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KwarK
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On March 19 2016 03:55 Plansix wrote: Forget the machine, there is a lot of power just by forcing someone to put on a device and sit is a chair while you can move around the room. His argument was that just making people nervous wasn't enough, that the machine itself must also have some merit or else it wouldn't be done on such a large scale. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28912 Posts
On March 18 2016 10:01 SK.Testie wrote: Know who else was a social-democrat? The Bolsheviks. Socialism is just the precursor. Small Scandinavian countries made it work for a while until they didn't incentivize their own population growth and now it's under great strain and burden by illiterate migrants. Their foolish altruism and naiveté has doomed them unless they all get sick of the cold and go home. Sneaky rat bolsheviks promise you the world and sneak in with "democratic-socialism". Not until we have Star Trek replicators you dirty commies. Stop cleaning up the image of what you want. That Trump rally @ Chicago. Death threats and rampant hooliganism. Dirty communists below. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/aqZ67cc7-d4/hqdefault.jpg) completely untrue post, there's pretty much not a single factual sentence aside from 'the trump rally @ chicago, as I don't have any reason for disputing that the picture indeed is from there. Shape up Testie, this thread has a higher standard this type of absurd posting. Any actual political point you might be trying to make is lost in the hyperbole of your statements - although the entire point about 'scandinavian countries' is factually wrong even without hyperbole. Make sure the words you use are actually the words you think most correctly depict reality, rather than the words that are the most incendiary and inflammatory, because right now you are directly responsible for creating a more aggravated environment and thus a worse arena for political discussion. I can feel it myself, because as much as I like you, the sheer continued hyperbolic ignorance you are displaying makes me want to post mean-spirited words directed at you - something you haven't made me want to do for what, 15 years? | ||
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ErectedZenith
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On March 19 2016 04:09 Liquid`Drone wrote: completely untrue post, there's pretty much not a single factual sentence aside from 'the trump rally @ chicago, as I don't have any reason for disputing that the picture indeed is from there. Shape up Testie, this thread has a higher standard this type of absurd posting. Any actual political point you might be trying to make is lost in the hyperbole of your statements - although the entire point about 'scandinavian countries' is factually wrong even without hyperbole. Make sure the words you use are actually the words you think most correctly depict reality, rather than the words that are the most incendiary and inflammatory, because right now you are directly responsible for creating a more aggravated environment and thus a worse arena for political discussion. I can feel it myself, because as much as I like you, the sheer continued hyperbolic ignorance you are displaying makes me want to post mean-spirited words directed at you - something you haven't made me want to do for what, 15 years? Well were The Bolsheviks social-democrat? Yes they were. So that is true. | ||
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KwarK
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On March 19 2016 04:11 ErectedZenith wrote: Well were The Bolsheviks social-democrat? Yes they were. So that is true. The Bolsheviks were not social democrats. They were revolutionary communists. You might as well say that Jeb Bush was running on a revolutionary communist platform, it's no less inaccurate. | ||
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ErectedZenith
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http://www.britannica.com/topic/Bolshevik Its the first sentence. Some of you guys are just ignoring history right and left, it is important to learn from history. | ||
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Nyxisto
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Reaper9
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ErectedZenith
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User was banned for this post. | ||
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Plansix
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KwarK
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On March 19 2016 04:39 ErectedZenith wrote: "Bolshevik, ( Russian: “One of the Majority”) , plural Bolsheviks, or Bolsheviki, member of a wing of the Russian Social-Democratic Workers’ Party, which, led by Lenin" http://www.britannica.com/topic/Bolshevik Its the first sentence. Some of you guys are just ignoring history right and left, it is important to learn from history. You see those capital letters in Social and Democrat. That's because it's the name, not because they're social democrats. Take the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Is it democratic? Well by your argument of course it is, it says it right there. How could anyone disagree with that? It's right there, it's important to learn from words, right? Of course anyone making that argument seriously would be a total idiot who somehow doesn't understand that names aren't administrated by the Ministry of Making-Sure-It's-Not-Wrong. So, right now that's what you're doing. Are you sure that's what you want to keep doing? Or we could approach it from another angle. The Bolsheviks staged a revolutionary coup with no popular support. People who are democrats do not come to power through revolutionary coups, that would be a contradiction, however people who are communist revolutionaries are able to call themselves Democrats. | ||
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Plansix
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wei2coolman
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On March 19 2016 04:50 KwarK wrote: Every fucking page that guy posts on devolves into this kind of stupid bullshit. I'm done with it. Hopefully those who find themselves to the right of me politically don't feel that this was done out of any partisan agenda. If any of you do please let me (or another moderator I guess if you don't trust me) know, either by PM or in the website feedback forum, and we'll see what we can do to fix that. I don't want to stifle debate in this topic but equally the debate can't keep being about shit like whether or not social democracy as a political ideology is basically just Lenin. Nah, Erected is going full retard. Some next level red herring. | ||
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farvacola
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Vernell Garvin wasn’t surprised that President Barack Obama tapped Merrick Garland to sit on the U.S. Supreme Court. She already knew the judge was among the smartest people in the country. Garland is, after all, really good at algebra. He’s even pretty strong at language arts. “When I have problems with my math homework, he’ll help me with that,” said Vernell, a fifth grader at J.O. Wilson Elementary School in Northeast D.C. “He’s a very good person. He never does anything wrong. He deserves the job.” Garland has volunteered at this D.C. elementary school regularly for the past 18 years, and he has tutored Vernell for the past five years, arriving at the school every other Monday at 2:30 p.m. He started tutoring a second student last year, fifth-grader Jenifer Morales Garcia. [Meet Merrick Garland, President Obama’s nominee for the Supreme Court] The school’s principal, Heidi Haggerty, said Garland prefers to build relationships with students, working closely with just one or two of them for many years. He once tutored a girl at J.O. Wilson throughout her time at the elementary school, then he continued working with her when she moved on to middle school. The plan is for Garland to continue tutoring Vernell after she moves to middle school next year. But if he makes it through what promises to be an arduous Senate nomination process, it’s unclear if his schedule as a Supreme Court justice would allow him to continue. “I think the message that he sends to his student is that you are valuable, you are important, you are worth it to me,” Haggerty said. “When he’s here, he’s like everyone else. He’s part of the community.” Garland, 63, is from the Chicago suburbs, was valedictorian of his public high school and attended Harvard University for his undergraduate and law degrees. He was a prosecutor in the legendary D.C. case that landed Mayor Marion Barry in jail on drug charges and later oversaw the prosecution of the Oklahoma City bombings in 1995. He now serves as the chief judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit. The White House, which is handling media inquiries for Garland, did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Supreme Court nominee Merrick Garland has tutored these D.C. schoolkids for years | ||
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