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On June 19 2016 10:49 Doodsmack wrote:


Uh huh. I think you at least admitted Trump accused him of siding with extremism, which is good.

On June 19 2016 11:06 Toadesstern wrote:

that's because if you think Breitbart is more credible than the WashingtonPost when it comes to journalism you don't just admit it, you think so yourself. So there's no problem for him with that

On June 19 2016 11:25 zlefin wrote:
That's only because most reasonable people come to agreements or understandings pretty quick; so most arguments end up involving at least one unreasonable person, especially on the internet.

On June 19 2016 11:04 GGTeMpLaR wrote:


He's prioritizing political correctness over national security.

That is the argument.

And if you accept that claim as true, then he is in-fact aiding extremism by literally fighting against backlash against extremism.

You don't have to accept the argument as true (you probably don't), but it's very clear that is the argument being made.

They played it like he was saying it was the 'Obama-did-Orlando' conspiracy. That is not journalism.

On June 19 2016 11:31 Doodsmack wrote:


Just realize Obama isn't siding with terrorism, and Trump shouldn't use that language.

Donald Trump’s performance the past month — the countless controversies and continual taunts of the GOP establishment — is dramatically narrowing his options for vice president.

With the Republican convention a month away and Trump approaching a critical decision on his No. 2, each week crosses more names off the list. Trump has bashed star Republican Gov. Susana Martinez of New Mexico and ignored the advice of senators like Bob Corker of Tennessee, who might have brought valuable foreign policy and congressional experience to the ticket. Florida Sen. Marco Rubio has ruled out the post (even as he reconsiders running for reelection), while South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley and Iowa Sen. Joni Ernst — both well-regarded GOP figures who might improve Trump’s dismal standing among women and minorities — have all but done the same.

And Gov. John Kasich, who might have helped Trump in must-win Ohio and heal wounds with the party establishment, can’t even bring himself to support the presumptive nominee.

“It’s not going to make it easier” to select a running mate, Sen. John Thune of South Dakota said of Trump’s recent behavior. The Senate’s No. 3 Republican, Thune himself has been mentioned as a potential running mate. “There are probably some good options for him. The question is: Are there people for whom he is a good option?”

John Weaver, who served as the campaign strategist for Kasich’s presidential bid, was more blunt: “I can't imagine a truly credible person agreeing to be his running mate, because it would be the end of his or her political career.”

Ironically, the presumptive nominee’s own toxicity is making the job of finding a vice presidential nominee that much easier, because the short list is so short. Multiple high-level Republican sources said it is topped by New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, with Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions a distant third and Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin also in the mix.

On June 19 2016 11:28 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I mean, through all this we should keep in mind one of the central problems with Trump's statements on Orlando was that he suggested Obama should step down from his office as president because he didn't use the phrase "radical Islam" in a speech Obama gave before ISIS had claimed responsibility for the attacks and investigations were still in early phases. Which suggests either Trump did not do his research on when the speech was given or thinks we should assign blame before briefings have made it clear.

Everything else about how you interpret his statements, whatever. But that statement alone is pretty good evidence of faulty logic and/or a misunderstanding of how to react as President in the immediate aftermath of tragedies-it's more important to reassure the public in initial statements and discuss what little we know rather than point fingers at villains and end up burned in the aftermath (this was the entire PROBLEM with the way the administration handled Benghazi, actually).

On June 19 2016 11:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
Just thought I'd mention the Washington state democratic party will be endorsing Bernie Sanders and only Bernie Sanders for president. Press release should be out soon if not already

On June 19 2016 11:48 GreenHorizons wrote:
Just thought I'd mention the Washington state democratic party will be endorsing Bernie Sanders and only Bernie Sanders for president. Press release should be out soon if not already

On June 19 2016 12:33 ticklishmusic wrote:

After his supporters changed the convention rules (which included various missteps, like first having to change it from 50% of all delegates voting yea to 50% of attending delegates voting yea). Which is fine, though the booing Jeff Merkley part wasn't cool.

And in the grand scheme it really doesn't matter because, y'know, he kinda lost the nomination and all the primaries and caucuses already happened.

On June 19 2016 12:33 ticklishmusic wrote:


After his supporters changed the convention rules (which included various missteps, like first having to change it from 50% of all delegates voting yea to 50% of attending delegates voting yea). Which is fine, though the booing Jeff Merkley part wasn't cool.

And in the grand scheme it really doesn't matter because, y'know, he kinda lost the nomination and all the primaries and caucuses already happened.

On June 19 2016 12:44 GreenHorizons wrote:
It means Washington Democrats won't be responsible for whatever Hillary does, that will be on her and the state parties that supported her. We have made it clear the (people of the) Democratic party of WA have made our choice and it's NOT Hillary.

On June 19 2016 09:59 oBlade wrote:

It's definitely not the most likely state to be competitive for him, but he doesn't need it to win anyway. But RCP's map doesn't even follow their own polls. Graying Michigan and Georgia? It's not in the evidence so far that Clinton and Trump are in any danger there. AZ is a red staple and I don't see evidence yet that would reverse that, not sure why NH is marked toss-up either.


But nobody's taking their right to publish - in fact, they've promised to cover Trump even more.

On June 19 2016 10:14 Toadesstern wrote:
it's also not just the WashingtonPost

On June 19 2016 10:18 Plansix wrote:

Buzz feed does pretty reasonable reporting. They straight up say that their click bait pays for the real reporting. They have said it in a ton of interviews about the site. The White House would give them a press pass.

And the fucking clown blacklisted Univision and Politico? What a fucking joke. Thin skinned baby who can't deal with the press. Can't even deal with Buzzfeed, but he expects us to send him to deal with other nations. What will he do if the British PM says something mean?

On June 19 2016 12:44 GreenHorizons wrote:

It wasn't a change of convention rules, it was a change of the wording of the resolution so that it was clear what was intended. The author of it was there and made clear that was the intent. It was a pain in the ass to get it done, but there were no rule changes regarding how it was passed.

Where and when was Merkley booed? If it was for saying to unite behind Hillary I think it's pretty obvious why it would get booed.

It means Washington Democrats won't be responsible for whatever Hillary does, that will be on her and the state parties that supported her. We have made it clear the (people of the) Democratic party of WA have made our choice and it's NOT Hillary.

EDIT: Also it encourages our super delegates to vote with the party they represent instead of against it.

On June 19 2016 12:52 Danglars wrote:
I'd give Trump AZ just knowing Hillary will continue her present course and alienate AZ voters. 45 to 41 Georgia is enough to convince me contested, Michigan is +/- five latest I saw, so I can see it gray at the moment.

It sounds like they were listing every outlet who had at least one reporter banned, to gain strength to oppose the move. I'm simply looking at the exact paragraph from your un-linked source.

Univision still employs Salinas and Ramos. They're what you see when you look up political hacks in the dictionary. Politico is biased in the normal trend these days and I don't recall any specific problems lately. If he's going to prevent any reporters at all from covering his events, the DNC latino mouthpiece is an obvious choice. I'm pretty curious who from Politico was banned.