US Politics Mega-thread - Page 5406

On October 10 2016 01:43 LegalLord wrote:

Not a bad place to start; in general just looking at any strings of discussion that GH has almost always been involved in regarding Hillary's dirty dealings is a good way to go about it.

Beyond that, I'm not going to bother. It's not a topic I have much interest in rehashing because it's not very interesting or productive, and explaining things to Adreme is about as productive as trying to explain imperialism to Cowboy24.

On October 10 2016 02:13 biology]major wrote:
Given these recent trump tapes, her reluctance to do press conferences makes perfect sense. I'd wondered how she was so confident to just run out the clock, this is why. As for the debate tonight, trump is going to go down in flames and drag everyone he can down with him. I don't even know if there will be a third debate. Unless a 4D chess playing, humble, policy focused version shows up, one can dream.

On October 10 2016 01:59 GoTuNk! wrote:


The email thing was not just "making a mistake". On purpose after that she deliberately tried to cover it up, obstruct justice and basically did as much as possible to hide it until it blew in her face.

How about Bill's rape accusations and her help covering it up? He even settled many times. This is actual mistreating of woman, as oppossed to some locker room comments before a TV pilot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct_allegations

Broaddrick's allegations resurfaced in the 2016 presidential campaign. In various media interviews, Broaddrick stated that Clinton raped her and that Hillary Clinton knew about it, and tried to threaten Broaddrick into remaining silent. She claimed that she started giving some interviews in 2015 because Hillary Clinton's statement that victims of sexual assault should be believed angered her.[7]

Or the recently leaked mails of her getting payed to suck up to Wall Street.

There is def enough evidence of very shady behavior at the very least, or in my opinion flat out criminal behavior.

On October 10 2016 02:19 Adreme wrote:


Im a little offended by that considering im the person here who is most likely to have his opinion changed as the facts change.

On October 10 2016 01:47 ticklishmusic wrote:


here's georgia. they break atlanta into 6 different districts, rofl.

On October 10 2016 01:18 Adreme wrote:
Ive still been waiting the past 30 pages (reading most every post) for someone to actually explain what makes Hilary corrupt. I mean I know all the scandals and have looked closely at them for both sides but the problem with hers is the closer you look the more it just looks like a whole bunch of nothing and no one has given me a scandal that did not turn out to be a whole bunch of nothing.

On October 10 2016 02:29 IgnE wrote:


if districts are based on population why is it funny that atlanta is broken down into six districts?

it's not immediately apparent that anything is wrong with those districts. towns, commerce, and industry take convoluted shapes most of the time

On October 10 2016 02:38 ZeaL. wrote:
NC is much worse.

On October 10 2016 02:33 Biff The Understudy wrote:

And then there is simple sexism. Let's be clear, Clinton main problem is that she is too cold blooded, too ambitious and too smart and that doesn't match what people expect from a woman.

A shitload of people are absolutely, completely certain that she is corrupt and insincere, and couldn't give you any fact to back up that claim other than a vague gut feeling.

The double standard is just amazing if you consider Trump's personality and history. Reverse the roles, and imagine for one second that Clinton had had three husbands, five children, was with a 30 years old foreign model and had spent her life basically crooking vulnerable people. You get a picture...

On October 10 2016 02:41 IgnE wrote:


now that one looks a little fucked up but maybe a case can be made that that highway corridor should
comprise a district. demographic comparisons would be interesting

like i assume that district was drawn to corral democratic votes. some of the swings away from the highway look suspicious.

On October 10 2016 02:16 ZeaL. wrote:
Based on Trump's recent tweets I think its safe to say there's gonna be a hell of a Trumpster fire tonight.

On October 10 2016 02:49 Liquid`Drone wrote:
about the gerrymandering, I think ohio immediately looks bad. No idea why the lime green is divided into three different blocks or the red is split in all kinds of weird manners.

Every other picture linked doesn't really immediately strike me as wrong? (edit: zeal's picture from after I started writing this post also looks pretty bad )

Regarding Hillary ; I was getting increasingly on board with her crookedness until the recent leaks. So far, I've seen this + Show Spoiler + which if anything makes me like her more- but somehow is spun into 'clinton admits she is out of touch', which doesn't match my understanding of that at all.

Or stuff like everything from this article http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/john-podesta-wikileaks-hacked-emails-229304

There's just.. there's nothing there that I find scandalous. Nothing. If anything what this tells me is that Hillary has successfully assembled a really competent team and that she herself is on top of everything. All the actual leaks have been much less bad than the speculations. The single worst thing reveal is probably that she's not personally a huge opponent of TTIP and she's pro free-trade in general, and that she admits to having both a public and a private political opinion on issues. Big fucking deal, everybody already knew this, and it's true for every single successful politician. And once again, it beats having several different public opinions on most issues.