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On August 01 2016 03:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:He's going to try and find a way out of the debates: Show nested quote +
The Commission on Presidential Debates is responding to Donald Trump and the Republican National Committee's complaints about the debate schedule with a message on Sunday: The schedule is set.
"The Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) started working more than 18 months ago to identify religious and federal holidays, baseball league playoff games, NFL games, and other events in order to select the best nights for the 2016 debates. It is impossible to avoid all sporting events, and there have been nights on which debates and games occurred in most election cycles. A debate has never been rescheduled as a result," the commission said in a statement.
Donald Trump and RNC officials have complained that two of the three scheduled presidential and one vice-presidential debates overlap with NFL games. Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort said their campaign staff would sit down with the Commission on Presidential Debates "in the next week or so" to discuss the debate schedule and RNC chairman Reince Priebus said last week that he believes the political parties should have more say in the general election debate schedule. On Sunday, Priebus added: "Certainly we're not going to agree with anything that our nominee doesn't agree with."
The bipartisan CPD selected the debate dates and locations in September of 2015. The NFL announced their regular-season schedule this April, though there's nothing at all unusual about games being scheduled on Sunday or Monday nights.
In 2012, each of the debates fell on football game days, though each debate had at least 58 million people watch each, with the first debate drawing nearly 70 million viewers.
"As a point of reference, in a four-year period, there are four general election debates (three presidential and one vice presidential), and approximately 1,000 NFL games," the commission said in its statement.
"The CPD selects the debate dates a year in advance in order for the television networks to have maximum lead time and predictability in scheduling these extremely important civic education forums. The CPD believes the dates for the 2016 debates will serve the American public well."
Though the debates were set well before Trump or Hillary Clinton became the nominees of their parties, Trump’s campaign has suggested the Clinton campaign manipulated the process to guarantee the debates would be seen by fewer people. This line of argument was made by Jason Miller, Trump’s senior communications adviser, on CNN on Sunday morning in an interview with “Reliable Sources” host Brian Stelter.
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There's no way he's trying to dodge the debates.
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On August 01 2016 02:57 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 02:55 KwarK wrote:
That doesn't even make sense. He surely means "the failure of our "leaders" to eradicate it", right? Twitter has its limits. He wants to give a cause for the failure.
Didn't consider that, not a twitter user. Still though, if I were a twitter user I would reword it until it made sense or just use a second tweet if necessary.
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Last time TMagpie made this point about Sanders and Trump being the same, he was met with a wall of criticism over his views that were based on factual comparison of the two candidates and how their ideas don't really mix. He stopped answering at that point. But hey, now he's making the same point again a little later, cause why change.
It's almost as if discussing online doesn't matter at all o/
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On August 01 2016 03:58 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 03:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:He's going to try and find a way out of the debates:
The Commission on Presidential Debates is responding to Donald Trump and the Republican National Committee's complaints about the debate schedule with a message on Sunday: The schedule is set.
"The Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) started working more than 18 months ago to identify religious and federal holidays, baseball league playoff games, NFL games, and other events in order to select the best nights for the 2016 debates. It is impossible to avoid all sporting events, and there have been nights on which debates and games occurred in most election cycles. A debate has never been rescheduled as a result," the commission said in a statement.
Donald Trump and RNC officials have complained that two of the three scheduled presidential and one vice-presidential debates overlap with NFL games. Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort said their campaign staff would sit down with the Commission on Presidential Debates "in the next week or so" to discuss the debate schedule and RNC chairman Reince Priebus said last week that he believes the political parties should have more say in the general election debate schedule. On Sunday, Priebus added: "Certainly we're not going to agree with anything that our nominee doesn't agree with."
The bipartisan CPD selected the debate dates and locations in September of 2015. The NFL announced their regular-season schedule this April, though there's nothing at all unusual about games being scheduled on Sunday or Monday nights.
In 2012, each of the debates fell on football game days, though each debate had at least 58 million people watch each, with the first debate drawing nearly 70 million viewers.
"As a point of reference, in a four-year period, there are four general election debates (three presidential and one vice presidential), and approximately 1,000 NFL games," the commission said in its statement.
"The CPD selects the debate dates a year in advance in order for the television networks to have maximum lead time and predictability in scheduling these extremely important civic education forums. The CPD believes the dates for the 2016 debates will serve the American public well."
Though the debates were set well before Trump or Hillary Clinton became the nominees of their parties, Trump’s campaign has suggested the Clinton campaign manipulated the process to guarantee the debates would be seen by fewer people. This line of argument was made by Jason Miller, Trump’s senior communications adviser, on CNN on Sunday morning in an interview with “Reliable Sources” host Brian Stelter.
Source There's no way he's trying to dodge the debates.
Trump is going to embarrass himself in a debate where he's going to be pinned down on policy issues and has to speak without rehearsing, I wouldn't put it past him.
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On August 01 2016 03:24 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 03:18 Ghostcom wrote:On August 01 2016 03:10 OtherWorld wrote:On August 01 2016 02:57 xDaunt wrote:On August 01 2016 02:55 KwarK wrote:
That doesn't even make sense. He surely means "the failure of our "leaders" to eradicate it", right? Twitter has its limits. He wants to give a cause for the failure. Did you just claim that incorrectly writing "weakness" (8 letters) instead of "failure" (7) is Twitter's fault? On August 01 2016 02:57 xDaunt wrote:Twitter has its limits. He wants to give a cause for the failure. Did you just skip the second (2.nd) sentence? No, but it doesn't change much. The second sentence is just a wild assumption over what he wanted to do, especially considering that in this context, it wouldn't be hard for people to deduce that the failure of our leaders is caused by them being weak.
It changes your post to a silly strawman... If you want to argue that the sentence carried the same contextual meaning whether or not failure or weakness was used (with failure being the grammatically correct), by all means do so.
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Another case of "can't guess if this is a fake account or not"
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United Kingdom13775 Posts
On August 01 2016 04:11 Nyxisto wrote:Another case of "can't guess if this is a fake account or not"
Besides the fact that you can check the name, he's retweeted memes in the past too. Bizarre but true.
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On August 01 2016 04:06 Nyxisto wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 03:58 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On August 01 2016 03:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:He's going to try and find a way out of the debates:
The Commission on Presidential Debates is responding to Donald Trump and the Republican National Committee's complaints about the debate schedule with a message on Sunday: The schedule is set.
"The Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) started working more than 18 months ago to identify religious and federal holidays, baseball league playoff games, NFL games, and other events in order to select the best nights for the 2016 debates. It is impossible to avoid all sporting events, and there have been nights on which debates and games occurred in most election cycles. A debate has never been rescheduled as a result," the commission said in a statement.
Donald Trump and RNC officials have complained that two of the three scheduled presidential and one vice-presidential debates overlap with NFL games. Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort said their campaign staff would sit down with the Commission on Presidential Debates "in the next week or so" to discuss the debate schedule and RNC chairman Reince Priebus said last week that he believes the political parties should have more say in the general election debate schedule. On Sunday, Priebus added: "Certainly we're not going to agree with anything that our nominee doesn't agree with."
The bipartisan CPD selected the debate dates and locations in September of 2015. The NFL announced their regular-season schedule this April, though there's nothing at all unusual about games being scheduled on Sunday or Monday nights.
In 2012, each of the debates fell on football game days, though each debate had at least 58 million people watch each, with the first debate drawing nearly 70 million viewers.
"As a point of reference, in a four-year period, there are four general election debates (three presidential and one vice presidential), and approximately 1,000 NFL games," the commission said in its statement.
"The CPD selects the debate dates a year in advance in order for the television networks to have maximum lead time and predictability in scheduling these extremely important civic education forums. The CPD believes the dates for the 2016 debates will serve the American public well."
Though the debates were set well before Trump or Hillary Clinton became the nominees of their parties, Trump’s campaign has suggested the Clinton campaign manipulated the process to guarantee the debates would be seen by fewer people. This line of argument was made by Jason Miller, Trump’s senior communications adviser, on CNN on Sunday morning in an interview with “Reliable Sources” host Brian Stelter.
Source There's no way he's trying to dodge the debates. Trump is going to embarrass himself in a debate where he's going to be pinned down on policy issues and has to speak without rehearsing, I wouldn't put it past him.
His campaign has been going on for about a year now and he's demolished his opponents every step of the way with his vague policies. I'm amused you think that suddenly the American people will see the flaws in his campaign if they haven't already seen it for the last year. This election is not about policies, it's about character assassination and anti establishment sentiments. keep underestimating him though.
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He's impressed his own audience and gotten them to the voting booth. He can't insinuate that Hillary is bleeding out of her orifices and impress the general election audience. I have a deep rooted belief that the American people collectively aren't yet that nuts
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On August 01 2016 03:23 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 03:19 LegalLord wrote:
FP is quite up there this time around. It's a shame that too many people buy into the charade that Hillary isn't god awful at FP, and the Republicans can only criticize Benghazi because they're even worse. Hillary is not going to fuck up the relations with Europe or Asia. Trump may well do so. Neither will be successful in the middle east because of how screwed up the entire region is and how hard it is to actually fight terrorist organizations.
Trump isn't great and the Republican Party is much worse, but I personally think that internationally the world will be worse off after a Hillary presidency. Her MidEast record of endless blunders speaks for itself and I wouldn't be surprised by another war. She did manage to aggravate tensions in border disputes in Asia, which is not terrible but far from good (Japan and China both have reason to dislike her, though China would prefer Hillary to Trade War Trump). Europe is far from monolithic and is likely headed for some significant political realignment so I really don't think anyone could predict how well that would go.
Long story short, on the FP front the choices are pretty bad.
On August 01 2016 04:17 Nyxisto wrote:
He's impressed his own audience and gotten them to the voting booth. He can't insinuate that Hillary is bleeding out of her orifices and impress the general election audience. I have a deep rooted belief that the American people collectively aren't yet that nuts
At this point the election could go both ways and the massive early advantage Hillary held has mostly evaporated.
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On August 01 2016 03:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:He's going to try and find a way out of the debates: Show nested quote ++ Show Spoiler +The Commission on Presidential Debates is responding to Donald Trump and the Republican National Committee's complaints about the debate schedule with a message on Sunday: The schedule is set.
"The Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) started working more than 18 months ago to identify religious and federal holidays, baseball league playoff games, NFL games, and other events in order to select the best nights for the 2016 debates. It is impossible to avoid all sporting events, and there have been nights on which debates and games occurred in most election cycles. A debate has never been rescheduled as a result," the commission said in a statement.
Donald Trump and RNC officials have complained that two of the three scheduled presidential and one vice-presidential debates overlap with NFL games. Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort said their campaign staff would sit down with the Commission on Presidential Debates "in the next week or so" to discuss the debate schedule and RNC chairman Reince Priebus said last week that he believes the political parties should have more say in the general election debate schedule. On Sunday, Priebus added: "Certainly we're not going to agree with anything that our nominee doesn't agree with."
The bipartisan CPD selected the debate dates and locations in September of 2015. The NFL announced their regular-season schedule this April, though there's nothing at all unusual about games being scheduled on Sunday or Monday nights.
In 2012, each of the debates fell on football game days, though each debate had at least 58 million people watch each, with the first debate drawing nearly 70 million viewers.
"As a point of reference, in a four-year period, there are four general election debates (three presidential and one vice presidential), and approximately 1,000 NFL games," the commission said in its statement.
"The CPD selects the debate dates a year in advance in order for the television networks to have maximum lead time and predictability in scheduling these extremely important civic education forums. The CPD believes the dates for the 2016 debates will serve the American public well."
Though the debates were set well before Trump or Hillary Clinton became the nominees of their parties, Trump’s campaign has suggested the Clinton campaign manipulated the process to guarantee the debates would be seen by fewer people. This line of argument was made by Jason Miller, Trump’s senior communications adviser, on CNN on Sunday morning in an interview with “Reliable Sources” host Brian Stelter. Source
The Trump campaign seems to be dedicated to repeating this obvious fabrication about the democrats rigging the debate schedule. Really shameless.
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So, what do people have for a write-in names list?
On occasion I consider who I'd write in if I wanted to do a write-in vote for president (including if I had somewhat different beliefs than I do now, i.e. republican candidates)
So far I've got FBI director Comey, and Jon Stewart (or whatever his non-stage name is, it wouldn't make so much sense to write his stage name on a ballot)
i'm also interested in other possible names people have to suggest
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I'm pretty sure Bernie Sanders will be the most popular write-in this time around.
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I know he was a part of Bush's administration and therefore not the most popular. But as far as moderate Republicans, what about Colin Powell- I guess he's the sort of Republican that the party has left behind, but he could be a level-headed with administrator and relatively corruption free (depends what you think of his involvement in the Iraq war.)
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On August 01 2016 04:24 zlefin wrote:
So, what do people have for a write-in names list?
On occasion I consider who I'd write in if I wanted to do a write-in vote for president (including if I had somewhat different beliefs than I do now, i.e. republican candidates)
So far I've got FBI director Comey, and Jon Stewart (or whatever his non-stage name is, it wouldn't make so much sense to write his stage name on a ballot)
I'd back you up on Director comey, he used to be a republican and seems to have more integrity in his pinky than both of these candidates combined.
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I am generally suspicious of law enforcement / intellegence / military types taking posts of high office. Some are good, most are dangerous and don't even realize it.
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On August 01 2016 05:10 LegalLord wrote:
I am generally suspicious of law enforcement / intellegence / military types taking posts of high office. Some are good, most are dangerous and don't even realize it.
In what way?
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On August 01 2016 05:11 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2016 05:10 LegalLord wrote:
I am generally suspicious of law enforcement / intellegence / military types taking posts of high office. Some are good, most are dangerous and don't even realize it. In what way?
The work tends to instill a confrontational 'us vs them' mentality. Not something you always want in politics.
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On August 01 2016 04:24 zlefin wrote:
So, what do people have for a write-in names list?
On occasion I consider who I'd write in if I wanted to do a write-in vote for president (including if I had somewhat different beliefs than I do now, i.e. republican candidates)
So far I've got FBI director Comey, and Jon Stewart (or whatever his non-stage name is, it wouldn't make so much sense to write his stage name on a ballot)
i'm also interested in other possible names people have to suggest
I believe he legally changed his name to Jon Stewart.
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