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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:55 Introvert wrote: Moderators are going to be in full on Hillary protection mode. More than Candy Crowley vs. Romney. It's going to be impressive. Given that you seem to be the only non-Trump conservative in this thread, who are you going to vote for? | ||
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Luolis
Finland7104 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:56 FiWiFaKi wrote: Well roughly half of the voters right now want Trump, so there's plenty of people to ask S: Yeah, i guess we go with "america is just weird" choice then :D | ||
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Mercy13
United States718 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:48 GGTeMpLaR wrote: This was not a strong speech at all confirms my belief that she's going to get rolled in the debates and Trump will be president for 4 years more Jill Stein being savage: She just isn't good at speechifying, but that really isn't a big part of being president. She's a much better debater. If nothing else, she knows more about any given topic than the person she is debating against. If the debates stick to policy (which I'll concede is an *if*) she'll beat the crap out of him. Our political system seems to reward people that are good at public communication. Hillary is bad at that, so she spent the last 4 years gathering endorsements from every significant Democrat constituency. If she wins, it will be interesting to see how her leadership style (emphasizing personal relationships) will contrast with a more traditional style like Obama's, which relies on appealing to the public. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:52 Vin{MBL} wrote: What's she going to do when Trump presses her on emails/saudi donations/DNC leaks etc? She's gotten an easy ride on some of these topics by avoiding press conferences. You could say the same for what happens when in a 1v1 debate Trump tries to dodge a policy question by giving a bullshit answer and gets called out for it by her. They both have really obvious weak spots. Personally I think they'll both possibly look awful. On emails I'm curious to hear myself, DNC leaks so far it doesn't look like it was at her direct bidding so it's honestly not really going to matter (hiring DWS on the other hand is just... so.... so dumb) , Saudi donations it's not like she controls who donates to her. I'm pretty sure there's better issues than those three to hit her on besides the emails. | ||
Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:56 GreenHorizons wrote: In the industry. Anyway, this is going poorly for Hillary. If this doesn't give her a noticable bump she's hosed. Guide to what the chants mean. Any sources else then a white square on a phone? | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:57 Luolis wrote: Yeah, i guess we go with "america is just weird" choice then :D That or you don't believe what Hillary and the establishment says. And they are not addressing the issues that you think are important. Also, these DNC speeches make it seem like women are slaves in the US. I don't know how "bad" it's in the southern US, but here in Canada, men and women are more or less equals in every way. | ||
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Introvert
United States4748 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:56 Nyxisto wrote: Given that you seem to be the only non-Trump conservative in this thread, who are you going to vote for? I'm not sure yet. Also, I live in CA so it doesn't matter as much. I was so excited for the primary to come to CA and not be over, where my vote might actually matter. Then it didn't. rip | ||
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oBlade
United States5571 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:59 FiWiFaKi wrote: That or you don't believe what Hillary and the establishment says. And they are not addressing the issues that you think are important. Also, these DNC speeches make it seem like women are slaves in the US. I don't know how "bad" it's in the southern US, but here in Canada, men and women are more or less equals in every way. They're painting a very dark picture of America, I'd say.j | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:59 FiWiFaKi wrote: That or you don't believe what Hillary and the establishment says. And they are not addressing the issues that you think are important. Also, these DNC speeches make it seem like women are slaves in the US. I don't know how "bad" it's in the southern US, but here in Canada, men and women are more or less equals in every way. You can believe Trump though. Mexico's gonna pay for it. #BelieveMe | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23209 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:58 Nakajin wrote: Any sources else then a white square on a phone? you have noticed they've been at strange times at least? | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
On July 29 2016 12:00 oBlade wrote: They're painting a very dark picture of America, I'd say.j Yes, you could say that. | ||
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Luolis
Finland7104 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:59 FiWiFaKi wrote: That or you don't believe what Hillary and the establishment says. And they are not addressing the issues that you think are important. And Trump addresses issues then? From what i've seen, he says whatever spit brings to his mouth (often times talking absolute bs) and talks over his previous statements so much that i'm not sure if even he knows what he really wants. To me it just seems like a sort of a dumb protest vote (kinda like Brexit) that might just result in shittier things for Americans. Luckily for me, i don't live in america, so it probably wont be that big of an effect on me. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Introvert
United States4748 Posts
Edit: "I believe in science." LOL. what a dumb line. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
On July 29 2016 12:01 Luolis wrote: And Trump addresses issues then? From what i've seen, he says whatever spit brings to his mouth (often times talking absolute bs) and talks over his previous statements so much that i'm not sure if even he knows what he really wants. To me it just seems like a sort of a dumb protest vote (kinda like Brexit) that might just result in shittier things for Americans. Luckily for me, i don't live in america, so it probably wont be that big of an effect on me. Immigration and protectionism are the two big ones imo. I think Brexit is a good choice btw, it'll just be costly short term. Hillary has jumped around on so many issues as well. Also, current gun rights are just fine, and I've made several posts in the gun thread using numbers to show that the people who are trying to change gun laws as not worth the trouble. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On July 29 2016 11:59 Introvert wrote: I'm not sure yet. Also, I live in CA so it doesn't matter as much. I was so excited for the primary to come to CA and not be over, where my vote might actually matter. Then it didn't. rip Yup | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On July 29 2016 12:03 FiWiFaKi wrote: Immigration and protectionism are the two big ones imo. I think Brexit is a good choice btw, it'll just be costly short term. Hillary has jumped around on so many issues as well. Hillary changes her opinion to track public opinion on most issues. | ||
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