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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 19 2016 02:06 GMT
#81701
On June 19 2016 10:49 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2016 10:13 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On June 19 2016 10:10 Doodsmack wrote:
On June 19 2016 10:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On June 19 2016 09:58 Doodsmack wrote:
On June 19 2016 09:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On June 19 2016 04:53 Doodsmack wrote:
Let's talk about whether Trump's insinuation that Obama was on the side of the Orlando attacker was accidental. And whether the media put those words in his mouth as part of their leftist spin.


I don't think it's even debatable.

The W. Post wrote a headline accusing Trump of saying Obama was literally involved.

Trump did no such thing.

Trump accused him of siding with extremism because he's more concerned with attacking Trump and fighting 'islamophobia' after a violent terrorist attack than the perpetrators of the attack and islamoterrorism which is an actual problem.

It's assbackwards and the W. Post is a joke to begin with. Good riddance getting their press pass revoked.


Do you realize the problem with the bolded part


You can bring a horse to water but you can't force it to drink.


I'll pretend that made sense.


That would imply it made no sense to you which is both surprising and saddening if true.


Uh huh. I think you at least admitted Trump accused him of siding with extremism, which is good.

that's because if you think Breitbart is more credible than the WashingtonPost when it comes to journalism you don't just admit it, you think so yourself. So there's no problem for him with that
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
June 19 2016 02:10 GMT
#81702
On June 19 2016 11:06 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2016 10:49 Doodsmack wrote:
On June 19 2016 10:13 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On June 19 2016 10:10 Doodsmack wrote:
On June 19 2016 10:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On June 19 2016 09:58 Doodsmack wrote:
On June 19 2016 09:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On June 19 2016 04:53 Doodsmack wrote:
Let's talk about whether Trump's insinuation that Obama was on the side of the Orlando attacker was accidental. And whether the media put those words in his mouth as part of their leftist spin.


I don't think it's even debatable.

The W. Post wrote a headline accusing Trump of saying Obama was literally involved.

Trump did no such thing.

Trump accused him of siding with extremism because he's more concerned with attacking Trump and fighting 'islamophobia' after a violent terrorist attack than the perpetrators of the attack and islamoterrorism which is an actual problem.

It's assbackwards and the W. Post is a joke to begin with. Good riddance getting their press pass revoked.


Do you realize the problem with the bolded part


You can bring a horse to water but you can't force it to drink.


I'll pretend that made sense.


That would imply it made no sense to you which is both surprising and saddening if true.


Uh huh. I think you at least admitted Trump accused him of siding with extremism, which is good.

that's because if you think Breitbart is more credible than the WashingtonPost when it comes to journalism you don't just admit it, you think so yourself. So there's no problem for him with that


This is why 90% of political arguments are just the two sides talking over each other and not to each other.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
June 19 2016 02:25 GMT
#81703
That's only because most reasonable people come to agreements or understandings pretty quick; so most arguments end up involving at least one unreasonable person, especially on the internet.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-19 02:29:54
June 19 2016 02:28 GMT
#81704
I mean, through all this we should keep in mind one of the central problems with Trump's statements on Orlando was that he suggested Obama should step down from his office as president because he didn't use the phrase "radical Islam" in a speech Obama gave before ISIS had claimed responsibility for the attacks and investigations were still in early phases. Which suggests either Trump did not do his research on when the speech was given or thinks we should assign blame before briefings have made it clear.

Everything else about how you interpret his statements, whatever. But that statement alone is pretty good evidence of faulty logic and/or a misunderstanding of how to react as President in the immediate aftermath of tragedies-it's more important to reassure the public in initial statements and discuss what little we know rather than point fingers at villains and end up burned in the aftermath (this was the entire PROBLEM with the way the administration handled Benghazi, actually).
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
June 19 2016 02:30 GMT
#81705
On June 19 2016 11:25 zlefin wrote:
That's only because most reasonable people come to agreements or understandings pretty quick; so most arguments end up involving at least one unreasonable person, especially on the internet.


I would say that is largely dependent on the nature of the topic at hand, and that for most meaningful topics worth discussing, it couldn't be further from the truth to say they are solved quickly or easily.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
June 19 2016 02:31 GMT
#81706
On June 19 2016 11:04 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2016 10:49 Doodsmack wrote:
On June 19 2016 10:13 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On June 19 2016 10:10 Doodsmack wrote:
On June 19 2016 10:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On June 19 2016 09:58 Doodsmack wrote:
On June 19 2016 09:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On June 19 2016 04:53 Doodsmack wrote:
Let's talk about whether Trump's insinuation that Obama was on the side of the Orlando attacker was accidental. And whether the media put those words in his mouth as part of their leftist spin.


I don't think it's even debatable.

The W. Post wrote a headline accusing Trump of saying Obama was literally involved.

Trump did no such thing.

Trump accused him of siding with extremism because he's more concerned with attacking Trump and fighting 'islamophobia' after a violent terrorist attack than the perpetrators of the attack and islamoterrorism which is an actual problem.

It's assbackwards and the W. Post is a joke to begin with. Good riddance getting their press pass revoked.


Do you realize the problem with the bolded part


You can bring a horse to water but you can't force it to drink.


I'll pretend that made sense.


That would imply it made no sense to you which is both surprising and saddening if true.


Uh huh. I think you at least admitted Trump accused him of siding with extremism, which is good.


He's prioritizing political correctness over national security.

That is the argument.

And if you accept that claim as true, then he is in-fact aiding extremism by literally fighting against backlash against extremism.

You don't have to accept the argument as true (you probably don't), but it's very clear that is the argument being made.

They played it like he was saying it was the 'Obama-did-Orlando' conspiracy. That is not journalism.


Just realize Obama isn't siding with terrorism, and Trump shouldn't use that language.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
June 19 2016 02:33 GMT
#81707
On June 19 2016 11:31 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2016 11:04 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On June 19 2016 10:49 Doodsmack wrote:
On June 19 2016 10:13 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On June 19 2016 10:10 Doodsmack wrote:
On June 19 2016 10:01 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On June 19 2016 09:58 Doodsmack wrote:
On June 19 2016 09:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On June 19 2016 04:53 Doodsmack wrote:
Let's talk about whether Trump's insinuation that Obama was on the side of the Orlando attacker was accidental. And whether the media put those words in his mouth as part of their leftist spin.


I don't think it's even debatable.

The W. Post wrote a headline accusing Trump of saying Obama was literally involved.

Trump did no such thing.

Trump accused him of siding with extremism because he's more concerned with attacking Trump and fighting 'islamophobia' after a violent terrorist attack than the perpetrators of the attack and islamoterrorism which is an actual problem.

It's assbackwards and the W. Post is a joke to begin with. Good riddance getting their press pass revoked.


Do you realize the problem with the bolded part


You can bring a horse to water but you can't force it to drink.


I'll pretend that made sense.


That would imply it made no sense to you which is both surprising and saddening if true.


Uh huh. I think you at least admitted Trump accused him of siding with extremism, which is good.


He's prioritizing political correctness over national security.

That is the argument.

And if you accept that claim as true, then he is in-fact aiding extremism by literally fighting against backlash against extremism.

You don't have to accept the argument as true (you probably don't), but it's very clear that is the argument being made.

They played it like he was saying it was the 'Obama-did-Orlando' conspiracy. That is not journalism.


Just realize Obama isn't siding with terrorism, and Trump shouldn't use that language.


Fair enough
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24491 Posts
June 19 2016 02:48 GMT
#81708
Just thought I'd mention the Washington state democratic party will be endorsing Bernie Sanders and only Bernie Sanders for president. Press release should be out soon if not already
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 19 2016 02:53 GMT
#81709
Donald Trump’s performance the past month — the countless controversies and continual taunts of the GOP establishment — is dramatically narrowing his options for vice president.

With the Republican convention a month away and Trump approaching a critical decision on his No. 2, each week crosses more names off the list. Trump has bashed star Republican Gov. Susana Martinez of New Mexico and ignored the advice of senators like Bob Corker of Tennessee, who might have brought valuable foreign policy and congressional experience to the ticket. Florida Sen. Marco Rubio has ruled out the post (even as he reconsiders running for reelection), while South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley and Iowa Sen. Joni Ernst — both well-regarded GOP figures who might improve Trump’s dismal standing among women and minorities — have all but done the same.

And Gov. John Kasich, who might have helped Trump in must-win Ohio and heal wounds with the party establishment, can’t even bring himself to support the presumptive nominee.

“It’s not going to make it easier” to select a running mate, Sen. John Thune of South Dakota said of Trump’s recent behavior. The Senate’s No. 3 Republican, Thune himself has been mentioned as a potential running mate. “There are probably some good options for him. The question is: Are there people for whom he is a good option?”

John Weaver, who served as the campaign strategist for Kasich’s presidential bid, was more blunt: “I can't imagine a truly credible person agreeing to be his running mate, because it would be the end of his or her political career.”

Ironically, the presumptive nominee’s own toxicity is making the job of finding a vice presidential nominee that much easier, because the short list is so short. Multiple high-level Republican sources said it is topped by New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, with Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions a distant third and Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin also in the mix.


Source
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-19 03:14:17
June 19 2016 03:10 GMT
#81710
On June 19 2016 11:28 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I mean, through all this we should keep in mind one of the central problems with Trump's statements on Orlando was that he suggested Obama should step down from his office as president because he didn't use the phrase "radical Islam" in a speech Obama gave before ISIS had claimed responsibility for the attacks and investigations were still in early phases. Which suggests either Trump did not do his research on when the speech was given or thinks we should assign blame before briefings have made it clear.

Everything else about how you interpret his statements, whatever. But that statement alone is pretty good evidence of faulty logic and/or a misunderstanding of how to react as President in the immediate aftermath of tragedies-it's more important to reassure the public in initial statements and discuss what little we know rather than point fingers at villains and end up burned in the aftermath (this was the entire PROBLEM with the way the administration handled Benghazi, actually).



according to NPR the investigator's are saying that this follows much more closely a non radicalized mass shooter as opposed to an ISIS radicalized attack. interesting read. but yeah I'm pretty sure the FBI didn't have anything confirmed at the time of the speech so it's a really bad thing to attack. Better to wait than possibly have something like the

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/06/18/482621690/investigators-say-orlando-shooter-showed-few-warning-signs-of-radicalization

not sure if this has been shared before. so sry if it has been
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24491 Posts
June 19 2016 03:30 GMT
#81711
On June 19 2016 11:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
Just thought I'd mention the Washington state democratic party will be endorsing Bernie Sanders and only Bernie Sanders for president. Press release should be out soon if not already


Here's the resolution as voted on for those curious.

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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-19 03:34:43
June 19 2016 03:33 GMT
#81712
On June 19 2016 11:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
Just thought I'd mention the Washington state democratic party will be endorsing Bernie Sanders and only Bernie Sanders for president. Press release should be out soon if not already


After his supporters changed the convention rules (which included various missteps, like first having to change it from 50% of all delegates voting yea to 50% of attending delegates voting yea). Which is fine, though the booing Jeff Merkley part wasn't cool.

And in the grand scheme it really doesn't matter because, y'know, he kinda lost the nomination and all the primaries and caucuses already happened.
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kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-19 03:44:27
June 19 2016 03:43 GMT
#81713
On June 19 2016 12:33 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2016 11:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
Just thought I'd mention the Washington state democratic party will be endorsing Bernie Sanders and only Bernie Sanders for president. Press release should be out soon if not already

After his supporters changed the convention rules (which included various missteps, like first having to change it from 50% of all delegates voting yea to 50% of attending delegates voting yea). Which is fine, though the booing Jeff Merkley part wasn't cool.

And in the grand scheme it really doesn't matter because, y'know, he kinda lost the nomination and all the primaries and caucuses already happened.

Yeah, as someone said on reddit, that "resolution" is the equivalent of a participation trophy. It has no influence on anything, other than make Sanders delegates at the Washington convention feel good about themselves.
edit: also, they managed to slip a grammar mistake in there :p
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24491 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-19 03:52:03
June 19 2016 03:44 GMT
#81714
On June 19 2016 12:33 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2016 11:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
Just thought I'd mention the Washington state democratic party will be endorsing Bernie Sanders and only Bernie Sanders for president. Press release should be out soon if not already


After his supporters changed the convention rules (which included various missteps, like first having to change it from 50% of all delegates voting yea to 50% of attending delegates voting yea). Which is fine, though the booing Jeff Merkley part wasn't cool.

And in the grand scheme it really doesn't matter because, y'know, he kinda lost the nomination and all the primaries and caucuses already happened.

It wasn't a change of convention rules, it was a change of the wording of the resolution so that it was clear what was intended. The author of it was there and made clear that was the intent. It was a pain in the ass to get it done, but there were no rule changes regarding how it was passed.

Where and when was Merkley booed? If it was for saying to unite behind Hillary I think it's pretty obvious why it would get booed.

It means Washington Democrats won't be responsible for whatever Hillary does, that will be on her and the state parties that supported her. We have made it clear the (people of the) Democratic party of WA have made our choice and it's NOT Hillary.

EDIT: Also it encourages our super delegates to vote with the party they represent instead of against it.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 19 2016 03:50 GMT
#81715
Whatever makes those folks feel good. God knows that is what it is all about. Whatever petulant little victory they can squeeze out.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
June 19 2016 03:50 GMT
#81716
go neoliberalism crush the peasants
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-19 03:52:03
June 19 2016 03:51 GMT
#81717
On June 19 2016 12:44 GreenHorizons wrote:
It means Washington Democrats won't be responsible for whatever Hillary does, that will be on her and the state parties that supported her. We have made it clear the (people of the) Democratic party of WA have made our choice and it's NOT Hillary.

Wow, this almost sounds like a percentage majority of voters getting to make the decision for those who voted in the minority.

Like the rest of the election process.

Kudos for taking part in the American electoral system.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
June 19 2016 03:52 GMT
#81718
On June 19 2016 09:59 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2016 09:37 Danglars wrote:
Everybody I've talked to from NJ hates Trump for Atlantic City business. All these hopes are too far-out looking at things right now. I'm more looking at something like RCP's map and the fight of his life even in states Bush won easily.

It's definitely not the most likely state to be competitive for him, but he doesn't need it to win anyway. But RCP's map doesn't even follow their own polls. Graying Michigan and Georgia? It's not in the evidence so far that Clinton and Trump are in any danger there. AZ is a red staple and I don't see evidence yet that would reverse that, not sure why NH is marked toss-up either.

Show nested quote +
On June 19 2016 09:56 Toadesstern wrote:
On June 19 2016 09:44 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On June 19 2016 09:31 zlefin wrote:
W Post isn't a joke last I checked; it has its biases, but it's still a credible and decent place of journalism.
Do you have a quote of the exact headline the Post used? Trump certainly implied Obama may have been involved iirc


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/13/donald-trump-suggests-president-obama-was-involved-with-orlando-shooting/

You decide if that's a fair interpretation of what Trump was saying.

I consider it a website of campaign attack-ads, not a legitimate source of journalism.

kind of hilarious comming from the right side considering all the shit about facebook and how censoring media is intolerable.
But the other way around is just fine. Ban them all if you don't like what they write~
On June 19 2016 09:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
[...] Good riddance getting their press pass revoked.


But nobody's taking their right to publish - in fact, they've promised to cover Trump even more.
I'd give Trump AZ just knowing Hillary will continue her present course and alienate AZ voters. 45 to 41 Georgia is enough to convince me contested, Michigan is +/- five latest I saw, so I can see it gray at the moment.

On June 19 2016 10:14 Toadesstern wrote:
it's also not just the WashingtonPost
Show nested quote +
Among the news organizations whose reporters have been blacklisted: Gawker, BuzzFeed, Foreign Policy, Politico, Fusion, Univision, Mother Jones, the New Hampshire Union Leader, the Des Moines Register, the Daily Beast and Huffington Post.
It sounds like they were listing every outlet who had at least one reporter banned, to gain strength to oppose the move. I'm simply looking at the exact paragraph from your un-linked source.

On June 19 2016 10:18 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2016 10:15 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On June 19 2016 10:14 Toadesstern wrote:
it's also not just the WashingtonPost
Among the news organizations whose reporters have been blacklisted: Gawker, BuzzFeed, Foreign Policy, Politico, Fusion, Univision, Mother Jones, the New Hampshire Union Leader, the Des Moines Register, the Daily Beast and Huffington Post.


LOL oh no not BuzzFeed

What a madman

That's it you've convinced me to vote Hillary

Buzz feed does pretty reasonable reporting. They straight up say that their click bait pays for the real reporting. They have said it in a ton of interviews about the site. The White House would give them a press pass.

And the fucking clown blacklisted Univision and Politico? What a fucking joke. Thin skinned baby who can't deal with the press. Can't even deal with Buzzfeed, but he expects us to send him to deal with other nations. What will he do if the British PM says something mean?
Univision still employs Salinas and Ramos. They're what you see when you look up political hacks in the dictionary. Politico is biased in the normal trend these days and I don't recall any specific problems lately. If he's going to prevent any reporters at all from covering his events, the DNC latino mouthpiece is an obvious choice. I'm pretty curious who from Politico was banned.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-19 03:58:12
June 19 2016 03:57 GMT
#81719
On June 19 2016 12:44 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2016 12:33 ticklishmusic wrote:
On June 19 2016 11:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
Just thought I'd mention the Washington state democratic party will be endorsing Bernie Sanders and only Bernie Sanders for president. Press release should be out soon if not already


After his supporters changed the convention rules (which included various missteps, like first having to change it from 50% of all delegates voting yea to 50% of attending delegates voting yea). Which is fine, though the booing Jeff Merkley part wasn't cool.

And in the grand scheme it really doesn't matter because, y'know, he kinda lost the nomination and all the primaries and caucuses already happened.

It wasn't a change of convention rules, it was a change of the wording of the resolution so that it was clear what was intended. The author of it was there and made clear that was the intent. It was a pain in the ass to get it done, but there were no rule changes regarding how it was passed.

Where and when was Merkley booed? If it was for saying to unite behind Hillary I think it's pretty obvious why it would get booed.

It means Washington Democrats won't be responsible for whatever Hillary does, that will be on her and the state parties that supported her. We have made it clear the (people of the) Democratic party of WA have made our choice and it's NOT Hillary.

EDIT: Also it encourages our super delegates to vote with the party they represent instead of against it.


And I said it was fine. But let's not pretend that this is more that theatrics and histrionics at this point since the primary is over and Bernie has been hemorrhaging any leverage he might have going forward. Besides, there was also that nice non-binding primary with 3x the voters, so perhaps the Democrats of Washington think a little differently than you do.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-19 03:58:43
June 19 2016 03:58 GMT
#81720
On June 19 2016 12:52 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2016 09:59 oBlade wrote:
On June 19 2016 09:37 Danglars wrote:
Everybody I've talked to from NJ hates Trump for Atlantic City business. All these hopes are too far-out looking at things right now. I'm more looking at something like RCP's map and the fight of his life even in states Bush won easily.

It's definitely not the most likely state to be competitive for him, but he doesn't need it to win anyway. But RCP's map doesn't even follow their own polls. Graying Michigan and Georgia? It's not in the evidence so far that Clinton and Trump are in any danger there. AZ is a red staple and I don't see evidence yet that would reverse that, not sure why NH is marked toss-up either.

On June 19 2016 09:56 Toadesstern wrote:
On June 19 2016 09:44 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On June 19 2016 09:31 zlefin wrote:
W Post isn't a joke last I checked; it has its biases, but it's still a credible and decent place of journalism.
Do you have a quote of the exact headline the Post used? Trump certainly implied Obama may have been involved iirc


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/13/donald-trump-suggests-president-obama-was-involved-with-orlando-shooting/

You decide if that's a fair interpretation of what Trump was saying.

I consider it a website of campaign attack-ads, not a legitimate source of journalism.

kind of hilarious comming from the right side considering all the shit about facebook and how censoring media is intolerable.
But the other way around is just fine. Ban them all if you don't like what they write~
On June 19 2016 09:21 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
[...] Good riddance getting their press pass revoked.


But nobody's taking their right to publish - in fact, they've promised to cover Trump even more.
I'd give Trump AZ just knowing Hillary will continue her present course and alienate AZ voters. 45 to 41 Georgia is enough to convince me contested, Michigan is +/- five latest I saw, so I can see it gray at the moment.

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On June 19 2016 10:14 Toadesstern wrote:
it's also not just the WashingtonPost
Among the news organizations whose reporters have been blacklisted: Gawker, BuzzFeed, Foreign Policy, Politico, Fusion, Univision, Mother Jones, the New Hampshire Union Leader, the Des Moines Register, the Daily Beast and Huffington Post.
It sounds like they were listing every outlet who had at least one reporter banned, to gain strength to oppose the move. I'm simply looking at the exact paragraph from your un-linked source.

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On June 19 2016 10:18 Plansix wrote:
On June 19 2016 10:15 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On June 19 2016 10:14 Toadesstern wrote:
it's also not just the WashingtonPost
Among the news organizations whose reporters have been blacklisted: Gawker, BuzzFeed, Foreign Policy, Politico, Fusion, Univision, Mother Jones, the New Hampshire Union Leader, the Des Moines Register, the Daily Beast and Huffington Post.


LOL oh no not BuzzFeed

What a madman

That's it you've convinced me to vote Hillary

Buzz feed does pretty reasonable reporting. They straight up say that their click bait pays for the real reporting. They have said it in a ton of interviews about the site. The White House would give them a press pass.

And the fucking clown blacklisted Univision and Politico? What a fucking joke. Thin skinned baby who can't deal with the press. Can't even deal with Buzzfeed, but he expects us to send him to deal with other nations. What will he do if the British PM says something mean?
Univision still employs Salinas and Ramos. They're what you see when you look up political hacks in the dictionary. Politico is biased in the normal trend these days and I don't recall any specific problems lately. If he's going to prevent any reporters at all from covering his events, the DNC latino mouthpiece is an obvious choice. I'm pretty curious who from Politico was banned.


Or you could be a Presidential candidate and not ban reporters like a baby? I hear that is what all the cool candidates have been doing for decades. I don't care what they report or how they do it, its not President's job to decide who gets to report on them. We decide who we read, not the President or anyone running for that job.
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