EPTThe white noise machines like Hillary used is a nice touch
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GreenHorizons
United States23908 Posts
The white noise machines like Hillary used is a nice touch | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On July 29 2016 06:23 Gorsameth wrote: I didnt mention the word apologize, I asked you what reasonable comment you expect. 'Bernie Sanders fought valiantly, and his supporters even more so. I am disappointed by the DNC's impartiality and we will be taking steps needed to correct it in the future, starting with the replacement of DWS" - some political bs, just don't ignore it. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22296 Posts
On July 29 2016 07:16 biology]major wrote: 'Bernie Sanders fought valiantly, and his supporters even more so. I am disappointed by the DNC's impartiality and we will be taking steps needed to correct it in the future, starting with the replacement of DWS" - some political bs, just don't ignore it. I am disappointed by the DNC's impartiality Cant really make a comment like that when they were knowingly doing it for you. Unless there are some emails in their where the Campaign told the DNC to remain impartial that argument is only going to stir up more problems. That is why they will most likely ignore it. When you cant say something positive about the situation that cant get twisted around on you its better to say nothing at all. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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On July 29 2016 07:08 GreenHorizons wrote: lol the DNC filled California's delegation with seat fillers. Outside of the political disagreements the level of propaganda employed at this convention has been impressive. The white noise machines like Hillary used is a nice touch I thought this was a joke/propaganda the first time I saw it but now it seems like it wasn't, lol http://imgur.com/a/yC1rf | ||
Falling
Canada11504 Posts
Wow. Y'all need a serious over haul of campaign financing and to hell with Citizens United. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 29 2016 07:33 travis wrote: I thought this was a joke/propaganda the first time I saw it but now it seems like it wasn't, lol http://imgur.com/a/yC1rf That is common for all televised broadcasts of any event. Every concert and award show you have ever seen live has "actors" in the front. Including the Oscars. Don't buy into GH conspiracy theorizing. On July 29 2016 07:34 Falling wrote: Wow. Y'all need a serious over haul of campaign financing and to hell with Citizens United. Trump said he wants to open it up further and remove the limits on private persons like himself for direct donations. The DNC and Clinton want to close it. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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On July 29 2016 07:38 Plansix wrote: That is common for all televised broadcasts of any event. Every concert and award show you have ever seen live has "actors" in the front. Including the Oscars. Don't buy into GH conspiracy theorizing. there is no conspiracy man, you can watch videos right now of the delegates showing it happening | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Gorsameth
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I think the bigger question is if the original delegates decided not to show up or if they were removed, and if so for what reason. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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On July 29 2016 07:44 Gorsameth wrote: Filling seats on the biggest night, the one where Hillary speaks is no big deal. I think the bigger question is if the original delegates decided not to show up or if they were removed, and if so for what reason. I mean just look for yourself https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153603623782077&id=545697076 Obviously their seats were taken away because they are Bernie supporters. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On July 29 2016 07:46 travis wrote: I mean just look for yourself https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153603623782077&id=545697076 Obviously their seats were taken away because they are Bernie supporters. Pathetic, simply pathetic, the length that this corrupt DNC establishment will go. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 29 2016 07:46 travis wrote: I mean just look for yourself https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153603623782077&id=545697076 Obviously their seats were taken away because they are Bernie supporters. That is because the the small group of California delegates have been unable to shut up for 3 nights and have been assholes during speech. Other delegates have complained. NPR reported on this during their politics podcast and morning news report. I guess the people running the event decided it enough was enough. This isn't' some conspiracy. This is a group of people who have been actively been disruptive for 3 nights and likely knew this was coming. And they do not represent the majority of Bernie supporters or even all of the California delegation. http://www.npr.org/podcasts/510310/npr-politics-podcast They talk about it toward the end. And they also talk about the 100 or so delegates that staged a walk out yesterday when Bernie called to nominate Hillary. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On July 29 2016 06:25 Slaughter wrote: Apparently the DNC has been beating the RNC in TV viewers. Is that normal most years? I would have thought Trump would have swept the ratings. i dunno about normal; but Trump wasn't speaking most of the time. Maybe the DNC had better headliners? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
There are some really nice, uplifting things happening at this event that are being over looked because cynicism and conspiracy theories seem to dominate everything. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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On July 29 2016 08:00 Plansix wrote: That is because the the small group of California delegates have been unable to shut up for 3 nights and have been assholes during speech. Other delegates have complained. NPR reported on this during their politics podcast and morning news report. I guess the people running the event decided it enough was enough. This isn't' some conspiracy. This is a group of people who have been actively been disruptive for 3 nights and likely knew this was coming. And they do not represent the majority of Bernie supporters or even all of the California delegation. http://www.npr.org/podcasts/510310/npr-politics-podcast They talk about it toward the end. And they also talk about the 100 or so delegates that staged a walk out yesterday when Bernie called to nominate Hillary. ugh, just ugh I guess that's what you think of democracy huh democracy is everyone chanting the same thing, everyone applauding at the same time, and everyone agreeing on all issues that's plansix's democracy fuck the millions of disenfranchised voters, it's ok to make up rules as we go along, as long as it makes our candidate look good. that's what it's about for you huh. I mean it certainly is what they think this is about, I guess you think that's what this is about too. I guess this is what a U.S. democrat looks like now | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On July 29 2016 08:03 zlefin wrote: i dunno about normal; but Trump wasn't speaking most of the time. Maybe the DNC had better headliners? Much better, mainly due to the entertainment field being much more democrat aligned and due to a bunch of high name GOP-ers skipping out on the RNC | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On July 29 2016 08:05 Plansix wrote: Side note: normally the call of votes would be stopped once the nominee reached the majority. The next state would pass and move to nominate. Rather than do that this year, every state voted and got to say something until Vermont, which when last. Then Bernie moved to close the vote an nominate Clinton. The DNC and him agreed that it was in the spirit of the convention to allow all the delegates to vote and have their say and his state could close it out. There are some really nice, uplifting things happening at this event that are being over looked because cynicism and conspiracy theories seem to dominate everything. Come on, this was done purely to get more Bernie supports to like Hillary. It has nothing to do with being uplifting and happy. I wish you didn't try to defend Hillary and the DNC to the bone when she really doesn't deserve it. On July 29 2016 08:10 Nevuk wrote: I still think the arguments for why Guccifer 2.0 is a russian spy are the dumbest things not said by Trump this election cycle Much better, mainly due to the entertainment field being much more democrat aligned and due to a bunch of high name GOP-ers skipping out on the RNC A strategy to get eyes off of the things in the emails, and sadly I think it's working a bit. At the end of the day, I don't really think it matters if it was Russia, if it was some guy in his basement, a Trump supporter in the US, etc. We should judge the leaks at face value regardless of the source. @travis I agree. Yes, this election I do support Trump, and yes, the Bernie supporters are hurting Hillary's chances, but it's not a justification to remove them, and find other people and pay them to take their seat... Not to mention, specifically calling out to minorities. It's disgusting and propaganda at it's best. And you oblivious Hillary supporters have little issue with it because you don't like Trump, come on, evaluate what you're doing. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 29 2016 08:05 travis wrote: ugh, just ugh I guess that's what you think of democracy huh democracy is everyone chanting the same thing, everyone applauding at the same time, and everyone showing support for the exact same person that's plansix's democracy fuck the millions of disenfranchised voters, it's ok to make up rules as we go along, as long as it makes our candidate look good. that's what it's about for you huh. I mean it certainly is what they think this is about, I guess you think that's what this is about too. I guess this is what a U.S. democrat looks like now That isn't millions of disenfranchised voters. That is a small group of people deciding that the best way to push their point of view is to act up on TV, interrupting the rest of the convention. I doubt these folks asked the voters in their region if this was ok or took a survey each morning. Democracy is about coming together and getting along for a period of time to accomplish something. These people did not want to get along, so after 3 days of that, they are not allowed in. I have not felt that their plan of being disruptive for the entire event was very good, but I felt it was within their right. Within limits. But after day three of interrupting speeches, other people got irritated and I also support their right to have a day of people who all want to be there. | ||
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farvacola
United States18857 Posts
On July 29 2016 08:05 travis wrote: ugh, just ugh I guess that's what you think of democracy huh democracy is everyone chanting the same thing, everyone applauding at the same time, and everyone showing support for the exact same person that's plansix's democracy fuck the millions of disenfranchised voters, it's ok to make up rules as we go along, as long as it makes our candidate look good. that's what it's about for you huh. I mean it certainly is what they think this is about, I guess you think that's what this is about too. I guess this is what a U.S. democrat looks like now yes, all U.S. democrats look like Plansix and necessarily agree with establishment tactics....come on dude, there's way more nuance here than you're pretending and it's all because Plansix and the convention seem to have riled you up. Literally every convention since television became popular has been nothing more than a mainline, inherently populist demonstration of what constitutes the party line in preparation for what is arguably the singularly most influential vote in US politics. Sure, there's a little more ridiculousness this year given the rise of Sanders, but this is really not some revelatory "oh the humanity" type demonstration unless you're like GH and those who bought something not being sold. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22296 Posts
On July 29 2016 08:10 Nevuk wrote: I still think the arguments for why Guccifer 2.0 is a russian spy are the dumbest things not said by Trump this election cycle Much better, mainly due to the entertainment field being much more democrat aligned and due to a bunch of high name GOP-ers skipping out on the RNC I think the big names are a logical difference for the viewership. On one side you have Trumps kids (who mind you made good speeches) and on the other you have had the first lady, one of the most popular recent presidents (Bill) and the current president. A lot more people are going to turn in for the latter then the former. | ||
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