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hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-24 18:26:01
August 24 2016 18:19 GMT
#96221
On August 25 2016 03:15 On_Slaught wrote:
I think Trump doing all these small time deals has less to do with him needing the money and more to do with his raging narcissism which requires his name being everywhere.


I think trump's just not that rich, but because of his personality and mental disorders would literally die if he had to admit it. It's also probably why he's never going to release his taxes, which every other presidential candidate has done.

eidt: How likely is it that after this election trump actually goes to jail for all of the scamming he's done and all of the campaign money that he's used to pay himself? Would be very ironic given the uproar him and his sheep followers made over wanting Hillary to go to jail.
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-24 18:25:54
August 24 2016 18:25 GMT
#96222
Oh I don't disagree that Trump likely needs the small time money to get by. I mean there is a skyscraper boom in NY and he is taking no part in it because noone trusts him.

My point is that even if he was Bill Gates rich he would likely still put his name on every item he could .
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-24 18:32:08
August 24 2016 18:29 GMT
#96223
Yeah you can say "anything that makes trump any amount of money Is good" but there's still the question of why a multi-billionaire wants to bother with pocket change revenue streams. Considering trumps lifetime business strategy of borrowing money, which caused his spectacular Atlantic City flop and very nearly caused personal bankruptcy, it raises further questions about his cash on hand. "Lol Money=business sense" is not really a sufficient explanation.

Then consider that a thought on trumps mind is why the U.S. Can't just default on its debt and make a good deal. How is trumps supposed business acumen looking for the U.S. now?
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
August 24 2016 18:35 GMT
#96224
Not sure why people keep saying he's a billionaire. His assertion that he's got money doesn't mean much. Till we see his taxes he's "alleged billionaire Donald Trump".
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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9251 Posts
August 24 2016 18:41 GMT
#96225
There is nothing unethical about putting your name on steaks, that's not the issue here. What is unethical is paying yourself royalties from campaign donations, commiting advertising fraud for your unaccredited sales course, and engaging in good 'ol ponzi schemes multi-level marketing
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 24 2016 18:42 GMT
#96226
Pretty sure opening a fake university and telling your employees to encourage people to use credit cards to pay for the classes isn’t ethical either.
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
August 24 2016 18:42 GMT
#96227
Do we have any way to model the worth of his brand and how it has changed over the course of the campaign? He's got a big following, but he also has an extremely strong anti-following. Companies can't pick him up as easily now because there would be enormous outrage. Anything he tries to get involved in will result in some massive twitter campaign. I feel like he's confined himself to alt-right news and stuff like that from now on.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 24 2016 19:00 GMT
#96228
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 24 2016 19:21 GMT
#96229
The executive of the pharmaceutical company that hiked the prices of two dozen drugs, including EpiPen, received a 671% pay increase over the past nine years.

Heather Bresch, chief executive officer of Mylan, came under public scrutiny this week after reports that since acquiring rights to EpiPen in 2007, the company had implemented a series of gradual price increases inflating the price of the drug from $56.64 to $317.82, a 461% increase in cost . During that same time, Bresch went from being Mylan’s chief operating officer to president to chief executive and saw her pay rise $2,453,456 to $18,931,068, a 671% increase.

When Mylan first acquired Merck KGaA in 2007, Bresch oversaw the integration of its 400 products. Among those products was EpiPen, which is used to quickly deliver a proper dose of epinephrine to those suffering from anaphylaxis. Anaphylaxis is when an allergic reaction causes one’s airways to swell and close. In a 2015 interview with Fortune, Bresch described EpiPen as “my baby”. Under her management, EpiPen went from bringing in $200m a year in sales to becoming Mylan’s first billion-dollar product.

Following the outcry over the increase in EpiPen’s prices, Bresch, who is the daughter of West Virginia senator Joe Manchin, could be called on to justify Mylan’s pricing before the US Congress. Her father does not sit on the Senate judiciary committee, which would most likely hear her testimony.

Mylan has hiked prices of other products as well, according to a June report by a Wells Fargo senior analyst David Maris.


Source
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46552 Posts
August 24 2016 19:22 GMT
#96230
On August 25 2016 04:00 Nevuk wrote:
https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/768484490784206848


You mean Putin isn't a Chicago cop?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22667 Posts
August 24 2016 19:23 GMT
#96231
On August 25 2016 04:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2016 04:00 Nevuk wrote:
https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/768484490784206848


You mean Putin isn't a Chicago cop?

He never met Putin either.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46552 Posts
August 24 2016 19:27 GMT
#96232
On August 25 2016 04:23 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2016 04:22 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On August 25 2016 04:00 Nevuk wrote:
https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/768484490784206848


You mean Putin isn't a Chicago cop?

He never met Putin either.


In before Trump's "I did/ didn't/ did/ didn't ever meet Putin" ends up being clarified by "It was some other guy named Putin."

+ Show Spoiler +
Because Trump's always been a big fan of Putin Hisfootinhismouth.

+ Show Spoiler +
badum-tss...
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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9251 Posts
August 24 2016 19:28 GMT
#96233
The 'rough-tough guy' he was describing did sound more like a cartoon character than a real person
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-24 19:34:39
August 24 2016 19:33 GMT
#96234
On August 25 2016 04:28 Dan HH wrote:
The 'rough-tough guy' he was describing did sound more like a cartoon character than a real person


To be fair, I think almost any person Trump describes seems more like a cartoon character than a real person. "Lyin Ted" or "Lil' Marco" or "Crooked Hillary" are all just cartoons, I don't think he believes other human beings have any nuance really.

On another note, Gary Johnson has now called Trump a fascist. I wonder how much of it is targeted marketing ploy.

This resulted in me stumbling upon when he called Trump a pussy which is just hilarious (also go him for climbing the tallest mountain on each continent). Hope we see some counter-tweets, but I think Trump has lost the twitter privileges for the past two days after that stupid tweet the day after his new campaign staffer said he doesn't insult people.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-24 19:35:05
August 24 2016 19:34 GMT
#96235
rofl i didnt know trump tweeted this 2 years ago



a true classic
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 24 2016 19:34 GMT
#96236
On August 25 2016 04:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
The executive of the pharmaceutical company that hiked the prices of two dozen drugs, including EpiPen, received a 671% pay increase over the past nine years.

Heather Bresch, chief executive officer of Mylan, came under public scrutiny this week after reports that since acquiring rights to EpiPen in 2007, the company had implemented a series of gradual price increases inflating the price of the drug from $56.64 to $317.82, a 461% increase in cost . During that same time, Bresch went from being Mylan’s chief operating officer to president to chief executive and saw her pay rise $2,453,456 to $18,931,068, a 671% increase.

When Mylan first acquired Merck KGaA in 2007, Bresch oversaw the integration of its 400 products. Among those products was EpiPen, which is used to quickly deliver a proper dose of epinephrine to those suffering from anaphylaxis. Anaphylaxis is when an allergic reaction causes one’s airways to swell and close. In a 2015 interview with Fortune, Bresch described EpiPen as “my baby”. Under her management, EpiPen went from bringing in $200m a year in sales to becoming Mylan’s first billion-dollar product.

Following the outcry over the increase in EpiPen’s prices, Bresch, who is the daughter of West Virginia senator Joe Manchin, could be called on to justify Mylan’s pricing before the US Congress. Her father does not sit on the Senate judiciary committee, which would most likely hear her testimony.

Mylan has hiked prices of other products as well, according to a June report by a Wells Fargo senior analyst David Maris.


Source

As someone who has to buy epi-pens, these people can fuck right off. They can legit serve jail time for this shit, because its criminal. This is the free market for evil and should be punished with a harsh hammer. Must be purchased because you will die without it does not mean it is an “in demand product”.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44393 Posts
August 24 2016 19:36 GMT
#96237
On August 25 2016 03:35 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Not sure why people keep saying he's a billionaire. His assertion that he's got money doesn't mean much. Till we see his taxes he's "alleged billionaire Donald Trump".

What you have to understand about Trump's business is that he doesn't own anything and he doesn't do anything. Trump steaks aren't steaks of Trump, or even steaks of Trump owned cattle. Trump steaks are some other dude's steaks from some other dude's cows in a business owned by them which simply licenses the word Trump from Trump. Same with his buildings etc, he doesn't finance them, it's other peoples' money, he just stamps the word Trump on them. That's why his businesses can go bankrupt so often without it impacting him and that's why it's been so difficult to estimate his net worth. It's why when he sued a journalist for saying his net worth was lower than he'd previously claimed Trump himself testified that his net worth varies daily as he values his own brand at several billion and would reappraise it depending upon how he feels about it that day. Incidentally he said that as part of his evidence that he really is as rich as he claims.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 24 2016 19:37 GMT
#96238
On August 25 2016 04:34 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2016 04:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The executive of the pharmaceutical company that hiked the prices of two dozen drugs, including EpiPen, received a 671% pay increase over the past nine years.

Heather Bresch, chief executive officer of Mylan, came under public scrutiny this week after reports that since acquiring rights to EpiPen in 2007, the company had implemented a series of gradual price increases inflating the price of the drug from $56.64 to $317.82, a 461% increase in cost . During that same time, Bresch went from being Mylan’s chief operating officer to president to chief executive and saw her pay rise $2,453,456 to $18,931,068, a 671% increase.

When Mylan first acquired Merck KGaA in 2007, Bresch oversaw the integration of its 400 products. Among those products was EpiPen, which is used to quickly deliver a proper dose of epinephrine to those suffering from anaphylaxis. Anaphylaxis is when an allergic reaction causes one’s airways to swell and close. In a 2015 interview with Fortune, Bresch described EpiPen as “my baby”. Under her management, EpiPen went from bringing in $200m a year in sales to becoming Mylan’s first billion-dollar product.

Following the outcry over the increase in EpiPen’s prices, Bresch, who is the daughter of West Virginia senator Joe Manchin, could be called on to justify Mylan’s pricing before the US Congress. Her father does not sit on the Senate judiciary committee, which would most likely hear her testimony.

Mylan has hiked prices of other products as well, according to a June report by a Wells Fargo senior analyst David Maris.


Source

As someone who has to buy epi-pens, these people can fuck right off. They can legit serve jail time for this shit, because its criminal. This is the free market for evil and should be punished with a harsh hammer. Must be purchased because you will die without it does not mean it is an “in demand product”.

It makes them very in demand products.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
August 24 2016 19:39 GMT
#96239
On August 25 2016 04:37 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2016 04:34 Plansix wrote:
On August 25 2016 04:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The executive of the pharmaceutical company that hiked the prices of two dozen drugs, including EpiPen, received a 671% pay increase over the past nine years.

Heather Bresch, chief executive officer of Mylan, came under public scrutiny this week after reports that since acquiring rights to EpiPen in 2007, the company had implemented a series of gradual price increases inflating the price of the drug from $56.64 to $317.82, a 461% increase in cost . During that same time, Bresch went from being Mylan’s chief operating officer to president to chief executive and saw her pay rise $2,453,456 to $18,931,068, a 671% increase.

When Mylan first acquired Merck KGaA in 2007, Bresch oversaw the integration of its 400 products. Among those products was EpiPen, which is used to quickly deliver a proper dose of epinephrine to those suffering from anaphylaxis. Anaphylaxis is when an allergic reaction causes one’s airways to swell and close. In a 2015 interview with Fortune, Bresch described EpiPen as “my baby”. Under her management, EpiPen went from bringing in $200m a year in sales to becoming Mylan’s first billion-dollar product.

Following the outcry over the increase in EpiPen’s prices, Bresch, who is the daughter of West Virginia senator Joe Manchin, could be called on to justify Mylan’s pricing before the US Congress. Her father does not sit on the Senate judiciary committee, which would most likely hear her testimony.

Mylan has hiked prices of other products as well, according to a June report by a Wells Fargo senior analyst David Maris.


Source

As someone who has to buy epi-pens, these people can fuck right off. They can legit serve jail time for this shit, because its criminal. This is the free market for evil and should be punished with a harsh hammer. Must be purchased because you will die without it does not mean it is an “in demand product”.

It makes them very in demand products.


Their demand inelastic. ez moneez gg no re.

KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44393 Posts
August 24 2016 19:39 GMT
#96240
On August 25 2016 04:37 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2016 04:34 Plansix wrote:
On August 25 2016 04:21 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
The executive of the pharmaceutical company that hiked the prices of two dozen drugs, including EpiPen, received a 671% pay increase over the past nine years.

Heather Bresch, chief executive officer of Mylan, came under public scrutiny this week after reports that since acquiring rights to EpiPen in 2007, the company had implemented a series of gradual price increases inflating the price of the drug from $56.64 to $317.82, a 461% increase in cost . During that same time, Bresch went from being Mylan’s chief operating officer to president to chief executive and saw her pay rise $2,453,456 to $18,931,068, a 671% increase.

When Mylan first acquired Merck KGaA in 2007, Bresch oversaw the integration of its 400 products. Among those products was EpiPen, which is used to quickly deliver a proper dose of epinephrine to those suffering from anaphylaxis. Anaphylaxis is when an allergic reaction causes one’s airways to swell and close. In a 2015 interview with Fortune, Bresch described EpiPen as “my baby”. Under her management, EpiPen went from bringing in $200m a year in sales to becoming Mylan’s first billion-dollar product.

Following the outcry over the increase in EpiPen’s prices, Bresch, who is the daughter of West Virginia senator Joe Manchin, could be called on to justify Mylan’s pricing before the US Congress. Her father does not sit on the Senate judiciary committee, which would most likely hear her testimony.

Mylan has hiked prices of other products as well, according to a June report by a Wells Fargo senior analyst David Maris.


Source

As someone who has to buy epi-pens, these people can fuck right off. They can legit serve jail time for this shit, because its criminal. This is the free market for evil and should be punished with a harsh hammer. Must be purchased because you will die without it does not mean it is an “in demand product”.

It makes them very in demand products.

The market will naturally select for an allergic population which also has disposable income.
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