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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
This is how amazing the Hitler comparisons are working for the establishment. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12589 Posts
On March 18 2016 03:05 TheTenthDoc wrote: Well, at least when it comes to people in the parties actually voting in the primaries, up until around two weeks ago more primary voters would have been satisfied with Clinton than would have been satisfied with Obama in 2008 (79% satisfied with 2012 Clinton vs Obama's 69% in '08). Clinton herself has risen from 71% in '08, interestingly enough. You might be able to argue Obama's numbers were brutally tanked by a couple states though. Source : http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/republican-voters-kind-of-hate-all-their-choices/ There is the looming spectre of people that just aren't voting in the primaries, though, which is a legitimate concern since they're not captured in the exit polls, but I can't help but think they'll just vote hard party lines. No you're right that is a good sign, I didn't know that. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 18 2016 03:06 wei2coolman wrote: http://www.timesofisrael.com/donald-trumps-the-israeli-media/ This is how amazing the Hitler comparisons are working for the establishment. You didn't even read the article, did you? | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12589 Posts
On March 18 2016 03:06 wei2coolman wrote: http://www.timesofisrael.com/donald-trumps-the-israeli-media/ This is how amazing the Hitler comparisons are working for the establishment. "Perhaps it was a recent poll showing that Israelis favor Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton to succeed US President Barack Obama that mobilized the editors of the right-leaning, neoconservative Israel Hayom to aggressively attempt to sway the citizens of the Jewish state in favor of the contentious front-runner. Or perhaps it is billionaire casino magnate, pro-Israel philanthropist Sheldon Adelson, Israel Hayom’s owner and, not incidentally, one of the GOP’s most prominent donors, who is pulling the strings from above and indicating through the pages of the Israeli tabloid that he is warming up to the idea of Trump as the Republican nominee." bwahahah | ||
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oneofthem
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On March 18 2016 03:14 oneofthem wrote: muh guns to become the main argument against garland Well they have to think up something to justify obstructionism. | ||
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Introvert
United States5062 Posts
In other news, Graham fundraising for Cruz. Wonder what the weather is like in hell today. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22669 Posts
On March 18 2016 03:16 LegalLord wrote: Well they have to think up something to justify obstructionism. Why do they? Its pointless anyway, all the Democrats need to do is link the statement made mere minutes after Scalia's death that shows they were never going to confirm. At this point even if there were very legitimate reasons to deny a nomination it would not be accepted as anything other then pure obstructionism. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On March 18 2016 03:23 Introvert wrote: Keeping the second amendment intact is an excellent reason to exercise their right to refuse. In other news, Graham fundraising for Cruz. Wonder what the weather is like in hell today. In what world is Cruz less divisive than Trump? I honestly don't understand how the establishment can think Cruz is a viable candidate. Maybe they want him to run so that he will lose so that they will finally be rid of him? Use ruining Cruz' career to sink Trump's ship? | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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farvacola
United States18869 Posts
 Many of the committee members at the hearing have focused on one question: What did Governor Snyder know and when did he know it? Time and again during the hearing, emails from his administration were cited showing awareness among members of his staff that something was dangerously wrong with the water in Flint. In one, raised by Representative Elijah E. Cummings, an aide described the Flint situation as “downright scary.” Mr. Snyder acknowledged that there were numerous signs that things were not right with the water. But every inquiry was met with reassurances by “career bureaucrats,” he said, that the problems were not serious. He repeated that he was not aware that the reassurances were wrong until September 2015, when his staff briefed him on high lead levels in the Flint water supply. “They failed to inform you of a health crisis in your state?” asked Representative Brenda Lawrence of Michigan. “It’s a tragedy that never should have happened,” Mr. Snyder answered. Mr. Cummings has said that Dan Wyant, the former director of the Department of Environmental Quality in Michigan, told committee members that the issue of the Flint water was never raised during cabinet meetings with Mr. Snyder during Mr. Wyant’s time as director, according to The Detroit Free Press. Mr. Wyant resigned in December 2015. In one of the final exchanges of the hearing, Mr. Cummings told Mr. Snyder, “It looks like almost everyone knew about this problem but you. “You were missing in action. That’s not leadership.” House Hearing on the Water Crisis in Flint | ||
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kwizach
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On March 18 2016 03:05 TheTenthDoc wrote: Well, at least when it comes to people in the parties actually voting in the primaries, up until around two weeks ago more primary voters would have been satisfied with Clinton than would have been satisfied with Obama in 2008 (79% satisfied with 2012 Clinton vs Obama's 69% in '08). Clinton herself has risen from 71% in '08, interestingly enough. You might be able to argue Obama's numbers were brutally tanked by a couple states though. Source : http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/republican-voters-kind-of-hate-all-their-choices/ There is the looming spectre of people that just aren't voting in the primaries, though, which is a legitimate concern since they're not captured in the exit polls, but I can't help but think they'll just vote hard party lines. Thanks, I was about to post that to respond to LegalLord. The idea that most liberals who did not support Clinton in the primary will not vote for her in the general election is not rooted in evidence at this point. The polls show the opposite is true. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On March 18 2016 03:36 Nyxisto wrote: Apparently dismantling the IRS is viable now. Why again would someone dismantle one of the best working tax agencies on the planet? Republicans believe that the federal government is bad and that everything should be done by the states. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 18 2016 03:36 Nyxisto wrote: Apparently dismantling the IRS is viable now. Why again would someone dismantle one of the best working tax agencies on the planet? People don't like taxes? I like the IRS personally. My property taxes, however. Fuck those. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22669 Posts
On March 18 2016 03:36 Nyxisto wrote: Apparently dismantling the IRS is viable now. Why again would someone dismantle one of the best working tax agencies on the planet? because they think all taxes are evil while forgetting what it does for them? | ||
KwarK
United States44394 Posts
On March 18 2016 03:36 Nyxisto wrote: Apparently dismantling the IRS is viable now. Why again would someone dismantle one of the best working tax agencies on the planet? In fairness the American tax system in which individuals cock up their tax forms, overpay in tax all year and then pay a third party a lot of money to file routine documents in order to get the tax overpayment refunded is fucking retarded and a product mostly of lobbying by those third parties. I have a theory that it exists mostly to deceive low income America into thinking that they are big tax payers who are being robbed by foreign aid/the homeless/black people. After all, they pay taxes all year and what do they have to show for it (other than a check once a year giving all the money back). Nothing! (other than public services of which they are a net beneficiary) But that's a case for reforming the system. Abolishing the IRS is a very strange idea. | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On March 18 2016 03:06 wei2coolman wrote: http://www.timesofisrael.com/donald-trumps-the-israeli-media/ This is how amazing the Hitler comparisons are working for the establishment. Yeah a politician receiving unequivocal and universal support from a media publication without context or nuance, what could be less Hitler than that? | ||
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Introvert
United States5062 Posts
On March 18 2016 03:33 Mohdoo wrote: In what world is Cruz less divisive than Trump? I honestly don't understand how the establishment can think Cruz is a viable candidate. Maybe they want him to run so that he will lose so that they will finally be rid of him? Use ruining Cruz' career to sink Trump's ship? Losing a general wouldn't ruin his career. I think they figure that A) they know what they get with Cruz. This seems similar to Graham's reasoning. B) they don't think losing with Cruz is bad for the party. C) while Cruz is not the easiest candidate to elect in a general, they figure odds are better than Trump. They look at the Trump numbers, see the riots, etc and go "no thanks." | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On March 18 2016 03:40 Gorsameth wrote: because they think all taxes are evil while forgetting what it does for them? Shouldn't be long now until someone in this thread argues why taxes are equivalent to being robbed at gunpoint. | ||
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