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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
He's gone an entire week with only one or two career-ending mistakes. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
Now he understands. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On August 24 2016 08:40 CannonsNCarriers wrote: Followon problem: how do voters know where you stand if you don't acknowledge that you have changed your mind? Trump could be anywhere on immigration at this point. Trump won't acknowledge his own past positions, and won't own up to his current position. It is one thing to say changing facts have compelled you to update your position, it is altogether another to do what Trump does and simply take opposite positions on a weekly basis depending on who he is talking to (deport them all, deport just the bad ones, softening, path to citizenship, ban H1B visas, institute patriotism tests, religious bans, religious quizzes, no religious bans). Some of this is the reason his support has waned in the general. Not for acknowledging a change of mind, but for being on all sides of an issue at once. The religious shit is a notable exception. The communication beyond the literalist sense (see Scott Adam's reasoning on persuasion) is he will be tough on immigration from middle eastern countries. This has been consistent. I can see where Obama supporters get tripped up on the media frenzy at the most recent sound bite. They think it's the right policy lottery and shit that one's racist, that one's unconstitutional ... where anything involving naming the threat and committing to act to limit immigration is a winning issue for Trump. In a land where nobody in the Obama administration wants to talk about Islamic Jihad, wants to acknowledge the religious & power appeal to nonobservant and observant young Muslims, it's a breath of fresh air. He attacks a weakness/perceived weakness in past refugee/econ-migrants policy, and still wins if he proposes ten ways and seven variations, provided none of them are decreased screening and increased immigration from present day rates. | ||
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kwizach
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The new birthers: Debunking the Hillary Clinton health conspiracy From Donald Trump and his top surrogates to the right-wing media and its engine rooms of outrage in the blogosphere, Hillary Clinton's opponents are ramping up efforts to sow doubt over the candidate's health. The campaign -- which goes back years -- has escalated to shouting over the summer, as Trump spiraled in the polls while mostly failing to connect with voters outside his base demographic. Now, as the race enters a crucial phase, there has been a growing push to fundamentally undermine Clinton's candidacy. Much in the way "birthers" (Trump was among the most prominent) sought similar ends by questioning President Barack Obama's citizenship, the "healthers" are using junk science and conspiracy theories to argue that Clinton is suffering from a series of debilitating brain injuries. In an interview on "Fox News Sunday" this weekend, former New York City mayor and Trump surrogate Rudy Giuliani first accused the mainstream media of hiding evidence, then encouraged doubters to "go online and put down 'Hillary Clinton illness.'" There is absolutely no credible evidence to backstop any of these claims, including on the "videos" Giuliani cited. Clinton's physician -- the only person to speak on the record who has actually examined her -- has repeatedly affirmed the former secretary of state's health and fitness for the highest office in the land. But for those who want to believe, the structure of the lie borders on impenetrable -- baked into its "medical" assertions is the tightly held belief that the press is in cahoots with Clinton, protecting her political prospects by working overtime to hide her imagined ailment. The facts, though, tell a very different story. Source They're basically throwing everything but the kitchen sink at her, as they've been doing for years. And she's still going to win in November. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45430 Posts
On August 24 2016 10:11 kwizach wrote: A pretty thorough look at the conspiracy theories surrounding Clinton's health: Source They're basically throwing everything but the kitchen sink at her, as they've been doing for years. And she's still going to win in November. Well obviously they can't question her birthplace... She's white! | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 24 2016 12:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Well obviously they can't question her birthplace... She's white! Shhhhh we can't talk about the r-word here. It's not acceptable. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On August 24 2016 10:03 Danglars wrote: anything involving naming the threat and committing to act to limit immigration is a winning issue for Trump. I'm not so sure about that, bud. It's a winning issue for his Republican primary voters. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45430 Posts
On August 24 2016 12:13 Doodsmack wrote: I wonder which of the conspiracy theories out there, besides birtherism, Trump believes. He certainly has insinuated Obama is secretly on the side of terrorists and Hillary lacks proper health to be president. He's anti-vaxxer and believes that climate change is a Chinese hoax too. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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farvacola
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
NC seems to be one of those typical tossup states where Trump is doing disproportionately badly. Lots of more educated voters in the metropolitan triangle, similar impact in GA, NH, PA, VA with the latter three falling into the Dem column and the the former one becoming a bit of a tossup. This goes for the senate race as well-- NH, PA and VA could have been closer if Trump wasn't dragging down the Republican candidates so much. NV has traditionally polled a little low for Dems due to under-representation of the Hispanic population in most polls (especially the strongly Dem voting part). Trump's particular weakness among Hispanics will cost him here in particular, with potential for that to spread to AZ a9dn the senate race). FL is similar, plus I expect Dem support to consolidate a bit after Murphy wins the primary - some space for Murphy to go up, decent space for Rubio to go down. Of course, if Grayson wins it's a lost seat. Bayh is destroying his opponent in IN, which will more than likely go blue - it might be Clinton riding his coattails here. Duckworth will win handily as well. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On August 24 2016 23:59 farvacola wrote: My NYT update just told me that their analysts think that Democrats have a 60% chance of winning the Senate this November. That'd be nice So ... slightly better than a coinflip ? | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On August 24 2016 06:24 TheLordofAwesome wrote: Credit card information is a poor choice of example. When it comes to credit card information, there is such a thing as responsible disclosure. Get a meeting with some corporate person and show him the goods. No need to spread it all over the internet. "White hat" hackers and penetration testers practice this kind of responsible disclosure all the time. I'm curious where in the Western world you think someone who was highly wanted by the US government would be safe. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15742 Posts
Several people familiar with the organization said eight core staff members have stepped down. The group’s entire organizing department quit this week, along with people working in digital and data positions. After the resignations, Mr. Sanders spoke to some who had quit and asked them to reconsider, but the staff members refused. At the heart of the issue, according to several people who left, was deep distrust of and frustration with Mr. Weaver, whom they accused of wasting money on television advertising during Mr. Sanders’s campaign; mismanaging campaign funds by failing to hire staff or effectively target voters; and creating a hostile work environment by threatening to criticize staff members if they quit. Source: NYT I don't have a clue why Bernie is clinging so hard to Weaver. I imagine it is largely a trust thing. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On August 25 2016 01:28 Mohdoo wrote: Bernie Sanders’s New Political Group Is Met by Staff Revolt Source: NYT I don't have a clue why Bernie is clinging so hard to Weaver. I imagine it is largely a trust thing. This is kind of illustrating how hard it is to throw people under the bus if you, personally, have a good relationship with them. DWS is a monumental shithead as DNC chair (though she's vastly more qualified than Canova to be rep) but it's hard for Clinton to ditch her for more or less the same reason Bernie can't dump Weaver. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45430 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On August 25 2016 01:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Is that just for those $55,000 or is it permanently, from now on? I'd guess both - 55k retroactively, any royalties going forward | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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