? Why is it good for the market if Hillary wins, and bad if Trump does?


Hillary is good for the market because it represents big business rather than the economy as a whole. The companies that stand to gain the most from a Hillary presidency are the ones that already have her in their pockets, which also overlaps a lot with the S&P 1000.

Trump, on the other hand, hasn't been as broad a focus of corporate investment.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 08 2016 19:30 GMT
#119674
On November 09 2016 04:28 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 04:24 Probe1 wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:22 Nebuchad wrote:
Michigan looks pretty unsafe...

Don't disappoint, America, we're watching

I'm sure it being cold as fuck is their primary concern over violence.

It's not that cold today, and Michigan isn't unsafe for Hillary.

It is when you're looking at the temps from Florida
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12533 Posts
November 08 2016 19:31 GMT
#119675
On November 09 2016 04:28 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 04:24 Probe1 wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:22 Nebuchad wrote:
Michigan looks pretty unsafe...

Don't disappoint, America, we're watching

I'm sure it being cold as fuck is their primary concern over violence.

It's not that cold today, and Michigan isn't unsafe for Hillary.


Caught some report on twitter that said record turnout for middle or working class white folks right in the demographic target of Trump... Which is not necessarily indicative of anything though.
No will to live, no wish to die
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 08 2016 19:32 GMT
#119676
On November 09 2016 04:29 Nebuchad wrote:
I really enjoy TYT in general, I'm not sure why it gets a bad rep on this forum (other than you're mostly to their right politically but still)

Are you kidding me? This forum leans pretty strongly left by American standards.

TYT is a bunch of not very impressive partisans who are just as biased and irrational as Fox News. I don't enjoy listening to what they have to say. Though considering that people here like John Oliver there might be more to it than that.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18869 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-08 19:34:21
November 08 2016 19:33 GMT
#119677
On November 09 2016 04:31 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 04:28 farvacola wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:24 Probe1 wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:22 Nebuchad wrote:
Michigan looks pretty unsafe...

Don't disappoint, America, we're watching

I'm sure it being cold as fuck is their primary concern over violence.

It's not that cold today, and Michigan isn't unsafe for Hillary.


Caught some report on twitter that said record turnout for middle or working class white folks right in the demographic target of Trump... Which is not necessarily indicative of anything though.

My guess is that those populations aren't nearly as pro-Trump as some believe; besides, unless these "working class" folk are taking off work, most haven't had the chance to vote yet.
On November 09 2016 04:30 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 04:28 farvacola wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:24 Probe1 wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:22 Nebuchad wrote:
Michigan looks pretty unsafe...

Don't disappoint, America, we're watching

I'm sure it being cold as fuck is their primary concern over violence.

It's not that cold today, and Michigan isn't unsafe for Hillary.

It is when you're looking at the temps from Florida

We actually can have a climate quite similar to Florida in the summer due to being sandwiched between two lakes, but yes, there's a big difference.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12533 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-08 19:36:36
November 08 2016 19:36 GMT
#119678
On November 09 2016 04:32 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 04:29 Nebuchad wrote:
I really enjoy TYT in general, I'm not sure why it gets a bad rep on this forum (other than you're mostly to their right politically but still)

Are you kidding me? This forum leans pretty strongly left by American standards.

TYT is a bunch of not very impressive partisans who are just as biased and irrational as Fox News. I don't enjoy listening to what they have to say. Though considering that people here like John Oliver there might be more to it than that.


No, I'm not kidding you, and I'm pretty sure what I said is clearly true: that they are to the left of most of this forum? Not sure what sparked that reaction.

As for their irrationality, I don't really see it demonstrated as much as I see it asserted.
No will to live, no wish to die
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-08 19:39:31
November 08 2016 19:39 GMT
#119679
Whoever the Jimmy guy is on TYT made some really valid points. But he seems to be against the reform by inches argument.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
November 08 2016 19:43 GMT
#119680
On November 09 2016 04:33 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 04:31 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:28 farvacola wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:24 Probe1 wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:22 Nebuchad wrote:
Michigan looks pretty unsafe...

Don't disappoint, America, we're watching

I'm sure it being cold as fuck is their primary concern over violence.

It's not that cold today, and Michigan isn't unsafe for Hillary.


Caught some report on twitter that said record turnout for middle or working class white folks right in the demographic target of Trump... Which is not necessarily indicative of anything though.

My guess is that those populations aren't nearly as pro-Trump as some believe; besides, unless these "working class" folk are taking off work, most haven't had the chance to vote yet.
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 04:30 Probe1 wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:28 farvacola wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:24 Probe1 wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:22 Nebuchad wrote:
Michigan looks pretty unsafe...

Don't disappoint, America, we're watching

I'm sure it being cold as fuck is their primary concern over violence.

It's not that cold today, and Michigan isn't unsafe for Hillary.

It is when you're looking at the temps from Florida

We actually can have a climate quite similar to Florida in the summer due to being sandwiched between two lakes, but yes, there's a big difference.


I don't know how they live with that humidity though. Plus I like having snow and all the seasons.
Never Knows Best.
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