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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 28 2016 14:57 GMT
#69561
On March 28 2016 23:45 LemOn wrote:
I just assumed... How does it work really?


Most super delegates are local governors, senators or suchlike. They endorse candidates according to their own political preference which generally corresponds to who is winning the local primary because they get elected by the same electorate and they don't want to alienate them. At the same time, endorsements can give you a better shot at cabinet positions which explains a lot of the early endorsements. Then there are personal friends, tit for tat deals etc.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 28 2016 15:00 GMT
#69562
Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal said this morning he will veto House Bill 757, also known by critics as the "anti-LGBT" bill.

"Georgia is a welcoming state. It is full of loving, kind and generous people," Deal said today. "And that is what we should want."

Opponents of the bill, also known as the Free Exercise Protection Act, argued that it discriminates against gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.


Source

Praise the lord. Nathan Deal saw the light, or rather he heard the sound of money being flushed down the toilet.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-28 15:06:08
March 28 2016 15:05 GMT
#69563
Super delegates were designed to prevent democrats having to deal with the “Trump issue.” An outsider using populist promises to temporally swell the ranks of the party to be nominated, but then not follow through or work with the rest of the party. It isn’t democratic, but the parties are interested in lasting beyond a single election and not imploding because someone promises the moon. Remember you don’t specifically need approval to run in either party’s primary.

In practice, the party knows that they can’t overturn the popular vote and expect to win the general election.

On March 29 2016 00:00 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal said this morning he will veto House Bill 757, also known by critics as the "anti-LGBT" bill.

"Georgia is a welcoming state. It is full of loving, kind and generous people," Deal said today. "And that is what we should want."

Opponents of the bill, also known as the Free Exercise Protection Act, argued that it discriminates against gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.


Source

Praise the lord. Nathan Deal saw the light, or rather he heard the sound of money being flushed down the toilet.

When all of Disney says “Yo, we are leaving,” you know that it’s only a matter of time before Apple and other huge companies are going to follow.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44250 Posts
March 28 2016 15:05 GMT
#69564
On March 29 2016 00:00 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal said this morning he will veto House Bill 757, also known by critics as the "anti-LGBT" bill.

"Georgia is a welcoming state. It is full of loving, kind and generous people," Deal said today. "And that is what we should want."

Opponents of the bill, also known as the Free Exercise Protection Act, argued that it discriminates against gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.


Source

Praise the lord. Nathan Deal saw the light, or rather he heard the sound of money being flushed down the toilet.


So happy for this
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-28 18:30:09
March 28 2016 15:07 GMT
#69565
On March 29 2016 00:05 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 00:00 ticklishmusic wrote:
Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal said this morning he will veto House Bill 757, also known by critics as the "anti-LGBT" bill.

"Georgia is a welcoming state. It is full of loving, kind and generous people," Deal said today. "And that is what we should want."

Opponents of the bill, also known as the Free Exercise Protection Act, argued that it discriminates against gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.


Source

Praise the lord. Nathan Deal saw the light, or rather he heard the sound of money being flushed down the toilet.

When all of Disney says “Yo, we are leaving,” you know that it’s only a matter of time before Apple and other huge companies are going to follow.


I heard from a bird that the really big hitters like Home Depot, Delta and Turner all signaled their dissatisfaction to Deal. Not saying they were leaving, but hinting business decisions might need to be made.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-28 15:14:01
March 28 2016 15:11 GMT
#69566
Super delegates are chosen randomly every year as well, let's say one delegate becomes a republican or dies, you need to replace that person. So you're chosen based on how long you've been in the party, I think it's somewhere around 10+ years. I've had multiple friends who were chosen to be super delegates. I currently have a friend in Seattle who was chosen this year to be a super delegate for the democratic party and well, he's in Seattle and chooses Sanders.

Glad that Deal is going to veto, how that got in front of him is crazy.
Life?
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8982 Posts
March 28 2016 15:12 GMT
#69567
Have we discussed the letter Castro has written about President Obama's trip there yet? Any reactions from you all? From reading the comments, I am thoroughly disgusted by the American public in the matters of foreign affairs. It's a shame that people can not see past their nose and bigoted ideology to see the larger picture.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 28 2016 15:16 GMT
#69568
^ lol.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/272485-sanders-defends-past-praise-of-fidel-castro
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
March 28 2016 15:23 GMT
#69569
For those who want to read the letter:

http://www.granma.cu/reflexiones-fidel/2016-03-28/el-hermano-obama-28-03-2016-01-03-16

As a Cuban, Fidel is full of shit, but in the end of the letter he specifcally states: "I dont want presents, but let's make our friendship better legally and peaceful"

Oh and btw, North Korea has an embassy not to far from the US Embassy, so that's awkward... ; p
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17976 Posts
March 28 2016 15:30 GMT
#69570
granma.cu? Holy shit. That is an awesome URL. Cu is ass in Portuguese, so the Cuban government basically has its official site on a tranny porn url.

ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8982 Posts
March 28 2016 15:33 GMT
#69571
US is there to spy on NK. That's all there is to that. Not that we can't do it already, but now it's pretty obvious. Also, I think that what the President is attempting to do before he leaves office is to leave the door ajar for the next person to push for more normalization with Cuba. I'm not well-versed in the Cuban struggle past 1960s, so I won't speak on that as a matter of fact, but rather as a form of observation. It would seem that the Cubans want change and want to progress further into the world, don't speak out as loudly because of the severe clamp down they face from the powers that be. Raul seems to be pretty level headed, but until his brother is gone and some of the other hardliners are out of the picture, Cuba is a step-by-step case. If Iran can elect a "moderate" President, then there is hope. If you take the Ayatollah out of the picture in Iran, I could see more sweeping changes happening. Same with the current ruling political party in Cuba.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
March 28 2016 15:40 GMT
#69572
On March 29 2016 00:30 Acrofales wrote:
granma.cu? Holy shit. That is an awesome URL. Cu is ass in Portuguese, so the Cuban government basically has its official site on a tranny porn url.



It's quite funny cause "Culo" in Cuban Spanish means ass
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kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
March 28 2016 16:19 GMT
#69573
On March 28 2016 23:41 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2016 21:40 Atreides wrote:
It's somewhat disingenuous even still. Poor white rural people overwhelmingly vote republican anyways. That's part of why the "sanders only wins red states" narrative exists.

While it may be true that the ones who are democrats are likely to vote sanders over Hillary you can't call them his base lol. He won't have the "rural white" vote in the general. Not even close. Frankly I'm sceptical even of this as generally speaking the poor rural white folks that identify as democrats are the very old ones, but sanders has done well in those sorts of states. (Like mine)

Does it really matter? Sanders leads every national poll over every candidate right now.

The biggest "demographic" that will sink him are super delegates that Hillary has in the bag because of political favors.

Actually, on average Hillary beats Sanders comfortably in the overwhelming majority of national polls. And she's beating him comfortably in the primary as well. She'll win the majority of pledged delegates.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-28 16:38:46
March 28 2016 16:38 GMT
#69574
Descendants of a bison herd captured and sent to Canada more than a century ago will be relocated to a Montana Native American reservation next month, in what tribal leaders bill as a homecoming for a species emblematic of their traditions.

The shipment of animals from Alberta’s Elk Island national park to the Blackfeet reservation follows a 2014 treaty among tribes in the US and Canada. That agreement aims to restore bison to areas of the Rocky Mountains and Great Plains where millions once roamed.

“For thousands of years the Blackfeet lived among the buffalo here. The buffalo sustained our way of life, provided our food, clothing, shelter,” Blackfeet chairman Harry Barnes said. “It became part of our spiritual being. We want to return the buffalo.”

The 89 plains bison, also known as buffalo, will form the nucleus of a herd that tribal leaders envision will soon roam freely across a vast landscape: the Blackfeet reservation, nearby Glacier national park and the Badger-Two Medicine wilderness — more than 4,000 square miles combined.

Bison were hunted to near-extinction in the late 1800s as European settlers advanced across the once-open American west.

Most of the animals that survive today are in commercial herds, raised for their meat and typically interbred with cattle. The Blackfeet have a commercial bison herd established in 1972 that numbers more than 400 animals.

The lineage of Elk Island’s bison, which experts say are free of cattle genes, traces back to a small group of animals captured by several American Indians on Blackfeet land just south of Canada.

Those bison were later sold to two men, Charles Allard and Michel Pablo, who formed what became known as the Pablo-Allard herd. By the early 1900s, the Pablo-Allard herd was said to be the largest collection of the animals remaining in the US.

After US officials rejected a sale offer from Pablo, the Canadian government purchased most of the bison. The animals were then shipped by train to Elk Island, according to park officials and western historians.

“They’ve made a big circle, but now they’re coming home,” said Ervin Carlson, a Blackfeet member and president of the Intertribal Buffalo Council.

The relocation comes as the restoration of genetically-pure bison to the west’s grasslands and forests have gained traction. The efforts include the relocation of some genetically-pure bison from Yellowstone national park to two Indian reservations in eastern and central Montana.


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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10126 Posts
March 28 2016 16:45 GMT
#69575
On March 29 2016 00:40 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 00:30 Acrofales wrote:
granma.cu? Holy shit. That is an awesome URL. Cu is ass in Portuguese, so the Cuban government basically has its official site on a tranny porn url.



It's quite funny cause "Culo" in Cuban Spanish means ass

More like in spanish in general.

^ lol.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/272485-sanders-defends-past-praise-of-fidel-castro


What's the deal here ? What he said is totally reasonable.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
March 28 2016 17:03 GMT
#69576
On March 29 2016 00:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
For those who want to read the letter:

http://www.granma.cu/reflexiones-fidel/2016-03-28/el-hermano-obama-28-03-2016-01-03-16

As a Cuban, Fidel is full of shit, but in the end of the letter he specifcally states: "I dont want presents, but let's make our friendship better legally and peaceful"

Oh and btw, North Korea has an embassy not to far from the US Embassy, so that's awkward... ; p



Is that an actual letter written by Fidel?

The text, and above all, the comments, gave me a huge headache -_-
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-28 17:08:01
March 28 2016 17:06 GMT
#69577
On March 29 2016 01:45 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 00:40 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On March 29 2016 00:30 Acrofales wrote:
granma.cu? Holy shit. That is an awesome URL. Cu is ass in Portuguese, so the Cuban government basically has its official site on a tranny porn url.



It's quite funny cause "Culo" in Cuban Spanish means ass

More like in spanish in general.

Show nested quote +
^ lol.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/272485-sanders-defends-past-praise-of-fidel-castro


What's the deal here ? What he said is totally reasonable.


You mean defending the public indoctrination system ? (State schools)

Or the sending of doctors to work abroad as goverment slaves?
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28649 Posts
March 28 2016 17:15 GMT
#69578
Cuba has a lot of issues. Attacking them over health care or education is fucking mind boggling and not rooted in reality. Despite being a poor as hell country, their literacy rate is higher than that of the US. Their education level in general has been heads and shoulders above any country in the world with similar GDP. Health care as well, much better than every comparable country in terms of wealth. Their policy of mass educating doctors and sending them abroad to conflict zones is one of the most commendable policies of any country through the history of mankind- and this is something you attack?

Seriously, attack them for all their undemocratic elements as much as you want. Attack them for being a police state employing torture against dissidents, and you won't get a single complaint from any poster here. But you attack them for the two areas of policy where they outperform every comparable country in the world? Get real.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-28 17:18:03
March 28 2016 17:17 GMT
#69579
The problem is that the good stuff and the bad stuff all are rooted in the same base to some degree, and you have to disentangle all the pieces if it's even possible to do so. There are commendable things that Cuba does, but how much do they owe their existence to the same system that results in oppression of dissidents?
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 28 2016 17:18 GMT
#69580
it is the basic big picture view that is lacking.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
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