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On June 19 2016 10:12 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 10:07 Toadesstern wrote:On June 19 2016 10:05 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 10:04 Toadesstern wrote:On June 19 2016 10:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 09:56 Toadesstern wrote:kind of hilarious comming from the right side considering all the shit about facebook and how censoring media is intolerable. But the other way around is just fine. Ban them all if you don't like what they write~ On June 19 2016 09:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
[...] Good riddance getting their press pass revoked. One is literal censorship, the other is revoking a press pass for incompetence in journalism. How is that even remotely similar? Does celebs weekly deserve a press pass if they want to right about the election? Is it censorship if we deny them? Cmon be smart and fair here even if you don't like trump that's a joke of an argument the guy is literally running for president. What if they're not allowed in the White House anymore if he so happens to win? Not everyone is entitled to be allowed into the White House. Are you paranoid of him revoking free press in America and seizing control in a tyrannical government? You said you think of WaPo as an attack-site. I'd say the same about most far right-wing media out there. Take Breitbart as an example. That's easily worse when it comes to bias and yet I'd still want them to get a press pass if they want to do their "journalism" no matter how much I don't like it Disagreements aside about which is better at controlling for bias, does Breitbart even have the same press passes W. Post does?
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On June 19 2016 10:10 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 10:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 09:58 Doodsmack wrote:On June 19 2016 09:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 04:53 Doodsmack wrote:
Let's talk about whether Trump's insinuation that Obama was on the side of the Orlando attacker was accidental. And whether the media put those words in his mouth as part of their leftist spin. I don't think it's even debatable. The W. Post wrote a headline accusing Trump of saying Obama was literally involved. Trump did no such thing. Trump accused him of siding with extremism because he's more concerned with attacking Trump and fighting 'islamophobia' after a violent terrorist attack than the perpetrators of the attack and islamoterrorism which is an actual problem. It's assbackwards and the W. Post is a joke to begin with. Good riddance getting their press pass revoked. Do you realize the problem with the bolded part You can bring a horse to water but you can't force it to drink. I'll pretend that made sense.
That would imply it made no sense to you which is both surprising and saddening if true.
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it's also not just the WashingtonPost
Among the news organizations whose reporters have been blacklisted: Gawker, BuzzFeed, Foreign Policy, Politico, Fusion, Univision, Mother Jones, the New Hampshire Union Leader, the Des Moines Register, the Daily Beast and Huffington Post.
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On June 19 2016 10:10 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 10:05 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 10:04 Toadesstern wrote:On June 19 2016 10:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 09:56 Toadesstern wrote:kind of hilarious comming from the right side considering all the shit about facebook and how censoring media is intolerable. But the other way around is just fine. Ban them all if you don't like what they write~ On June 19 2016 09:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
[...] Good riddance getting their press pass revoked. One is literal censorship, the other is revoking a press pass for incompetence in journalism. How is that even remotely similar? Does celebs weekly deserve a press pass if they want to right about the election? Is it censorship if we deny them? Cmon be smart and fair here even if you don't like trump that's a joke of an argument the guy is literally running for president. What if they're not allowed in the White House anymore if he so happens to win? Not everyone is entitled to be allowed into the White House. Are you paranoid of him revoking free press in America and seizing control in a tyrannical government? Yep. That how it starts. There are no rules that say the press has to be given access to the white house. He could just close down the press briefing room. And I have zero doubt in my mind he would and only only allow press to access the white house if he approved of their coverage. Breitbart gets a press pass. Vanity Fair gets one too. They would give on to Play Boy if they asked. They revoke the press passes for people, not entire news agencies.
I guess I can't really argue with you here. I'm just not really worried about it like you are I guess.
I'm surprised Breitbart has the same passes W. Post has though.
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On June 19 2016 10:14 Toadesstern wrote:it's also not just the WashingtonPost Show nested quote +Among the news organizations whose reporters have been blacklisted: Gawker, BuzzFeed, Foreign Policy, Politico, Fusion, Univision, Mother Jones, the New Hampshire Union Leader, the Des Moines Register, the Daily Beast and Huffington Post.
LOL oh no not BuzzFeed
What a madman
That's it you've convinced me to vote Hillary
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On June 19 2016 10:15 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 10:10 Plansix wrote:On June 19 2016 10:05 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 10:04 Toadesstern wrote:On June 19 2016 10:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 09:56 Toadesstern wrote:kind of hilarious comming from the right side considering all the shit about facebook and how censoring media is intolerable. But the other way around is just fine. Ban them all if you don't like what they write~ On June 19 2016 09:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
[...] Good riddance getting their press pass revoked. One is literal censorship, the other is revoking a press pass for incompetence in journalism. How is that even remotely similar? Does celebs weekly deserve a press pass if they want to right about the election? Is it censorship if we deny them? Cmon be smart and fair here even if you don't like trump that's a joke of an argument the guy is literally running for president. What if they're not allowed in the White House anymore if he so happens to win? Not everyone is entitled to be allowed into the White House. Are you paranoid of him revoking free press in America and seizing control in a tyrannical government? Yep. That how it starts. There are no rules that say the press has to be given access to the white house. He could just close down the press briefing room. And I have zero doubt in my mind he would and only only allow press to access the white house if he approved of their coverage. Breitbart gets a press pass. Vanity Fair gets one too. They would give on to Play Boy if they asked. They revoke the press passes for people, not entire news agencies. I guess I can't really argue with you here. I'm just not really worried about it like you are I guess. I'm surprised Breitbart has the same passes W. Post has though.
you say you're not really worried about it happening, I say it's literally happening right now and people are worried he won't undo it if he becomes president
On June 19 2016 10:15 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 10:14 Toadesstern wrote:it's also not just the WashingtonPost Among the news organizations whose reporters have been blacklisted: Gawker, BuzzFeed, Foreign Policy, Politico, Fusion, Univision, Mother Jones, the New Hampshire Union Leader, the Des Moines Register, the Daily Beast and Huffington Post. LOL oh no not BuzzFeed What a madman That's it you've convinced me to vote Hillary
sure, I just don't see a reason why you would want that slippery slope to begin with
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On June 19 2016 10:15 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 10:14 Toadesstern wrote:it's also not just the WashingtonPost Among the news organizations whose reporters have been blacklisted: Gawker, BuzzFeed, Foreign Policy, Politico, Fusion, Univision, Mother Jones, the New Hampshire Union Leader, the Des Moines Register, the Daily Beast and Huffington Post. LOL oh no not BuzzFeed What a madman That's it you've convinced me to vote Hillary
Buzz feed does pretty reasonable reporting. They straight up say that their click bait pays for the real reporting. They have said it in a ton of interviews about the site. The White House would give them a press pass.
And the fucking clown blacklisted Univision and Politico? What a fucking joke. Thin skinned baby who can't deal with the press. Can't even deal with Buzzfeed, but he expects us to send him to deal with other nations. What will he do if the British PM says something mean?
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trumpkins are adorable. wish we had a sanders vs trump election so the entertainment can be maximized.
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On June 19 2016 10:19 oneofthem wrote:
trumpkins are adorable. wish we had a sanders vs trump election so the entertainment can be maximized.
The lack of knowledge about how the basic press corps works shows a real deep understanding of US politics.
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On June 19 2016 10:18 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 10:15 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 10:14 Toadesstern wrote:it's also not just the WashingtonPost Among the news organizations whose reporters have been blacklisted: Gawker, BuzzFeed, Foreign Policy, Politico, Fusion, Univision, Mother Jones, the New Hampshire Union Leader, the Des Moines Register, the Daily Beast and Huffington Post. LOL oh no not BuzzFeed What a madman That's it you've convinced me to vote Hillary Buzz feed does pretty reasonable reporting. They straight up say that their click bait pays for the real reporting. They have said it in a ton of interviews about the site. The White House would give them a press pass. And the fucking clown blacklisted Univision and Politico? What a fucking joke. Thin skinned baby who can't deal with the press. Can't even deal with Buzzfeed, but he expects us to send him to deal with other nations. What will he do if the British PM says something mean?
Perhaps he would set up consequences for the British PM, for example, by taking away something that he valued.
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On June 19 2016 10:18 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 10:15 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 10:10 Plansix wrote:On June 19 2016 10:05 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 10:04 Toadesstern wrote:On June 19 2016 10:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 09:56 Toadesstern wrote:kind of hilarious comming from the right side considering all the shit about facebook and how censoring media is intolerable. But the other way around is just fine. Ban them all if you don't like what they write~ On June 19 2016 09:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
[...] Good riddance getting their press pass revoked. One is literal censorship, the other is revoking a press pass for incompetence in journalism. How is that even remotely similar? Does celebs weekly deserve a press pass if they want to right about the election? Is it censorship if we deny them? Cmon be smart and fair here even if you don't like trump that's a joke of an argument the guy is literally running for president. What if they're not allowed in the White House anymore if he so happens to win? Not everyone is entitled to be allowed into the White House. Are you paranoid of him revoking free press in America and seizing control in a tyrannical government? Yep. That how it starts. There are no rules that say the press has to be given access to the white house. He could just close down the press briefing room. And I have zero doubt in my mind he would and only only allow press to access the white house if he approved of their coverage. Breitbart gets a press pass. Vanity Fair gets one too. They would give on to Play Boy if they asked. They revoke the press passes for people, not entire news agencies. I guess I can't really argue with you here. I'm just not really worried about it like you are I guess. I'm surprised Breitbart has the same passes W. Post has though. you say you're not really worried about it happening, I say it's literally happening right now and people are worried he won't undo it if he becomes president Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 10:15 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 10:14 Toadesstern wrote:it's also not just the WashingtonPost Among the news organizations whose reporters have been blacklisted: Gawker, BuzzFeed, Foreign Policy, Politico, Fusion, Univision, Mother Jones, the New Hampshire Union Leader, the Des Moines Register, the Daily Beast and Huffington Post. LOL oh no not BuzzFeed What a madman That's it you've convinced me to vote Hillary sure, I just don't see a reason why you would want that slippery slope to begin with
I'm no more worried about this than I am worried about a democratic candidate attempting to take away the 2nd amendment to tyranically overthrow the government.
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On June 19 2016 10:19 oneofthem wrote:
trumpkins are adorable. wish we had a sanders vs trump election so the entertainment can be maximized.
I dunno if anything would beat Bernie running 3rd party and watching all the shillaries and berniebots destory each other.
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On June 19 2016 10:18 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 10:15 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 10:14 Toadesstern wrote:it's also not just the WashingtonPost Among the news organizations whose reporters have been blacklisted: Gawker, BuzzFeed, Foreign Policy, Politico, Fusion, Univision, Mother Jones, the New Hampshire Union Leader, the Des Moines Register, the Daily Beast and Huffington Post. LOL oh no not BuzzFeed What a madman That's it you've convinced me to vote Hillary Buzz feed does pretty reasonable reporting. They straight up say that their click bait pays for the real reporting. They have said it in a ton of interviews about the site. The White House would give them a press pass. And the fucking clown blacklisted Univision and Politico? What a fucking joke. Thin skinned baby who can't deal with the press. Can't even deal with Buzzfeed, but he expects us to send him to deal with other nations. What will he do if the British PM says something mean?
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It's funny because the left loves making jokes about his skin color then calling him a racist after judging him on the color of his skin.
(inb4 race isn't defined by skin color tryhards)
Also if BuzzFeez wants to be taken more seriously they should probably stop posting things like '27 questions black people have for white people' and 'check your privilege'. EVERYONE publishing clickbait does it for the money. This is a nobrainer. If you're going to sell-out for clickbait you are selling your journalistic integrity for cash that's how it works.
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On June 19 2016 10:26 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 10:18 Plansix wrote:On June 19 2016 10:15 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 10:14 Toadesstern wrote:it's also not just the WashingtonPost Among the news organizations whose reporters have been blacklisted: Gawker, BuzzFeed, Foreign Policy, Politico, Fusion, Univision, Mother Jones, the New Hampshire Union Leader, the Des Moines Register, the Daily Beast and Huffington Post. LOL oh no not BuzzFeed What a madman That's it you've convinced me to vote Hillary Buzz feed does pretty reasonable reporting. They straight up say that their click bait pays for the real reporting. They have said it in a ton of interviews about the site. The White House would give them a press pass. And the fucking clown blacklisted Univision and Politico? What a fucking joke. Thin skinned baby who can't deal with the press. Can't even deal with Buzzfeed, but he expects us to send him to deal with other nations. What will he do if the British PM says something mean? Perhaps he would set up consequences for the British PM, for example, by taking away something that he valued.
I'm sure you could think of something completely terrible and irrational he could do because the left is really good at that nowadays.
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On June 19 2016 10:22 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 10:19 oneofthem wrote:
trumpkins are adorable. wish we had a sanders vs trump election so the entertainment can be maximized. The lack of knowledge about how the basic press corps works shows a real deep understanding of US politics.
You act like the vast majority of voters in any democratic country are all perfect little examples of educated sunshine.
And that even then they aren't still vastly more educated than the rest of the world.
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On June 19 2016 10:26 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 10:18 Plansix wrote:On June 19 2016 10:15 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 10:14 Toadesstern wrote:it's also not just the WashingtonPost Among the news organizations whose reporters have been blacklisted: Gawker, BuzzFeed, Foreign Policy, Politico, Fusion, Univision, Mother Jones, the New Hampshire Union Leader, the Des Moines Register, the Daily Beast and Huffington Post. LOL oh no not BuzzFeed What a madman That's it you've convinced me to vote Hillary Buzz feed does pretty reasonable reporting. They straight up say that their click bait pays for the real reporting. They have said it in a ton of interviews about the site. The White House would give them a press pass. And the fucking clown blacklisted Univision and Politico? What a fucking joke. Thin skinned baby who can't deal with the press. Can't even deal with Buzzfeed, but he expects us to send him to deal with other nations. What will he do if the British PM says something mean? Perhaps he would set up consequences for the British PM, for example, by taking away something that he valued.
And then the PM still be from Britain and gives zero fucks about President Trump.
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On June 19 2016 10:30 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 10:26 oBlade wrote:On June 19 2016 10:18 Plansix wrote:On June 19 2016 10:15 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 10:14 Toadesstern wrote:it's also not just the WashingtonPost Among the news organizations whose reporters have been blacklisted: Gawker, BuzzFeed, Foreign Policy, Politico, Fusion, Univision, Mother Jones, the New Hampshire Union Leader, the Des Moines Register, the Daily Beast and Huffington Post. LOL oh no not BuzzFeed What a madman That's it you've convinced me to vote Hillary Buzz feed does pretty reasonable reporting. They straight up say that their click bait pays for the real reporting. They have said it in a ton of interviews about the site. The White House would give them a press pass. And the fucking clown blacklisted Univision and Politico? What a fucking joke. Thin skinned baby who can't deal with the press. Can't even deal with Buzzfeed, but he expects us to send him to deal with other nations. What will he do if the British PM says something mean? Perhaps he would set up consequences for the British PM, for example, by taking away something that he valued. I'm sure you could think of something completely terrible and irrational he could do because the left is really good at that nowadays.
Wouldn't it be a breath of fresh air to have a president who went to Cuba, found nobody to greet him at the airport, and flew Air Force One right back here?
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it's real unfortunate because both sanders and trump movement could be redirected to more productive ends and enemies with some more knowledge.
it's like people blaming various social groups when a natural disaster occurs in the olden days, the problem are real, but there is no solution. in this case, the problems are manmade, but it is not intentional malice.
the policy guys should be responding with a more realistic diagnosis of the problems. like hillary has a bit about reining in short term thinking in corporate governance. if there is a policy solution to that, it would be precisely the right remedy for the anxiety sandernistas and trumpkins feel. the financialization of the corporation as a piece of cash flow in the capital markets is a deep and long term problem. corporate strategy and decisions by management have bought about the fundamental changes in the economy. not even banks, outsourcing or mexicans. it's as simple as management innovations and lack of social cohesion and belonging of the managerial class.
i recommend http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8463.html
some see limiting competition, erecting barriers as the solution. but a profit maximizing corp in the protectionist case would simply act to accrue market power and not hire more. it's not like there are no solutions to the corporate culture/decisionmaking problem. radicals need to ditch the fluffy hegelian marxism and get more scientific about the situation.
get the right incentive structure for management, politicize the shareholder is everything maxim, and let u.s. corporations see global competition as the ultimate goal and increase long term investment in people and capital. that's the only way forward
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On June 19 2016 10:13 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 10:10 Doodsmack wrote:On June 19 2016 10:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 09:58 Doodsmack wrote:On June 19 2016 09:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 04:53 Doodsmack wrote:
Let's talk about whether Trump's insinuation that Obama was on the side of the Orlando attacker was accidental. And whether the media put those words in his mouth as part of their leftist spin. I don't think it's even debatable. The W. Post wrote a headline accusing Trump of saying Obama was literally involved. Trump did no such thing. Trump accused him of siding with extremism because he's more concerned with attacking Trump and fighting 'islamophobia' after a violent terrorist attack than the perpetrators of the attack and islamoterrorism which is an actual problem. It's assbackwards and the W. Post is a joke to begin with. Good riddance getting their press pass revoked. Do you realize the problem with the bolded part You can bring a horse to water but you can't force it to drink. I'll pretend that made sense. That would imply it made no sense to you which is both surprising and saddening if true.
Uh huh. I think you at least admitted Trump accused him of siding with extremism, which is good.
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On June 19 2016 10:49 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2016 10:13 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 10:10 Doodsmack wrote:On June 19 2016 10:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 09:58 Doodsmack wrote:On June 19 2016 09:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On June 19 2016 04:53 Doodsmack wrote:
Let's talk about whether Trump's insinuation that Obama was on the side of the Orlando attacker was accidental. And whether the media put those words in his mouth as part of their leftist spin. I don't think it's even debatable. The W. Post wrote a headline accusing Trump of saying Obama was literally involved. Trump did no such thing. Trump accused him of siding with extremism because he's more concerned with attacking Trump and fighting 'islamophobia' after a violent terrorist attack than the perpetrators of the attack and islamoterrorism which is an actual problem. It's assbackwards and the W. Post is a joke to begin with. Good riddance getting their press pass revoked. Do you realize the problem with the bolded part You can bring a horse to water but you can't force it to drink. I'll pretend that made sense. That would imply it made no sense to you which is both surprising and saddening if true. Uh huh. I think you at least admitted Trump accused him of siding with extremism, which is good.
He's prioritizing political correctness over national security.
That is the argument.
And if you accept that claim as true, then he is in-fact aiding extremism by literally fighting against backlash against extremism.
You don't have to accept the argument as true (you probably don't), but it's very clear that is the argument being made.
They played it like he was saying it was the 'Obama-did-Orlando' conspiracy. That is not journalism.
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