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On July 29 2016 11:14 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2016 10:57 Doodsmack wrote:On July 29 2016 08:26 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 29 2016 08:21 Nevuk wrote:On July 29 2016 08:11 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 29 2016 08:05 Plansix wrote:
Side note: normally the call of votes would be stopped once the nominee reached the majority. The next state would pass and move to nominate. Rather than do that this year, every state voted and got to say something until Vermont, which when last. Then Bernie moved to close the vote an nominate Clinton. The DNC and him agreed that it was in the spirit of the convention to allow all the delegates to vote and have their say and his state could close it out.
There are some really nice, uplifting things happening at this event that are being over looked because cynicism and conspiracy theories seem to dominate everything. Come on, this was done purely to get more Bernie supports to like Hillary. It has nothing to do with being uplifting and happy. I wish you didn't try to defend Hillary and the DNC to the bone when she really doesn't deserve it. On July 29 2016 08:10 Nevuk wrote:I still think the arguments for why Guccifer 2.0 is a russian spy are the dumbest things not said by Trump this election cycle On July 29 2016 08:03 zlefin wrote:On July 29 2016 06:25 Slaughter wrote:
Apparently the DNC has been beating the RNC in TV viewers. Is that normal most years? I would have thought Trump would have swept the ratings. i dunno about normal; but Trump wasn't speaking most of the time. Maybe the DNC had better headliners? Much better, mainly due to the entertainment field being much more democrat aligned and due to a bunch of high name GOP-ers skipping out on the RNC A strategy to get eyes off of the things in the emails, and sadly I think it's working a bit. At the end of the day, I don't really think it matters if it was Russia, if it was some guy in his basement, a Trump supporter in the US, etc. We should judge the leaks at face value regardless of the source. @travis I agree. Yes, this election I do support Trump, and yes, the Bernie supporters are hurting Hillary's chances, but it's not a justification to remove them, and find other people and pay them to take their seat... Not to mention, specifically calling out to minorities. It's disgusting and propaganda at it's best. And you oblivious Hillary supporters have little issue with it because you don't like Trump, come on, evaluate what you're doing. Yeah, it's one of the few smart things Hillary's campaign has done this cycle. I just think the arguments are so bad they're kind of funny - it comes down to emoticon usage and grammar, neither of which are things hackers are known for using in a normal manner. I will admit it's a little puzzling that the media is running so hard with it when everyone that asks the FBI receives the "Uh, we're still looking into it, no clue who did it atm" response and no official source is backing the claim. This sort of counter strategy may be why wikileaks didn't dump all the emails at once initially. DWS not having been fired years ago is starting to be as big a mystery as Trump's success for me, personally. Yeah, it is a bit silly, but it's what people will eat up. The Trump message really got to me, and I thought news have always been absolute crap, especially when it was something subjective, but now... I dunno. I'm more likely to believe the opposite when reading the news now. Just seeing how easy it's to place pawns wherever you want to say what you want them to say. I've made my opinion that Trump would be good for America, and just because all media and almost all posters on the internet (recently me too I suppose, since an objective argument became impossible here for quite some time) became people just trying to trick you into voting for their nominee, listening to other people is futile at this point. So there is very little that Trump can do at this point for me to not support him, and likewise for Hillary. I still feel proud of the money I made on a bet with a friend that Trump would win the primaries like three weeks for the primaries began. I wont lie though, I did expect Trump to be beaten in a landslide by Hillary, and at times I was doubting supporting him, but he's really convinced me since the primaries ended. edit: I didn't know much about DWS until this debacle, but I wasn't aware that she was massive disliked or anything? At least you outright admit that your support for Trump is intertwined with your opinion on the media. It's just amazing to me that people with your mindset are willing to look past his lack of a plan or substance and just roll the dice with the presidency. What do you think Trump doesn't have a plan for that he should?
Go to his campaign website and look at the "Positions" section.
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Wow she got God to narrate her life!
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On July 29 2016 11:13 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2016 11:10 ticklishmusic wrote:On July 29 2016 11:04 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 29 2016 11:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Chelsea Clinton looks a little bit like Tiffany Trump lol I wonder which got payed more at their first job and what each did? I suspect it might not match our assumptions. you do realize tiffany trump graduated from upenn undergrad like 2 years ago, and chelsea started working after she got a masters from oxford right? and that mckinsey pretty much pays well to everyone Remind me what she did at her first job and how that masters degree was related?
lmao dude you dont know shit about how this works do you?
you can go work for MBB or any consulting firm with pretty much any degree. one of my friends was a spanish major and works there now. you just have to be good enough. i interviewed for a bunch of places, there were ppl with all sorts of backgrounds. all they had in common was they were smart as shit.
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On July 29 2016 11:16 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2016 11:14 oBlade wrote:On July 29 2016 10:57 Doodsmack wrote:On July 29 2016 08:26 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 29 2016 08:21 Nevuk wrote:On July 29 2016 08:11 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 29 2016 08:05 Plansix wrote:
Side note: normally the call of votes would be stopped once the nominee reached the majority. The next state would pass and move to nominate. Rather than do that this year, every state voted and got to say something until Vermont, which when last. Then Bernie moved to close the vote an nominate Clinton. The DNC and him agreed that it was in the spirit of the convention to allow all the delegates to vote and have their say and his state could close it out.
There are some really nice, uplifting things happening at this event that are being over looked because cynicism and conspiracy theories seem to dominate everything. Come on, this was done purely to get more Bernie supports to like Hillary. It has nothing to do with being uplifting and happy. I wish you didn't try to defend Hillary and the DNC to the bone when she really doesn't deserve it. On July 29 2016 08:10 Nevuk wrote:I still think the arguments for why Guccifer 2.0 is a russian spy are the dumbest things not said by Trump this election cycle On July 29 2016 08:03 zlefin wrote:On July 29 2016 06:25 Slaughter wrote:
Apparently the DNC has been beating the RNC in TV viewers. Is that normal most years? I would have thought Trump would have swept the ratings. i dunno about normal; but Trump wasn't speaking most of the time. Maybe the DNC had better headliners? Much better, mainly due to the entertainment field being much more democrat aligned and due to a bunch of high name GOP-ers skipping out on the RNC A strategy to get eyes off of the things in the emails, and sadly I think it's working a bit. At the end of the day, I don't really think it matters if it was Russia, if it was some guy in his basement, a Trump supporter in the US, etc. We should judge the leaks at face value regardless of the source. @travis I agree. Yes, this election I do support Trump, and yes, the Bernie supporters are hurting Hillary's chances, but it's not a justification to remove them, and find other people and pay them to take their seat... Not to mention, specifically calling out to minorities. It's disgusting and propaganda at it's best. And you oblivious Hillary supporters have little issue with it because you don't like Trump, come on, evaluate what you're doing. Yeah, it's one of the few smart things Hillary's campaign has done this cycle. I just think the arguments are so bad they're kind of funny - it comes down to emoticon usage and grammar, neither of which are things hackers are known for using in a normal manner. I will admit it's a little puzzling that the media is running so hard with it when everyone that asks the FBI receives the "Uh, we're still looking into it, no clue who did it atm" response and no official source is backing the claim. This sort of counter strategy may be why wikileaks didn't dump all the emails at once initially. DWS not having been fired years ago is starting to be as big a mystery as Trump's success for me, personally. Yeah, it is a bit silly, but it's what people will eat up. The Trump message really got to me, and I thought news have always been absolute crap, especially when it was something subjective, but now... I dunno. I'm more likely to believe the opposite when reading the news now. Just seeing how easy it's to place pawns wherever you want to say what you want them to say. I've made my opinion that Trump would be good for America, and just because all media and almost all posters on the internet (recently me too I suppose, since an objective argument became impossible here for quite some time) became people just trying to trick you into voting for their nominee, listening to other people is futile at this point. So there is very little that Trump can do at this point for me to not support him, and likewise for Hillary. I still feel proud of the money I made on a bet with a friend that Trump would win the primaries like three weeks for the primaries began. I wont lie though, I did expect Trump to be beaten in a landslide by Hillary, and at times I was doubting supporting him, but he's really convinced me since the primaries ended. edit: I didn't know much about DWS until this debacle, but I wasn't aware that she was massive disliked or anything? At least you outright admit that your support for Trump is intertwined with your opinion on the media. It's just amazing to me that people with your mindset are willing to look past his lack of a plan or substance and just roll the dice with the presidency. What do you think Trump doesn't have a plan for that he should? Go to his campaign website and look at the "Positions" section.
I have myself, what is he missing?
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Morgan Freeman narrating her biography is pretty good.
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On July 29 2016 11:17 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Morgan Freeman narrating her biography is pretty good.
The highlight of the night
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Also, lets be honest, the reason social issues are so at the forefront of these conventions is because those are the only issues where you can distill your policy into bite-sized chunks that will sway voters.
Realistically, most voters don't actually have the necessary background knowledge to actually evaluate someone's foreign or economic policy plan as actually being good or bad, so unless you ridiculously oversimplify your position or just spew populist junk that people want to hear, it's not a way to get votes with most of the public. You're only going to sway a very small number of people that way.
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On July 29 2016 11:17 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2016 11:16 Doodsmack wrote:On July 29 2016 11:14 oBlade wrote:On July 29 2016 10:57 Doodsmack wrote:On July 29 2016 08:26 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 29 2016 08:21 Nevuk wrote:On July 29 2016 08:11 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 29 2016 08:05 Plansix wrote:
Side note: normally the call of votes would be stopped once the nominee reached the majority. The next state would pass and move to nominate. Rather than do that this year, every state voted and got to say something until Vermont, which when last. Then Bernie moved to close the vote an nominate Clinton. The DNC and him agreed that it was in the spirit of the convention to allow all the delegates to vote and have their say and his state could close it out.
There are some really nice, uplifting things happening at this event that are being over looked because cynicism and conspiracy theories seem to dominate everything. Come on, this was done purely to get more Bernie supports to like Hillary. It has nothing to do with being uplifting and happy. I wish you didn't try to defend Hillary and the DNC to the bone when she really doesn't deserve it. On July 29 2016 08:10 Nevuk wrote:I still think the arguments for why Guccifer 2.0 is a russian spy are the dumbest things not said by Trump this election cycle On July 29 2016 08:03 zlefin wrote:On July 29 2016 06:25 Slaughter wrote:
Apparently the DNC has been beating the RNC in TV viewers. Is that normal most years? I would have thought Trump would have swept the ratings. i dunno about normal; but Trump wasn't speaking most of the time. Maybe the DNC had better headliners? Much better, mainly due to the entertainment field being much more democrat aligned and due to a bunch of high name GOP-ers skipping out on the RNC A strategy to get eyes off of the things in the emails, and sadly I think it's working a bit. At the end of the day, I don't really think it matters if it was Russia, if it was some guy in his basement, a Trump supporter in the US, etc. We should judge the leaks at face value regardless of the source. @travis I agree. Yes, this election I do support Trump, and yes, the Bernie supporters are hurting Hillary's chances, but it's not a justification to remove them, and find other people and pay them to take their seat... Not to mention, specifically calling out to minorities. It's disgusting and propaganda at it's best. And you oblivious Hillary supporters have little issue with it because you don't like Trump, come on, evaluate what you're doing. Yeah, it's one of the few smart things Hillary's campaign has done this cycle. I just think the arguments are so bad they're kind of funny - it comes down to emoticon usage and grammar, neither of which are things hackers are known for using in a normal manner. I will admit it's a little puzzling that the media is running so hard with it when everyone that asks the FBI receives the "Uh, we're still looking into it, no clue who did it atm" response and no official source is backing the claim. This sort of counter strategy may be why wikileaks didn't dump all the emails at once initially. DWS not having been fired years ago is starting to be as big a mystery as Trump's success for me, personally. Yeah, it is a bit silly, but it's what people will eat up. The Trump message really got to me, and I thought news have always been absolute crap, especially when it was something subjective, but now... I dunno. I'm more likely to believe the opposite when reading the news now. Just seeing how easy it's to place pawns wherever you want to say what you want them to say. I've made my opinion that Trump would be good for America, and just because all media and almost all posters on the internet (recently me too I suppose, since an objective argument became impossible here for quite some time) became people just trying to trick you into voting for their nominee, listening to other people is futile at this point. So there is very little that Trump can do at this point for me to not support him, and likewise for Hillary. I still feel proud of the money I made on a bet with a friend that Trump would win the primaries like three weeks for the primaries began. I wont lie though, I did expect Trump to be beaten in a landslide by Hillary, and at times I was doubting supporting him, but he's really convinced me since the primaries ended. edit: I didn't know much about DWS until this debacle, but I wasn't aware that she was massive disliked or anything? At least you outright admit that your support for Trump is intertwined with your opinion on the media. It's just amazing to me that people with your mindset are willing to look past his lack of a plan or substance and just roll the dice with the presidency. What do you think Trump doesn't have a plan for that he should? Go to his campaign website and look at the "Positions" section. I have myself, what is he missing?
Be honest man. Just look at it. He's shooting from the hip. Just look at his reversal on Russia today. You're rolling the dice with the presidency.
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On July 29 2016 11:17 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2016 11:13 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 29 2016 11:10 ticklishmusic wrote:On July 29 2016 11:04 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 29 2016 11:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Chelsea Clinton looks a little bit like Tiffany Trump lol I wonder which got payed more at their first job and what each did? I suspect it might not match our assumptions. you do realize tiffany trump graduated from upenn undergrad like 2 years ago, and chelsea started working after she got a masters from oxford right? and that mckinsey pretty much pays well to everyone Remind me what she did at her first job and how that masters degree was related? lmao dude you dont know shit about how this works do you? you can go work for MBB or any consulting firm with pretty much any degree. one of my friends was a spanish major and works there now. you just have to be good enough. i interviewed for a bunch of places, there were ppl with all sorts of backgrounds. all they had in common was they were smart as shit.
Something tells me your friend didn't clear $600k the first year with 0 experience? If he did, I think I understand your support of Clinton more.
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"Human rights are women's rights and women's rights are human rights"
They're saying that was a radical statement to make in 1995
in what 1995 are they living in jesus
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On July 29 2016 11:16 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2016 11:14 oBlade wrote:On July 29 2016 10:57 Doodsmack wrote:On July 29 2016 08:26 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 29 2016 08:21 Nevuk wrote:On July 29 2016 08:11 FiWiFaKi wrote:On July 29 2016 08:05 Plansix wrote:
Side note: normally the call of votes would be stopped once the nominee reached the majority. The next state would pass and move to nominate. Rather than do that this year, every state voted and got to say something until Vermont, which when last. Then Bernie moved to close the vote an nominate Clinton. The DNC and him agreed that it was in the spirit of the convention to allow all the delegates to vote and have their say and his state could close it out.
There are some really nice, uplifting things happening at this event that are being over looked because cynicism and conspiracy theories seem to dominate everything. Come on, this was done purely to get more Bernie supports to like Hillary. It has nothing to do with being uplifting and happy. I wish you didn't try to defend Hillary and the DNC to the bone when she really doesn't deserve it. On July 29 2016 08:10 Nevuk wrote:I still think the arguments for why Guccifer 2.0 is a russian spy are the dumbest things not said by Trump this election cycle On July 29 2016 08:03 zlefin wrote:On July 29 2016 06:25 Slaughter wrote:
Apparently the DNC has been beating the RNC in TV viewers. Is that normal most years? I would have thought Trump would have swept the ratings. i dunno about normal; but Trump wasn't speaking most of the time. Maybe the DNC had better headliners? Much better, mainly due to the entertainment field being much more democrat aligned and due to a bunch of high name GOP-ers skipping out on the RNC A strategy to get eyes off of the things in the emails, and sadly I think it's working a bit. At the end of the day, I don't really think it matters if it was Russia, if it was some guy in his basement, a Trump supporter in the US, etc. We should judge the leaks at face value regardless of the source. @travis I agree. Yes, this election I do support Trump, and yes, the Bernie supporters are hurting Hillary's chances, but it's not a justification to remove them, and find other people and pay them to take their seat... Not to mention, specifically calling out to minorities. It's disgusting and propaganda at it's best. And you oblivious Hillary supporters have little issue with it because you don't like Trump, come on, evaluate what you're doing. Yeah, it's one of the few smart things Hillary's campaign has done this cycle. I just think the arguments are so bad they're kind of funny - it comes down to emoticon usage and grammar, neither of which are things hackers are known for using in a normal manner. I will admit it's a little puzzling that the media is running so hard with it when everyone that asks the FBI receives the "Uh, we're still looking into it, no clue who did it atm" response and no official source is backing the claim. This sort of counter strategy may be why wikileaks didn't dump all the emails at once initially. DWS not having been fired years ago is starting to be as big a mystery as Trump's success for me, personally. Yeah, it is a bit silly, but it's what people will eat up. The Trump message really got to me, and I thought news have always been absolute crap, especially when it was something subjective, but now... I dunno. I'm more likely to believe the opposite when reading the news now. Just seeing how easy it's to place pawns wherever you want to say what you want them to say. I've made my opinion that Trump would be good for America, and just because all media and almost all posters on the internet (recently me too I suppose, since an objective argument became impossible here for quite some time) became people just trying to trick you into voting for their nominee, listening to other people is futile at this point. So there is very little that Trump can do at this point for me to not support him, and likewise for Hillary. I still feel proud of the money I made on a bet with a friend that Trump would win the primaries like three weeks for the primaries began. I wont lie though, I did expect Trump to be beaten in a landslide by Hillary, and at times I was doubting supporting him, but he's really convinced me since the primaries ended. edit: I didn't know much about DWS until this debacle, but I wasn't aware that she was massive disliked or anything? At least you outright admit that your support for Trump is intertwined with your opinion on the media. It's just amazing to me that people with your mindset are willing to look past his lack of a plan or substance and just roll the dice with the presidency. What do you think Trump doesn't have a plan for that he should? Go to his campaign website and look at the "Positions" section.
Damn, you know, I've been a supporter for all these months and never once took the time to look at his campaign website, thanks so much for explaining.
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Hopefully the best part is just about to happen 
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On July 29 2016 11:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
"Human rights are women's rights and women's rights are human rights"
They're saying that was a radical statement to make in 1995
in what 1995 are they living in jesus
hahahahah i was thinking the exact same thing. WTF
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Lie-con level: Rewrite history
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On July 29 2016 11:21 TheYango wrote:
Also, lets be honest, the reason social issues are so at the forefront of these conventions is because those are the only issues where you can distill your policy into bite-sized chunks that will sway voters.
Realistically, most voters don't actually have the necessary background knowledge to actually evaluate someone's foreign or economic policy plan as actually being good or bad, so unless you ridiculously oversimplify your position or just spew populist junk that people want to hear, it's not a way to get votes with most of the public. You're only going to sway a very small number of people that way.
Agreed, the conventions would be a total failure if they just projected spreadsheets to the crowd for four days. This is a strategy game forum, so it's understandable that we all want more substance-- it's important to put it in perspective of the general public.
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On July 29 2016 11:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
"Human rights are women's rights and women's rights are human rights"
They're saying that was a radical statement to make in 1995
in what 1995 are they living in jesus
You can hardly said that her speech in Beijing wasn't a influential speech, maybe "radical" is a bit exaggerated but the whole speech was pretty deceive for a UN speech especially in China.
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Alright Hillary Clinton's up let's see how she does
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On July 29 2016 11:28 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Alright Hillary Clinton's up let's see how she does
I have very low expectations.
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I've put my expectations out there, low as well
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On July 29 2016 11:11 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2016 11:07 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I simply don't agree with the direction of the US, the extreme focus on these social issues, and just having a very robot minded society. And the lets all be happy and all our problems will go away mentality is not a good one long term. There's a lot I disagree with Trump, but I stand with that bringing in refugees in from Syria and the like is the most suicidal thing a nation can do, and it's that short term thinking that makes me doubt so many decisions that Hillary makes. I can agree with this, I just don't feel that "pick the other guy cuz he's not the mainstream" is actually a good way to approach this kind of a decision. "Any answer is better than no answer" is really not a reasonable philosophy. A bad answer can be a lot worse than no answer.
Yep, I agree with you.
Back a little bit ago I think I was quite rational with this situation, but recently it's been the same arguments over and over, and also, I've been getting somewhat infuriated with Hillary supporters, and it's just draining.
Among the few key issues I side with Trump on, a big thing for me is just less government involvement like gun rights, which I've made clear in the gun thread, and I'm one of the only people that uses numbers there, to explain how it's not an issue. I know that's like the worst reason, but seeing these activists win, just bothers me. I'm not a US citizen, this won't effect me much, but seeing this short sighted movement sail through, which in my opinion has so little merit, but arguing it requires so much more energy than saying "women rights and human rights" for example.
I've lived in Slovakia earlier in my life, and visited countries like Russia, Ukraine, and China in my life... And just... I like the no bullshit system in some of these countries, it's not perfect, but some of those attributes could be borrowed. Every one of these speeches has sounded like a load of shit to me, I think some good military style discipline would do some good for the people. Right now it's people surrounded by a 20ft pillow wall of government aid and the government telling the people how to behave. I just want a "work hard, play hard" kind of place, where you take care of yourself and your family, and do things how you want to do them... Here at the DNC, they've been trying to bring unity that a lot of people don't want to be part of.
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