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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 08 2016 19:44 GMT
#119681
On November 09 2016 04:36 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 04:32 LegalLord wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:29 Nebuchad wrote:
I really enjoy TYT in general, I'm not sure why it gets a bad rep on this forum (other than you're mostly to their right politically but still)

Are you kidding me? This forum leans pretty strongly left by American standards.

TYT is a bunch of not very impressive partisans who are just as biased and irrational as Fox News. I don't enjoy listening to what they have to say. Though considering that people here like John Oliver there might be more to it than that.


No, I'm not kidding you, and I'm pretty sure what I said is clearly true: that they are to the left of most of this forum? Not sure what sparked that reaction.

As for their irrationality, I don't really see it demonstrated as much as I see it asserted.

In that case all you really need to know is that the people here just don't find TYT to be to their liking and prefer to watch something else. Simple as that.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
November 08 2016 19:45 GMT
#119682
6/6 + NH here we come. I believe!
Question.?
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 08 2016 19:47 GMT
#119683
I'll be working through the night and I don't think I'll be very available to watch this election develop. Let's just hope for a nice, clean, not-rigged result so I can go to bed on time after finding out who won.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
November 08 2016 19:49 GMT
#119684
Hosting a party at my place for the results. This is going to be awesome.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-08 19:52:02
November 08 2016 19:50 GMT
#119685
On November 09 2016 04:49 kwizach wrote:
Hosting a party at my place for the results. This is going to be awesome.


I always imagine things like this are really weird when everyone's candidate lost.

Edit: In my doomsday scenario of Clinton losing Florida, NC and Nevada, it all comes down to Michigan. I think as long as there isn't massive voter suppression, Clinton can win there.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12363 Posts
November 08 2016 19:51 GMT
#119686
On November 09 2016 04:44 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 04:36 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:32 LegalLord wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:29 Nebuchad wrote:
I really enjoy TYT in general, I'm not sure why it gets a bad rep on this forum (other than you're mostly to their right politically but still)

Are you kidding me? This forum leans pretty strongly left by American standards.

TYT is a bunch of not very impressive partisans who are just as biased and irrational as Fox News. I don't enjoy listening to what they have to say. Though considering that people here like John Oliver there might be more to it than that.


No, I'm not kidding you, and I'm pretty sure what I said is clearly true: that they are to the left of most of this forum? Not sure what sparked that reaction.

As for their irrationality, I don't really see it demonstrated as much as I see it asserted.

In that case all you really need to know is that the people here just don't find TYT to be to their liking and prefer to watch something else. Simple as that.


Well that's pretty weak following a "you're the same as a Fox News watcher", but fine, let's go with that.

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No will to live, no wish to die
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
November 08 2016 19:52 GMT
#119687
On November 09 2016 04:45 biology]major wrote:
6/6 + NH here we come. I believe!


That path closed when the Nevada early vote numbers made both sides pretty sure she has won that. His new path involves flipping Pennsylvania or Michigan
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23491 Posts
November 08 2016 19:52 GMT
#119688
On November 09 2016 04:50 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 04:49 kwizach wrote:
Hosting a party at my place for the results. This is going to be awesome.


I always imagine things like this are really weird when everyone's candidate lost.


Wouldn't be able to stop myself from posting a Jonestown picture titled "Kwizach's party after Trump won" if he wins. Regardless of what happens, it's going to be 4 looong years.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
November 08 2016 19:52 GMT
#119689
On November 09 2016 04:50 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 04:49 kwizach wrote:
Hosting a party at my place for the results. This is going to be awesome.


I always imagine things like this are really weird when everyone's candidate lost.

Well it can be a pity party if that happens.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 08 2016 19:52 GMT
#119690
On November 09 2016 04:43 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 04:33 farvacola wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:31 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:28 farvacola wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:24 Probe1 wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:22 Nebuchad wrote:
Michigan looks pretty unsafe...

Don't disappoint, America, we're watching

I'm sure it being cold as fuck is their primary concern over violence.

It's not that cold today, and Michigan isn't unsafe for Hillary.


Caught some report on twitter that said record turnout for middle or working class white folks right in the demographic target of Trump... Which is not necessarily indicative of anything though.

My guess is that those populations aren't nearly as pro-Trump as some believe; besides, unless these "working class" folk are taking off work, most haven't had the chance to vote yet.
On November 09 2016 04:30 Probe1 wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:28 farvacola wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:24 Probe1 wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:22 Nebuchad wrote:
Michigan looks pretty unsafe...

Don't disappoint, America, we're watching

I'm sure it being cold as fuck is their primary concern over violence.

It's not that cold today, and Michigan isn't unsafe for Hillary.

It is when you're looking at the temps from Florida

We actually can have a climate quite similar to Florida in the summer due to being sandwiched between two lakes, but yes, there's a big difference.


I don't know how they live with that humidity though. Plus I like having snow and all the seasons.

The miraculous gift of modern HVAC. Also we notice it less than visitors like we notice the cold more severely than people who regularly experience it.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-08 19:57:40
November 08 2016 19:54 GMT
#119691
clinton is not about gradualism, but possibilism, realism or good policy-ism.

if you leftists have some actual policy proposals that are not counterproductive or severely damaging to national interest in other areas, they'll get a hearing.


balkanization of media into self selected, ideologically closed clusters lead to bad policy perspectives. refusal to consider possibility that your candidate has terrible policy ideas has been persistent problem for large swath of activist left.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-08 19:55:47
November 08 2016 19:55 GMT
#119692
On November 09 2016 04:52 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 04:50 Mohdoo wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:49 kwizach wrote:
Hosting a party at my place for the results. This is going to be awesome.


I always imagine things like this are really weird when everyone's candidate lost.


Wouldn't be able to stop myself from posting a Jonestown picture titled "Kwizach's party after Trump won" if he wins. Regardless of what happens, it's going to be 4 looong years.

I'm not gonna lie, I looked up "Hillary electable" memes to be a jerk in case Trump pulls out the win. I found a "Wall Street HATES him" ad parodies of Bernie Sanders and had a good laugh out of it.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 08 2016 19:56 GMT
#119693
On November 09 2016 04:54 oneofthem wrote:
clinton is not about gradualism, but possibilism, realism or good policy-ism.

if you leftists have some actual policy proposals that are not counterproductive or severely damaging to national interest in other areas, they'll get a hearing.

Basically the DNC as a whole there. Which is fine to me. While I do lean left I disagree with a ton of left things.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Wolfstan
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada605 Posts
November 08 2016 19:56 GMT
#119694
On November 09 2016 04:39 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Whoever the Jimmy guy is on TYT made some really valid points. But he seems to be against the reform by inches argument.

I like them, they are part of the news spectrum I consume. They are all against the reform by inches philosophy, they want a muscular democratic party, they want to beat republican ideas into submission. FFS a couple weeks ago they advocated for voter suppression and gerrymandering in democratic areas.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18839 Posts
November 08 2016 19:58 GMT
#119695
On November 09 2016 04:49 kwizach wrote:
Hosting a party at my place for the results. This is going to be awesome.

Nice, I'm just gonna hole up with my girlfriend and watch it all go down in private. Otherwise, I might get whipped up into a frenzy should Clinton lose and join a posse of couch burners.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 08 2016 20:01 GMT
#119696
On November 09 2016 04:51 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 04:44 LegalLord wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:36 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:32 LegalLord wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:29 Nebuchad wrote:
I really enjoy TYT in general, I'm not sure why it gets a bad rep on this forum (other than you're mostly to their right politically but still)

Are you kidding me? This forum leans pretty strongly left by American standards.

TYT is a bunch of not very impressive partisans who are just as biased and irrational as Fox News. I don't enjoy listening to what they have to say. Though considering that people here like John Oliver there might be more to it than that.


No, I'm not kidding you, and I'm pretty sure what I said is clearly true: that they are to the left of most of this forum? Not sure what sparked that reaction.

As for their irrationality, I don't really see it demonstrated as much as I see it asserted.

In that case all you really need to know is that the people here just don't find TYT to be to their liking and prefer to watch something else. Simple as that.


Well that's pretty weak following a "you're the same as a Fox News watcher", but fine, let's go with that.

User was warned for this post


it's literally the end of the election season and still think you dont have a good grasp of the us political spectrum and what constitutes mainstream left/right here. it skews quite a bit farther right than in the EU - KwarK is a conservative in the UK but is pretty center left here. so please refrain on commenting on stuff you're blatantly wrong about.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 08 2016 20:03 GMT
#119697
On November 09 2016 04:58 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 04:49 kwizach wrote:
Hosting a party at my place for the results. This is going to be awesome.

Nice, I'm just gonna hole up with my girlfriend and watch it all go down in private. Otherwise, I might get whipped up into a frenzy should Clinton lose and join a posse of couch burners.

What are you from Michigan State?
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18839 Posts
November 08 2016 20:05 GMT
#119698
On November 09 2016 05:03 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 04:58 farvacola wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:49 kwizach wrote:
Hosting a party at my place for the results. This is going to be awesome.

Nice, I'm just gonna hole up with my girlfriend and watch it all go down in private. Otherwise, I might get whipped up into a frenzy should Clinton lose and join a posse of couch burners.

What are you from Michigan State?

Finishing up my last year of law school there, though I'm a Buckeye through and through. In either case, I know couch burning well
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12363 Posts
November 08 2016 20:06 GMT
#119699
On November 09 2016 05:01 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2016 04:51 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:44 LegalLord wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:36 Nebuchad wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:32 LegalLord wrote:
On November 09 2016 04:29 Nebuchad wrote:
I really enjoy TYT in general, I'm not sure why it gets a bad rep on this forum (other than you're mostly to their right politically but still)

Are you kidding me? This forum leans pretty strongly left by American standards.

TYT is a bunch of not very impressive partisans who are just as biased and irrational as Fox News. I don't enjoy listening to what they have to say. Though considering that people here like John Oliver there might be more to it than that.


No, I'm not kidding you, and I'm pretty sure what I said is clearly true: that they are to the left of most of this forum? Not sure what sparked that reaction.

As for their irrationality, I don't really see it demonstrated as much as I see it asserted.

In that case all you really need to know is that the people here just don't find TYT to be to their liking and prefer to watch something else. Simple as that.


Well that's pretty weak following a "you're the same as a Fox News watcher", but fine, let's go with that.

User was warned for this post


it's literally the end of the election season and still think you dont have a good grasp of the us political spectrum and what constitutes mainstream left/right here. it skews quite a bit farther right than in the EU - KwarK is a conservative in the UK but is pretty center left here. so please refrain on commenting on stuff you're blatantly wrong about.


I have a good grasp of that... And I maintain that TYT is to the left of most of this forum, which is not related to where this forum is on the american political scale (mostly to its left). Seriously I don't understand how this could be in any way controversial? TYT was full Bernie Sanders. You were mostly pro Clinton. Bernie Sanders is to the left of Clinton.
No will to live, no wish to die
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
November 08 2016 20:09 GMT
#119700
that stream is now down

now what, i need a stream to watch i want to see the results live!
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