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Hillary Clinton broke her silence on the FBI's investigation into her email system Friday, arguing FBI Director James Comey had simply been "speculating" when he testified before Congress that her private server was likely hacked by hostile agents.
"I just believed that the material that was being communicated by professionals ... they did not believe that it was [classified]," Clinton said during an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "I did not have a basis for second-guessing their conclusion and these [emails] were not marked. They were not marked."
Clinton's claim that nothing on her server was marked classified, which she repeated in a subsequent interview with NBC's Lester Holt Friday, was a direct contradiction to Comey's statement that his agents had indeed discovered three emails that bore classification markings.
"He clarified as to the State Department that the very few no more than three documents that they thought might have some kind of marking," Clinton said. "Two of them were the result of human error."
In defense of the FBI's discovery of the marked emails, State Department officials argued earlier this week that the markings had appeared on the documents by accident.
Clinton told Holt the FBI director had been "speculating" when he said her server was vulnerable to hackers.
"There is no evidence that the system was breached or hacked successfully," she said.
An ‘unarmed’ white teen was shot dead by police. His family asks: Where is the outrage?
Zachary Hammond was on a first date when he was fatally shot by a police officer in his car during a drug bust in South Carolina, his family says.
At the time the 19-year-old was shot and killed, his date, Tori Morton, was eating an ice cream cone, according to the family’s attorney, Eric Bland.
Morton, 23, was arrested and charged with possession of marijuana — all 10 grams of it — which, according to police, was the reason undercover agents set up the drug buy.
The official police report never mentioned the two gunshots that killed Hammond on July 26 in a Hardees parking lot. Seneca police say a second report — which has not been released to the public — details the officer’s account of the shooting.
Amid heightened scrutiny of fatal police shootings across the country, Hammond’s death has prompted numerous questions, few answers — and almost no national outrage.
More than a week after Hammond’s death, his family’s attorney says race is almost certainly playing a role in the disconcerting silence. Unlike the victims in the highest-profile police shootings over the past year — in cities from Ferguson and Cleveland to North Charleston and Cincinnati — Hammond was white.
An ‘unarmed’ white teen was shot dead by police. His family asks: Where is the outrage?
Zachary Hammond was on a first date when he was fatally shot by a police officer in his car during a drug bust in South Carolina, his family says.
At the time the 19-year-old was shot and killed, his date, Tori Morton, was eating an ice cream cone, according to the family’s attorney, Eric Bland.
Morton, 23, was arrested and charged with possession of marijuana — all 10 grams of it — which, according to police, was the reason undercover agents set up the drug buy.
The official police report never mentioned the two gunshots that killed Hammond on July 26 in a Hardees parking lot. Seneca police say a second report — which has not been released to the public — details the officer’s account of the shooting.
Amid heightened scrutiny of fatal police shootings across the country, Hammond’s death has prompted numerous questions, few answers — and almost no national outrage.
More than a week after Hammond’s death, his family’s attorney says race is almost certainly playing a role in the disconcerting silence. Unlike the victims in the highest-profile police shootings over the past year — in cities from Ferguson and Cleveland to North Charleston and Cincinnati — Hammond was white.
This "where is the outrage?" shit fundamentally misunderstands why the black community are angry. It is likely that in the case of this kid the police department already know they fucked up, talking heads on the news won't be claiming that he was a thug and probably deserved it anyway and that an inquiry may actually place some blame where it belongs so that changes can be made. Black protests aren't because they think black blood is special and needs to be protected, it's because the system fails them in a way that it does not fail white people. They're protesting injustice and a system that routinely lets them down, asking "well where are the protests for the times the system works?!?!" is a really stupid question. Whites have faith in the system because whites built the system to serve their needs, blacks, not so much, and with good reason.
An ‘unarmed’ white teen was shot dead by police. His family asks: Where is the outrage?
Zachary Hammond was on a first date when he was fatally shot by a police officer in his car during a drug bust in South Carolina, his family says.
At the time the 19-year-old was shot and killed, his date, Tori Morton, was eating an ice cream cone, according to the family’s attorney, Eric Bland.
Morton, 23, was arrested and charged with possession of marijuana — all 10 grams of it — which, according to police, was the reason undercover agents set up the drug buy.
The official police report never mentioned the two gunshots that killed Hammond on July 26 in a Hardees parking lot. Seneca police say a second report — which has not been released to the public — details the officer’s account of the shooting.
Amid heightened scrutiny of fatal police shootings across the country, Hammond’s death has prompted numerous questions, few answers — and almost no national outrage.
More than a week after Hammond’s death, his family’s attorney says race is almost certainly playing a role in the disconcerting silence. Unlike the victims in the highest-profile police shootings over the past year — in cities from Ferguson and Cleveland to North Charleston and Cincinnati — Hammond was white.
This "where is the outrage?" shit fundamentally misunderstands why the black community are angry. It is likely that in the case of this kid the police department already know they fucked up, talking heads on the news won't be claiming that he was a thug and probably deserved it anyway and that an inquiry may actually place some blame where it belongs so that changes can be made. Black protests aren't because they think black blood is special and needs to be protected, it's because the system fails them in a way that it does not fail white people. They're protesting injustice and a system that routinely lets them down, asking "well where are the protests for the times the system works?!?!" is a really stupid question. Whites have faith in the system because whites built the system to serve their needs, blacks, not so much, and with good reason.
They're angry about being stereotyped as thugs and criminals?
And because the system 'never works'?
University of Cincinnati police officer Raymond Tensing, 25, now faces life in prison for shooting Samuel DuBose, 43, on the evening of July 19, roughly two minutes after pulling him over for failure to display a front license plate.
WASHINGTON — The University of Cincinnati has agreed to pay $4.85 million to the family of an unarmed black man who was shot to death in July by one of its police officers, a settlement that also requires the college to provide an undergraduate education to his 12 children, create a memorial to him on campus and include his family in discussions on police reform.
It doesn't undo the crime that occurred but it seems like the system is working and serving justice here. We'll see how the trial goes I guess. I would be very shocked if he isn't tried as guilty.
Everyone is so quick to assume that the two recent killings will result in the Officers getting off free as well when in all likelihood, they'll be met with the full force of the law.
With regards to your argument that the system always works for whites because we 'whites built the system to serve whites, not blacks' (really Kwark?), let's see how it turned out in Zachary Hammond's case -
I have completed my review of the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division’s (SLED) investigation into the shooting death of Zachary Hammond on July 26, 2015 in Seneca, South Carolina. After careful consideration of the facts of the case, a thorough review of the State investigation, and an extensive review of all applicable law, I have determined that no criminal charges should be filed against Lt. Mark Tiller at the State level. I met with the Hammond family today and have informed them of this decision.
And if anything, the people should ask why more papers and news agencies are not reporting on these deaths. Get mad at the institutions for failing to bring this to the public, not the public for failing to know about it.
On July 11 2016 02:37 Plansix wrote: And if anything, the people should ask why more papers and news agencies are not reporting on these deaths. Get mad at the institutions for failing to bring this to the public, not the public for failing to know about it.
An ‘unarmed’ white teen was shot dead by police. His family asks: Where is the outrage?
Zachary Hammond was on a first date when he was fatally shot by a police officer in his car during a drug bust in South Carolina, his family says.
At the time the 19-year-old was shot and killed, his date, Tori Morton, was eating an ice cream cone, according to the family’s attorney, Eric Bland.
Morton, 23, was arrested and charged with possession of marijuana — all 10 grams of it — which, according to police, was the reason undercover agents set up the drug buy.
The official police report never mentioned the two gunshots that killed Hammond on July 26 in a Hardees parking lot. Seneca police say a second report — which has not been released to the public — details the officer’s account of the shooting.
Amid heightened scrutiny of fatal police shootings across the country, Hammond’s death has prompted numerous questions, few answers — and almost no national outrage.
More than a week after Hammond’s death, his family’s attorney says race is almost certainly playing a role in the disconcerting silence. Unlike the victims in the highest-profile police shootings over the past year — in cities from Ferguson and Cleveland to North Charleston and Cincinnati — Hammond was white.
This "where is the outrage?" shit fundamentally misunderstands why the black community are angry. It is likely that in the case of this kid the police department already know they fucked up, talking heads on the news won't be claiming that he was a thug and probably deserved it anyway and that an inquiry may actually place some blame where it belongs so that changes can be made. Black protests aren't because they think black blood is special and needs to be protected, it's because the system fails them in a way that it does not fail white people. They're protesting injustice and a system that routinely lets them down, asking "well where are the protests for the times the system works?!?!" is a really stupid question. Whites have faith in the system because whites built the system to serve their needs, blacks, not so much, and with good reason.
That is really quite presumptuous, to just assume that for white killings the system will work itself out, while for black killings the system is rigged and there's just a massive conspiracy to deny the truth. The data that is available (as posted by others earlier) does not seem to support that theory either, though I guess that's a conspiracy as well?
As for assuming that they are a thug: there have been too many cases where the media covered an "unarmed black man shot by police" where the situation involved potentially lethal provocation, that perhaps some people (both police and news watchers) start to be suspicious that any new situation is similar. I don't see that as unreasonable.
that many whites have faith in the system does not imply that their faith is not often misplaced... cuz police brutalize and kill whites inappropriately too
Here is an article that discusses some of the issues associated with Philando Castile in specific, and police stops in general. A few snippets:
When Philando Castile saw the flashing lights in his rearview mirror the night he got shot, it wasn't unusual. He had been pulled over at least 52 times in recent years in and around the Twin Cities and given citations for minor offenses including speeding, driving without a muffler and not wearing a seat belt.
He was assessed at least $6,588 in fines and fees, although more than half of the total 86 violations were dismissed, court records show.
Court records dating to 2002 show Castile, a 32-year-old school cafeteria supervisor, averaged more than three traffic stops per year and received citations for misdemeanors or petty misdemeanors.
Many charges were dismissed, but Castile pleaded guilty to some, mostly for driving after his license was revoked and driving with no proof of insurance. However, those two charges also were the most frequently dismissed, along with failing to wear a seat belt.
The records show no convictions for more serious crimes.
No recent information is available on the racial breakdown of drivers stopped or ticketed by police in Falcon Heights, the mostly white suburb where the shooting occurred, or in other Minnesota towns. Minnesota is not among the handful of states that require police to keep such data.
But in 2001, the Legislature asked for a racial profiling study and it fell to Kearney, then at the Institute on Race & Poverty at the University of Minnesota Law School, to conduct it. His study, using information supplied voluntarily by 65 law enforcement jurisdictions in the state, found a strong likelihood that racial and ethnic bias played a role in traffic stop policies and practices. Overall, officers stopped minority drivers at greater rates than whites and searched them at greater rates, but found contraband in those searches at lower rates than whites.
The analysis found the pattern was more pronounced in suburban areas. In Fridley, New Hope, Plymouth, Sauk Rapids and Savage combined, blacks were stopped about 310 percent more often than expected.
The St. Anthony Police Department, which employs the officer who shot Castile, did not participate in the study. St. Anthony officials have not commented on Castile's stop since shortly after the shooting.
The officer who shot Castile, Jeronimo Yanez, is Latino. His lawyer, Thomas Kelly, said Saturday that his client reacted to the fact that Castile had a gun, not his race, though Kelly would not discuss what led Yanez to initiate the traffic stop.
"Police understand the concerns about choices made about who gets stopped and what happens when they get stopped," said Darrel Stephens, executive director of the Major Cities Chiefs Association.
But the statistics can't simply be attributed to racial bias among police.
"When people call the police, they provide a description of somebody engaged in a crime. The police respond to those descriptions," said Stephens, a former Charlotte, North Carolina, police chief. "That counts for part of the disproportionality that we see in those numbers."
Last year, the President's Task Force on 21st Century Policing recommended police departments collect and analyze demographic data on all stops, searches and seizures.
Nationally, 13 percent of black drivers were pulled over at least once in 2011, compared with 10 percent of the white drivers, according to a survey by the U.S. Justice Department's Bureau of Justice Statistics.
The survey shows 68 percent of black drivers considered the stops legitimate compared with 84 percent of white drivers.
The precise reasons why certain motorists are pulled over more than others are difficult to identify, said Lorie Fridell, an associate professor of criminology at the University of South Florida, who trains police departments through a program called Fair and Impartial Policing.
"Our implicit biases are most likely to impact us when we're facing ambiguous situations," Fridell said. "A person reaching into a pocket is ambiguous. If I, as a white, middle-aged woman, reach into my pocket most people aren't going to experience fear. For a black male with dreadlocks, that ambiguous action would produce fear in many people."
Another one. I don't really agree with the analysis of this piece but it has good statistics to look at.
The Justice Department statistics, based on the Police-Public Contact Survey, show that "relatively more black drivers (12.8%) than white (9.8%) and Hispanic (10.4%) drivers were pulled over in a traffic stop during their most recent contact with police. It's worth noting, however, that American Indian drivers are even more likely to be pulled over (15 percent). And since these are only national-level figures, rates are likely to be higher or lower depending on local law enforcement practices.
People of different races get pulled over for different reasons. While speeding is the most common reason for a traffic stop among all races, white people (50.1 percent) are more likely to get pulled over for speeding than blacks (37.7 percent) or Hispanics (39.2 percent). Relative to other races, blacks are more likely to get pulled over for vehicle defects or record checks. Nearly five percent of blacks weren't given any reason for why they were stopped, compared with 2.6 percent of whites and 3.3 percent of Hispanics.
An ‘unarmed’ white teen was shot dead by police. His family asks: Where is the outrage?
Zachary Hammond was on a first date when he was fatally shot by a police officer in his car during a drug bust in South Carolina, his family says.
At the time the 19-year-old was shot and killed, his date, Tori Morton, was eating an ice cream cone, according to the family’s attorney, Eric Bland.
Morton, 23, was arrested and charged with possession of marijuana — all 10 grams of it — which, according to police, was the reason undercover agents set up the drug buy.
The official police report never mentioned the two gunshots that killed Hammond on July 26 in a Hardees parking lot. Seneca police say a second report — which has not been released to the public — details the officer’s account of the shooting.
Amid heightened scrutiny of fatal police shootings across the country, Hammond’s death has prompted numerous questions, few answers — and almost no national outrage.
More than a week after Hammond’s death, his family’s attorney says race is almost certainly playing a role in the disconcerting silence. Unlike the victims in the highest-profile police shootings over the past year — in cities from Ferguson and Cleveland to North Charleston and Cincinnati — Hammond was white.
This "where is the outrage?" shit fundamentally misunderstands why the black community are angry. It is likely that in the case of this kid the police department already know they fucked up, talking heads on the news won't be claiming that he was a thug and probably deserved it anyway and that an inquiry may actually place some blame where it belongs so that changes can be made. Black protests aren't because they think black blood is special and needs to be protected, it's because the system fails them in a way that it does not fail white people. They're protesting injustice and a system that routinely lets them down, asking "well where are the protests for the times the system works?!?!" is a really stupid question. Whites have faith in the system because whites built the system to serve their needs, blacks, not so much, and with good reason.
They're angry about being stereotyped as thugs and criminals?
University of Cincinnati police officer Raymond Tensing, 25, now faces life in prison for shooting Samuel DuBose, 43, on the evening of July 19, roughly two minutes after pulling him over for failure to display a front license plate.
WASHINGTON — The University of Cincinnati has agreed to pay $4.85 million to the family of an unarmed black man who was shot to death in July by one of its police officers, a settlement that also requires the college to provide an undergraduate education to his 12 children, create a memorial to him on campus and include his family in discussions on police reform.
It doesn't undo the crime that occurred but it seems like the system is working and serving justice here. We'll see how the trial goes I guess. I would be very shocked if he isn't tried as guilty.
Everyone is so quick to assume that the two recent killings will result in the Officers getting off free as well when in all likelihood, they'll be met with the full force of the law.
With regards to your argument that the system always works for whites because we 'whites built the system to serve whites, not blacks' (really Kwark?), let's see how it turned out in Zachary Hammond's case -
I have completed my review of the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division’s (SLED) investigation into the shooting death of Zachary Hammond on July 26, 2015 in Seneca, South Carolina. After careful consideration of the facts of the case, a thorough review of the State investigation, and an extensive review of all applicable law, I have determined that no criminal charges should be filed against Lt. Mark Tiller at the State level. I met with the Hammond family today and have informed them of this decision.
Wonder if the result would have been any different if he was black and there was focused media coverage resulting in public outrage
Making up quotes, attributing them to me and then refuting them is an ambitious debating strategy. It certainly looks a lot like you showed the person who said the system never worked for blacks a thing or two. Of course that person is actually you so you're just making yourself look like an idiot but still, good job.
Tell me, did you really think changing what I said to "the system never works for blacks", a claim that would need every innocent black man to be convicted and every guilty black man to be found innocent to be true, and then finding an example that disproved it would make you look good?
Why not just go back to finding indefensible things that nobody here posted on Twitter and arguing against those while demanding that we defend them? You might have more success with that. Or if that fails just post some more YouTube videos, that'll make you seem smart.
An ‘unarmed’ white teen was shot dead by police. His family asks: Where is the outrage?
Zachary Hammond was on a first date when he was fatally shot by a police officer in his car during a drug bust in South Carolina, his family says.
At the time the 19-year-old was shot and killed, his date, Tori Morton, was eating an ice cream cone, according to the family’s attorney, Eric Bland.
Morton, 23, was arrested and charged with possession of marijuana — all 10 grams of it — which, according to police, was the reason undercover agents set up the drug buy.
The official police report never mentioned the two gunshots that killed Hammond on July 26 in a Hardees parking lot. Seneca police say a second report — which has not been released to the public — details the officer’s account of the shooting.
Amid heightened scrutiny of fatal police shootings across the country, Hammond’s death has prompted numerous questions, few answers — and almost no national outrage.
More than a week after Hammond’s death, his family’s attorney says race is almost certainly playing a role in the disconcerting silence. Unlike the victims in the highest-profile police shootings over the past year — in cities from Ferguson and Cleveland to North Charleston and Cincinnati — Hammond was white.
This "where is the outrage?" shit fundamentally misunderstands why the black community are angry. It is likely that in the case of this kid the police department already know they fucked up, talking heads on the news won't be claiming that he was a thug and probably deserved it anyway and that an inquiry may actually place some blame where it belongs so that changes can be made. Black protests aren't because they think black blood is special and needs to be protected, it's because the system fails them in a way that it does not fail white people. They're protesting injustice and a system that routinely lets them down, asking "well where are the protests for the times the system works?!?!" is a really stupid question. Whites have faith in the system because whites built the system to serve their needs, blacks, not so much, and with good reason.
They're angry about being stereotyped as thugs and criminals?
And because the system 'never works'?
University of Cincinnati police officer Raymond Tensing, 25, now faces life in prison for shooting Samuel DuBose, 43, on the evening of July 19, roughly two minutes after pulling him over for failure to display a front license plate.
WASHINGTON — The University of Cincinnati has agreed to pay $4.85 million to the family of an unarmed black man who was shot to death in July by one of its police officers, a settlement that also requires the college to provide an undergraduate education to his 12 children, create a memorial to him on campus and include his family in discussions on police reform.
It doesn't undo the crime that occurred but it seems like the system is working and serving justice here. We'll see how the trial goes I guess. I would be very shocked if he isn't tried as guilty.
Everyone is so quick to assume that the two recent killings will result in the Officers getting off free as well when in all likelihood, they'll be met with the full force of the law.
With regards to your argument that the system always works for whites because we 'whites built the system to serve whites, not blacks' (really Kwark?), let's see how it turned out in Zachary Hammond's case -
I have completed my review of the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division’s (SLED) investigation into the shooting death of Zachary Hammond on July 26, 2015 in Seneca, South Carolina. After careful consideration of the facts of the case, a thorough review of the State investigation, and an extensive review of all applicable law, I have determined that no criminal charges should be filed against Lt. Mark Tiller at the State level. I met with the Hammond family today and have informed them of this decision.
Wonder if the result would have been any different if he was black and there was focused media coverage resulting in public outrage
Making up quotes, attributing them to me and then refuting them is an ambitious debating strategy. It certainly looks a lot like you showed the person who said the system never worked for blacks a thing or two.
You're right. That wasn't your argument.
Black protests aren't because they think black blood is special and needs to be protected, it's because the system fails them in a way that it does not fail white people. They're protesting injustice and a system that routinely lets them down, asking "well where are the protests for the times the system works?!?!" is a really stupid question. Whites have faith in the system because whites built the system to serve their needs, blacks, not so much, and with good reason.
I find it incredibly stupid for you to think that whites built a legal system to serve their needs and not so much blacks.
The legal system was built to protect all citizens equally. It's illegal to make such distinctions based on race in the current system.
Tell me, did you really think changing what I said to "the system never works for blacks", a claim that would need every innocent black man to be convicted and every guilty black man to be found innocent to be true, and then finding an example that disproved it would make you look good?
Why not just go back to finding indefensible things that nobody here posted on Twitter and arguing against those while demanding that we defend them? You might have more success with that. Or if that fails just post some more YouTube videos, that'll make you seem smart.
The rest of your post is just attacking me for showing the quality of the BLM protests and that what you idealize their message to be in a rational vacuum is not the same as what it actually is in practice.
On July 11 2016 03:01 kapibara-san wrote: that many whites have faith in the system does not imply that their faith is not often misplaced... cuz police brutalize and kill whites inappropriately too
that is, reform all police for everyone pls
Sure. But the fact remains that even if both are let down by the system the white community is more likely to complain to their politicians which comes back to faith in the system while the black community is jaded enough to realize that marching in the street and voting achieves far more than voting alone. Even after countless examples of police abuses I still pretty much believe that in an interaction with the police they'd probably decide the paperwork wasn't worth the effort involved in fucking with me cause I'm affluent and middle class enough to make a big deal out of it. I believe that means available to me within the system, contacting the media, politicians, seeking legal aid and so forth give me a degree of protection from the police. So to me protesting seems like a waste of time. Other people have a different experience.
An ‘unarmed’ white teen was shot dead by police. His family asks: Where is the outrage?
Zachary Hammond was on a first date when he was fatally shot by a police officer in his car during a drug bust in South Carolina, his family says.
At the time the 19-year-old was shot and killed, his date, Tori Morton, was eating an ice cream cone, according to the family’s attorney, Eric Bland.
Morton, 23, was arrested and charged with possession of marijuana — all 10 grams of it — which, according to police, was the reason undercover agents set up the drug buy.
The official police report never mentioned the two gunshots that killed Hammond on July 26 in a Hardees parking lot. Seneca police say a second report — which has not been released to the public — details the officer’s account of the shooting.
Amid heightened scrutiny of fatal police shootings across the country, Hammond’s death has prompted numerous questions, few answers — and almost no national outrage.
More than a week after Hammond’s death, his family’s attorney says race is almost certainly playing a role in the disconcerting silence. Unlike the victims in the highest-profile police shootings over the past year — in cities from Ferguson and Cleveland to North Charleston and Cincinnati — Hammond was white.
This "where is the outrage?" shit fundamentally misunderstands why the black community are angry. It is likely that in the case of this kid the police department already know they fucked up, talking heads on the news won't be claiming that he was a thug and probably deserved it anyway and that an inquiry may actually place some blame where it belongs so that changes can be made. Black protests aren't because they think black blood is special and needs to be protected, it's because the system fails them in a way that it does not fail white people. They're protesting injustice and a system that routinely lets them down, asking "well where are the protests for the times the system works?!?!" is a really stupid question. Whites have faith in the system because whites built the system to serve their needs, blacks, not so much, and with good reason.
That "blacks" are specially targeted by the police is nothing more than a left wing narrative to create histeria, that falls apart when you look at statistics, that are widely available, yet no media outlet reports them.
An ‘unarmed’ white teen was shot dead by police. His family asks: Where is the outrage?
Zachary Hammond was on a first date when he was fatally shot by a police officer in his car during a drug bust in South Carolina, his family says.
At the time the 19-year-old was shot and killed, his date, Tori Morton, was eating an ice cream cone, according to the family’s attorney, Eric Bland.
Morton, 23, was arrested and charged with possession of marijuana — all 10 grams of it — which, according to police, was the reason undercover agents set up the drug buy.
The official police report never mentioned the two gunshots that killed Hammond on July 26 in a Hardees parking lot. Seneca police say a second report — which has not been released to the public — details the officer’s account of the shooting.
Amid heightened scrutiny of fatal police shootings across the country, Hammond’s death has prompted numerous questions, few answers — and almost no national outrage.
More than a week after Hammond’s death, his family’s attorney says race is almost certainly playing a role in the disconcerting silence. Unlike the victims in the highest-profile police shootings over the past year — in cities from Ferguson and Cleveland to North Charleston and Cincinnati — Hammond was white.
This "where is the outrage?" shit fundamentally misunderstands why the black community are angry. It is likely that in the case of this kid the police department already know they fucked up, talking heads on the news won't be claiming that he was a thug and probably deserved it anyway and that an inquiry may actually place some blame where it belongs so that changes can be made. Black protests aren't because they think black blood is special and needs to be protected, it's because the system fails them in a way that it does not fail white people. They're protesting injustice and a system that routinely lets them down, asking "well where are the protests for the times the system works?!?!" is a really stupid question. Whites have faith in the system because whites built the system to serve their needs, blacks, not so much, and with good reason.
That "blacks" are specially targeted by the police is nothing more than a left wing narrative to create histeria, that falls apart when you look at statistics, that are widely available, yet no media outlet reports them.
You understand that YouTube has no value as a source, right? It feels like you don't but anyone familiar with YouTube's policies should know that they don't verify the content of videos uploaded and that literally anyone can make any claims they like in a YouTube video.
Hillary Clinton broke her silence on the FBI's investigation into her email system Friday, arguing FBI Director James Comey had simply been "speculating" when he testified before Congress that her private server was likely hacked by hostile agents.
"I just believed that the material that was being communicated by professionals ... they did not believe that it was [classified]," Clinton said during an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer. "I did not have a basis for second-guessing their conclusion and these [emails] were not marked. They were not marked."
Clinton's claim that nothing on her server was marked classified, which she repeated in a subsequent interview with NBC's Lester Holt Friday, was a direct contradiction to Comey's statement that his agents had indeed discovered three emails that bore classification markings.
"He clarified as to the State Department that the very few no more than three documents that they thought might have some kind of marking," Clinton said. "Two of them were the result of human error."
In defense of the FBI's discovery of the marked emails, State Department officials argued earlier this week that the markings had appeared on the documents by accident.
Clinton told Holt the FBI director had been "speculating" when he said her server was vulnerable to hackers.
"There is no evidence that the system was breached or hacked successfully," she said.
And he was. He even said he was speculating. He also said that there was not any way to verify it had been done, though made it clear it was very likely based on what they know.
An ‘unarmed’ white teen was shot dead by police. His family asks: Where is the outrage?
Zachary Hammond was on a first date when he was fatally shot by a police officer in his car during a drug bust in South Carolina, his family says.
At the time the 19-year-old was shot and killed, his date, Tori Morton, was eating an ice cream cone, according to the family’s attorney, Eric Bland.
Morton, 23, was arrested and charged with possession of marijuana — all 10 grams of it — which, according to police, was the reason undercover agents set up the drug buy.
The official police report never mentioned the two gunshots that killed Hammond on July 26 in a Hardees parking lot. Seneca police say a second report — which has not been released to the public — details the officer’s account of the shooting.
Amid heightened scrutiny of fatal police shootings across the country, Hammond’s death has prompted numerous questions, few answers — and almost no national outrage.
More than a week after Hammond’s death, his family’s attorney says race is almost certainly playing a role in the disconcerting silence. Unlike the victims in the highest-profile police shootings over the past year — in cities from Ferguson and Cleveland to North Charleston and Cincinnati — Hammond was white.
This "where is the outrage?" shit fundamentally misunderstands why the black community are angry. It is likely that in the case of this kid the police department already know they fucked up, talking heads on the news won't be claiming that he was a thug and probably deserved it anyway and that an inquiry may actually place some blame where it belongs so that changes can be made. Black protests aren't because they think black blood is special and needs to be protected, it's because the system fails them in a way that it does not fail white people. They're protesting injustice and a system that routinely lets them down, asking "well where are the protests for the times the system works?!?!" is a really stupid question. Whites have faith in the system because whites built the system to serve their needs, blacks, not so much, and with good reason.
That "blacks" are specially targeted by the police is nothing more than a left wing narrative to create histeria, that falls apart when you look at statistics, that are widely available, yet no media outlet reports them.
You understand that YouTube has no value as a source, right? It feels like you don't but anyone familiar with YouTube's policies should know that they don't verify the content of videos uploaded and that literally anyone can make any claims they like in a YouTube video.
Now thats a very grim look at things, sure thats correct but that doesnt mean that there arent some intelligent people on Youtube that are worth listening to.
An ‘unarmed’ white teen was shot dead by police. His family asks: Where is the outrage?
Zachary Hammond was on a first date when he was fatally shot by a police officer in his car during a drug bust in South Carolina, his family says.
At the time the 19-year-old was shot and killed, his date, Tori Morton, was eating an ice cream cone, according to the family’s attorney, Eric Bland.
Morton, 23, was arrested and charged with possession of marijuana — all 10 grams of it — which, according to police, was the reason undercover agents set up the drug buy.
The official police report never mentioned the two gunshots that killed Hammond on July 26 in a Hardees parking lot. Seneca police say a second report — which has not been released to the public — details the officer’s account of the shooting.
Amid heightened scrutiny of fatal police shootings across the country, Hammond’s death has prompted numerous questions, few answers — and almost no national outrage.
More than a week after Hammond’s death, his family’s attorney says race is almost certainly playing a role in the disconcerting silence. Unlike the victims in the highest-profile police shootings over the past year — in cities from Ferguson and Cleveland to North Charleston and Cincinnati — Hammond was white.
This "where is the outrage?" shit fundamentally misunderstands why the black community are angry. It is likely that in the case of this kid the police department already know they fucked up, talking heads on the news won't be claiming that he was a thug and probably deserved it anyway and that an inquiry may actually place some blame where it belongs so that changes can be made. Black protests aren't because they think black blood is special and needs to be protected, it's because the system fails them in a way that it does not fail white people. They're protesting injustice and a system that routinely lets them down, asking "well where are the protests for the times the system works?!?!" is a really stupid question. Whites have faith in the system because whites built the system to serve their needs, blacks, not so much, and with good reason.
That "blacks" are specially targeted by the police is nothing more than a left wing narrative to create histeria, that falls apart when you look at statistics, that are widely available, yet no media outlet reports them.
You understand that YouTube has no value as a source, right? It feels like you don't but anyone familiar with YouTube's policies should know that they don't verify the content of videos uploaded and that literally anyone can make any claims they like in a YouTube video.
Now thats a very grim look at things, sure thats correct but that doesnt mean that there arent some intelligent people on Youtube that are worth listening to.
Certainly. But then you can also find further evidence in more reputable places.
Plus it was linked by Gotunk, history says that makes it unlikely to be intelligent/unbiased/true
An ‘unarmed’ white teen was shot dead by police. His family asks: Where is the outrage?
Zachary Hammond was on a first date when he was fatally shot by a police officer in his car during a drug bust in South Carolina, his family says.
At the time the 19-year-old was shot and killed, his date, Tori Morton, was eating an ice cream cone, according to the family’s attorney, Eric Bland.
Morton, 23, was arrested and charged with possession of marijuana — all 10 grams of it — which, according to police, was the reason undercover agents set up the drug buy.
The official police report never mentioned the two gunshots that killed Hammond on July 26 in a Hardees parking lot. Seneca police say a second report — which has not been released to the public — details the officer’s account of the shooting.
Amid heightened scrutiny of fatal police shootings across the country, Hammond’s death has prompted numerous questions, few answers — and almost no national outrage.
More than a week after Hammond’s death, his family’s attorney says race is almost certainly playing a role in the disconcerting silence. Unlike the victims in the highest-profile police shootings over the past year — in cities from Ferguson and Cleveland to North Charleston and Cincinnati — Hammond was white.
This "where is the outrage?" shit fundamentally misunderstands why the black community are angry. It is likely that in the case of this kid the police department already know they fucked up, talking heads on the news won't be claiming that he was a thug and probably deserved it anyway and that an inquiry may actually place some blame where it belongs so that changes can be made. Black protests aren't because they think black blood is special and needs to be protected, it's because the system fails them in a way that it does not fail white people. They're protesting injustice and a system that routinely lets them down, asking "well where are the protests for the times the system works?!?!" is a really stupid question. Whites have faith in the system because whites built the system to serve their needs, blacks, not so much, and with good reason.
That "blacks" are specially targeted by the police is nothing more than a left wing narrative to create histeria, that falls apart when you look at statistics, that are widely available, yet no media outlet reports them.
You understand that YouTube has no value as a source, right? It feels like you don't but anyone familiar with YouTube's policies should know that they don't verify the content of videos uploaded and that literally anyone can make any claims they like in a YouTube video.
Now thats a very grim look at things, sure thats correct but that doesnt mean that there arent some intelligent people on Youtube that are worth listening to.
It is up to the poster to tell the thread why the youtube video is worth listening to and not just some rando from the internet.
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