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On October 06 2016 12:06 LegalLord wrote:
Question for the Europeans among us who have been following the US race: how does Trump compare to the populist candidates (e.g. Farage, Le Pen, and equivalent) in your own countries? The European versions seen somewhat more... level-headed, even if it's somewhat obvious why they remain fringe candidates.
At least as far as Le Pen is concerned :
-their goals are the same (get elected, have power)
-their main topics are the same (fear of immigration, fear of globalization, fear of other countries, fear of minorities having power, nostalgia of a fabled past, overemphasis on symbols rather than actual stuff, anti-establishment stance, anti-experts stance, anti-medias stance, etc)
-their backgrounds, while far from identical, are surprisingly similar : they're both rich people (though two very different kinds of "rich people") who got their wealth through inheritance instead of work and who try to make it look like they share the same concerns and mentality than your average joe.
-the way they communicate and campaign, though, is quite different. Trump has gone all-in on being a raw clown who doesn't shy away from saying stupid shit because he can get away with it, and he's not trying very hard to appeal to more moderate right-wingers. Le Pen, on the other hand, seems to have learned from her father that while staying stupid shit will get you media exposure and a decent % of the vote, it won't get you elected. Thus she's trying to be more subtle, for example by using women's rights or homosexuals' rights to attack Muslims instead of directly attacking them. These days, she's also trying hard to appear as a much more moderate candidate than what she was : she said that "Islam is compatible with the Republic" and, so far, hasn't said that she'll disallow homosexual marriage if elected (unlike several traditional right-wing candidates).
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On October 06 2016 12:06 LegalLord wrote:
Question for the Europeans among us who have been following the US race: how does Trump compare to the populist candidates (e.g. Farage, Le Pen, and equivalent) in your own countries? The European versions seen somewhat more... level-headed, even if it's somewhat obvious why they remain fringe candidates.
Sadly the French version of Trump is Sarkozy. It seems that the level of political stupidity in France is still lagging behind USA standards, but our right-wing politicians in particular are actively working to close the gap.
Unlike Farage, leaders from the Front National are not (openly) endorsing Trump. It wouldn't go well with their strategy of normalization anyway. When asked about the US election, they merely say that they don't like/endorse Clinton. Some of them vaguely concede that Trump is “excessive”.
The other big difference is that far-right candidates here have their own party. Despite their constant boasting, they also have no realistic chance of winning or governing (they wouldn't get a parliamentary majority).
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One Nation in Australia makes Trump look like a moderate.
Big gains in the recent election because the economy is weak (unless you're flipping houses in Melbourne or Sydney)
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RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — Duke Energy has agreed to remove millions of tons of coal ash containing toxic heavy metals from a power plant in North Carolina.
The nation's largest electricity company announced Wednesday that it would dig up three huge pits of water-logged ash at the Buck Steam Station near Salisbury. The ash will be dried and either offered for use in making concrete or moved to lined landfills elsewhere.
Duke agreed to remove the dumps to settle a federal lawsuit filed two years ago by the Southern Environmental Law Center. The ash — left behind when coal is burned to generate electricity — contains such toxic chemicals as lead and mercury, which over time can seep into the groundwater.
Duke's handling of coal ash and the company's sometimes cozy relationship with state regulators has been under scrutiny since a dump at a different Duke plant ruptured in 2014, coating miles of the Dan River in gray sludge.
The Associated Press soon reported that concerning levels of chemicals contained in coal ash were found in drinking-water wells in Dukeville, a rural hamlet adjacent to the Buck plant. Among them, hexavalent chromium is known to cause lung cancer when inhaled, and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency says it is likely to be carcinogenic when ingested.
Duke denies its dumps contaminated the wells but has been providing bottled water to the residents.
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On October 06 2016 12:58 Nebuchad wrote:
One of the great mysteries of my life is why nobody is using the term Social Injustice Warriors (or SIWs).
We already have conservatives for that.
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Voters in four states appear likely to approve ballot measures that would legalize marijuana for recreational purposes, according to recent surveys, while voters are split on the question in a fifth state.
The polls, taken over the last few weeks, demonstrate a seismic shift in the politics of pot. Even a decades ago, voters rewarded politicians who promised to redouble the war on drugs. After November’s elections, nearly a quarter of Americans could live in states where marijuana consumption is legal.
But proponents and opponents alike say that polls taken before Election Day often overstate support for legal marijuana measures.
“If the pro-legalization side is not at 55 percent at this point, it will likely lose,” said Sean Noble, an Arizona-based Republican strategist working against that state’s legalization measure, Proposition 205. “We know that polling on legalization generally over performs actual results.”
California voters appear to be the most willing to legalize marijuana for recreational purposes. The Public Policy Institute of California and the Field Poll both show 60 percent of state voters support Proposition 64, while just 36 percent and 31 percent, respectively, oppose legalization.
California was the first state in the nation to legalize marijuana for medicinal purposes, back in 1996. Golden State voters rejected attempts to allow recreational use in 1972 and 2010. Today, majorities of voters in every region of the state and in every age and ethnic bracket support legalization.
In Maine and Massachusetts, just about half of voters support ballot measures that would allow recreational use. A MassINC poll conducted for WBUR in early September showed 50 percent of Massachusetts voters support legalization, while 53 percent said they back Question 4 in a University of Massachusetts Amherst poll conducted for WBZ-TV.
Fifty-three percent of Mainers told University of New Hampshire pollsters they back Question 1, that state’s legalization measure. Only voters over the age of 65 oppose legalizing pot. Six in ten Maine voters said they had tried marijuana at some point in their lives.
And in Arizona, 50 percent of voters said they support Proposition 205, according to an Arizona Republic/Morrison/Cronkite News poll conducted in early September. Private polling in the state shows the measure leading by narrower margins, however.
The closest battle over legal marijuana appears to be in Nevada, where a new Bendixen & Amandi survey shows a statistical tie. Forty-seven percent of Nevada voters support Question 2, while 46 percent are opposed, according to the survey conducted last week for the Las Vegas Review-Journal.
A Suffolk University poll conducted about the same time as the Bendixen survey shows much broader support. In that survey, 57 percent of Nevada voters backed legalization, while just 33 percent were opposed.
Polls in all five states show older voters and Republicans are less likely to support legalization than younger voters, Democrats and independents. Minorities, especially Hispanic voters, are more likely to be undecided than white voters.
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Legalisation is a win/win.
More taxes for the Govt and fewer people in jail for possession.
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http://gizmodo.com/nyc-produces-twice-as-much-garbage-as-any-other-large-c-1703190355
NYC Produces Twice As Much Garbage As Any Other City On Earth
New York City creates 33 million tons of waste a year. The next closest offender is Mexico City (the label is missing from the graph above), which generates a comparatively quaint 12 million tons of trash, followed by Tokyo, which, again, has a full dozen million more potentially garbage-generating citizens. The average New Yorker uses two dozen times more energy than someone in Kolkata, and creates 15 times as much solid waste. I’ll say it again: New York is one dirty megacity.
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On October 06 2016 22:10 Kickboxer wrote:Cool photos on topic. They both sure have had interesting lives www.buzzfeed.com
pretty cool, thanks 
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On October 06 2016 13:11 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +WASHINGTON — For more than a decade, Suleiman Anwar Bengharsa has served as a Muslim cleric in Maryland, working as a prison chaplain and as an imam at mosques in Annapolis and outside Baltimore. He gave a two-week course in 2011 on Islamic teachings on marriage at the Islamic Society of Baltimore, where President Obama made a much-publicized visit this year.
But in the last two years, Imam Bengharsa’s public pronouncements have taken a dark turn. On Facebook, he has openly endorsed the Islamic State, posted gruesome videos showing ISIS fighters beheading and burning alive their enemies and praised terrorist attacks overseas. The “Islamic Jurisprudence Center” website he set up last year has condemned American mosques as un-Islamic and declared that homosexual acts should be punished by death.
That is not all. An affidavit filed in federal court by the F.B.I. says that Imam Bengharsa, 59, supplied $1,300 in June 2015 to a Detroit man who used it to expand his arsenal of firearms and grenades. The man, Sebastian Gregerson, 29, a Muslim convert who sometimes calls himself Abdurrahaman Bin Mikaayl, was arrested in late July and indicted on explosives charges.
Nearly a year ago, in fact, the F.B.I. said in a court filing — accidentally and temporarily made public in an online database — that agents suspected the two men were plotting terrorism. “Based on the totality of the aforementioned information and evidence, there is reason to believe that Bengharsa and Gregerson are engaged in discussions and preparations for some violent act on behalf of” the Islamic State, an agent wrote.
Yet Imam Bengharsa has not been arrested or charged. It appears that the authorities do not have clear evidence that he has broken the law. His inflammatory statements are protected by the First Amendment, and agents appear to have no proof that he knew Mr. Gregerson planned to buy illegal explosives. In his checkbook, next to the notation for the $1,300 check, Imam Bengharsa wrote “zakat,” or charity, the documents show. NYT
Yeah this guy needs to be relentlessly harassed and driven out by patriots and I'm not even kidding.
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On October 06 2016 22:39 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 13:11 Danglars wrote:WASHINGTON — For more than a decade, Suleiman Anwar Bengharsa has served as a Muslim cleric in Maryland, working as a prison chaplain and as an imam at mosques in Annapolis and outside Baltimore. He gave a two-week course in 2011 on Islamic teachings on marriage at the Islamic Society of Baltimore, where President Obama made a much-publicized visit this year.
But in the last two years, Imam Bengharsa’s public pronouncements have taken a dark turn. On Facebook, he has openly endorsed the Islamic State, posted gruesome videos showing ISIS fighters beheading and burning alive their enemies and praised terrorist attacks overseas. The “Islamic Jurisprudence Center” website he set up last year has condemned American mosques as un-Islamic and declared that homosexual acts should be punished by death.
That is not all. An affidavit filed in federal court by the F.B.I. says that Imam Bengharsa, 59, supplied $1,300 in June 2015 to a Detroit man who used it to expand his arsenal of firearms and grenades. The man, Sebastian Gregerson, 29, a Muslim convert who sometimes calls himself Abdurrahaman Bin Mikaayl, was arrested in late July and indicted on explosives charges.
Nearly a year ago, in fact, the F.B.I. said in a court filing — accidentally and temporarily made public in an online database — that agents suspected the two men were plotting terrorism. “Based on the totality of the aforementioned information and evidence, there is reason to believe that Bengharsa and Gregerson are engaged in discussions and preparations for some violent act on behalf of” the Islamic State, an agent wrote.
Yet Imam Bengharsa has not been arrested or charged. It appears that the authorities do not have clear evidence that he has broken the law. His inflammatory statements are protected by the First Amendment, and agents appear to have no proof that he knew Mr. Gregerson planned to buy illegal explosives. In his checkbook, next to the notation for the $1,300 check, Imam Bengharsa wrote “zakat,” or charity, the documents show. NYT Yeah this guy needs to be relentlessly harassed and driven out by patriots and I'm not even kidding.
Inflammatory rhetoric protected by the first ammendment... facepalm. Well atleast if they cant do nothing about it legally speaking they have cause to monitor.
Also putting zakat on a cheque doesnt just mean it can go to anyone...
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So Trump seems to aiming for a fuck up in every swing state.
1) Florida-Embargo breaking disaster
2) Nevada-mispronouncing the name of the state when saying he knows how to pronounce it
3) Ohio-LeBron endorsed Clinton.
What's he going to do to screw up PA and CO?
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On October 06 2016 20:28 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 12:06 LegalLord wrote:
Question for the Europeans among us who have been following the US race: how does Trump compare to the populist candidates (e.g. Farage, Le Pen, and equivalent) in your own countries? The European versions seen somewhat more... level-headed, even if it's somewhat obvious why they remain fringe candidates. At least as far as Le Pen is concerned : -their goals are the same (get elected, have power) -their main topics are the same (fear of immigration, fear of globalization, fear of other countries, fear of minorities having power, nostalgia of a fabled past, overemphasis on symbols rather than actual stuff, anti-establishment stance, anti-experts stance, anti-medias stance, etc) -their backgrounds, while far from identical, are surprisingly similar : they're both rich people (though two very different kinds of "rich people") who got their wealth through inheritance instead of work and who try to make it look like they share the same concerns and mentality than your average joe. -the way they communicate and campaign, though, is quite different. Trump has gone all-in on being a raw clown who doesn't shy away from saying stupid shit because he can get away with it, and he's not trying very hard to appeal to more moderate right-wingers. Le Pen, on the other hand, seems to have learned from her father that while staying stupid shit will get you media exposure and a decent % of the vote, it won't get you elected. Thus she's trying to be more subtle, for example by using women's rights or homosexuals' rights to attack Muslims instead of directly attacking them. These days, she's also trying hard to appear as a much more moderate candidate than what she was : she said that "Islam is compatible with the Republic" and, so far, hasn't said that she'll disallow homosexual marriage if elected (unlike several traditional right-wing candidates).
Yeah Trump is like a successful Le Pen father, with all those blunders (a comic at heart), but he is quite different from Marine. Marine Le Pen is for an increase in min wage, lowering retirement, etc., many things Trump is very far from ! She is a colbertist, very pro state, while Trump is more a nationalist.
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Trump is in favor of raising the min wage as well. Don't know his stance on retirement
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The subtext is "executive orders I disagree with"
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On October 06 2016 22:55 TheTenthDoc wrote:
So Trump seems to aiming for a fuck up in every swing state.
1) Florida-Embargo breaking disaster
2) Nevada-mispronouncing the name of the state when saying he knows how to pronounce it
3) Ohio-LeBron endorsed Clinton.
What's he going to do to screw up PA and CO?
PA and CO don't look competitive for him. If we assume both of those, plus NH, are out of the running for Trump that leaves him exactly one path to victory, FL, NV, OH, IA, NC. 5/5 and he wins. 538 puts him at 0/5 but they're all so close that they could go either way.
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On October 06 2016 23:21 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 22:55 TheTenthDoc wrote:
So Trump seems to aiming for a fuck up in every swing state.
1) Florida-Embargo breaking disaster
2) Nevada-mispronouncing the name of the state when saying he knows how to pronounce it
3) Ohio-LeBron endorsed Clinton.
What's he going to do to screw up PA and CO? PA and CO don't look competitive for him. If we assume both of those, plus NH, are out of the running for Trump that leaves him exactly one path to victory, FL, NV, OH, IA, NC. 5/5 and he wins. 538 puts him at 0/5 but they're all so close that they could go either way.
Trump could win all five and still lose. See my previous post.
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On October 06 2016 23:21 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2016 22:55 TheTenthDoc wrote:
So Trump seems to aiming for a fuck up in every swing state.
1) Florida-Embargo breaking disaster
2) Nevada-mispronouncing the name of the state when saying he knows how to pronounce it
3) Ohio-LeBron endorsed Clinton.
What's he going to do to screw up PA and CO? PA and CO don't look competitive for him. If we assume both of those, plus NH, are out of the running for Trump that leaves him exactly one path to victory, FL, NV, OH, IA, NC. 5/5 and he wins. 538 puts him at 0/5 but they're all so close that they could go either way.
I think he needs Colorado on top of that? (Forget Arizona, if Hillary can hold that there's no need for a discussion)
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OH, IA, NC should be doable come election day if he does decently during the next debate. They're fairly red and I don't really see Clinton holding the lead there. Idk, she has the momentum and Trump keeps falling for weeks now but call it a gut feeling that you just don't get nice things for free.
FL is pretty coinflip-ish if he gets enough to get OH, IA, NC back and NV maybe slightly worse than a coinflip for him.
But Colorado on top of that? That seems pretty outlandish atm
//Those damn ninjas
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