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On March 07 2016 15:26 Slaughter wrote:
People in the US talk such a big game when it comes to being friendly and open and the bastion of freedom of opportunity but really its just a country full of selfish people. Me me me, I must win and if someone else is winning then its my loss so no I don't want to pay for things that benefit other people because fuck them they all must be moochers who want everything given to them.
*meanwhile in Europe* Isn't it great that we have enriched our nation by investing in ourselves as a whole instead of being divided and letting some invisible hand work its magic?
Like there is 0 sense of community and unity in this country. Everyone is too individualistic and what groups do form are numerous with narrow goals and they all distrust each other (and also cut across cultural/racial/economic/religious lines).
We carved ourselves up into niches and everyone only wants their niche to win and thinks that they are 100% self reliant and every other group is just looking for hand outs on their dime.
No one actually wants to make America "great" again, they want to make whatever niche they are apart of to get theirs and who cares about the rest.
Fuck You. Got Mine is the motto of this country.
Selfish?
Like the people that want a cushy ride through life without having to work hard for it? That describes a huge chunk of Sanders supporters and socialist advocates in general.
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On March 07 2016 17:12 Ravianna26 wrote:
So a question creeped into my head: should the government pay people's power and water bills?
Didn't that happen in Detroit last year? I remember the UN saying it was a human right.50% in Detroit behind on their water bills or something?
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On March 07 2016 20:02 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2016 15:26 Slaughter wrote:
People in the US talk such a big game when it comes to being friendly and open and the bastion of freedom of opportunity but really its just a country full of selfish people. Me me me, I must win and if someone else is winning then its my loss so no I don't want to pay for things that benefit other people because fuck them they all must be moochers who want everything given to them.
*meanwhile in Europe* Isn't it great that we have enriched our nation by investing in ourselves as a whole instead of being divided and letting some invisible hand work its magic?
Like there is 0 sense of community and unity in this country. Everyone is too individualistic and what groups do form are numerous with narrow goals and they all distrust each other (and also cut across cultural/racial/economic/religious lines).
We carved ourselves up into niches and everyone only wants their niche to win and thinks that they are 100% self reliant and every other group is just looking for hand outs on their dime.
No one actually wants to make America "great" again, they want to make whatever niche they are apart of to get theirs and who cares about the rest.
Fuck You. Got Mine is the motto of this country. Selfish? Like the people that want a cushy ride through life without having to work hard for it? That describes a huge chunk of Sanders supporters and socialist advocates in general.
That's the most BS comment of this thread so far, and if you don't already know it you're off your head.
Socialism is about creating a society where the poor and vulnerable are able to live a decent life. That's not selfish.
I can't believe I have to explain that lol
Whereas the right tends towards 'what's mine is mine, fuck everyone else'.
This isn't only America though, I don't know why he would pick on a country that's consistently voted left recently.
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On March 07 2016 20:07 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2016 20:02 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On March 07 2016 15:26 Slaughter wrote:
People in the US talk such a big game when it comes to being friendly and open and the bastion of freedom of opportunity but really its just a country full of selfish people. Me me me, I must win and if someone else is winning then its my loss so no I don't want to pay for things that benefit other people because fuck them they all must be moochers who want everything given to them.
*meanwhile in Europe* Isn't it great that we have enriched our nation by investing in ourselves as a whole instead of being divided and letting some invisible hand work its magic?
Like there is 0 sense of community and unity in this country. Everyone is too individualistic and what groups do form are numerous with narrow goals and they all distrust each other (and also cut across cultural/racial/economic/religious lines).
We carved ourselves up into niches and everyone only wants their niche to win and thinks that they are 100% self reliant and every other group is just looking for hand outs on their dime.
No one actually wants to make America "great" again, they want to make whatever niche they are apart of to get theirs and who cares about the rest.
Fuck You. Got Mine is the motto of this country. Selfish? Like the people that want a cushy ride through life without having to work hard for it? That describes a huge chunk of Sanders supporters and socialist advocates in general. That's the most BS comment of this thread so far, and if you don't already know it you're off your head. Socialism is about creating a society where the poor and vulnerable are able to live a decent life. That's not selfish. I can't believe I have to explain that lol Whereas the right tends towards 'what's mine is mine, fuck everyone else'. This isn't only America though, I don't know why he would pick on a country that's consistently voted left recently.
The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other peoples money.Living in a bankrupt nation like the UK i thought you'd realise that by now.Thats another thing Europe hasn't figured out yet - you can't have both an open door immigration policy and a generous welfare system.Pure idiocy.
Anyway socialisms latest casualty is Venezuela.Horrific what is happening there, read some articles and see for yourself.
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And then we have Finland, Norway or Denmark. Radical examples are just silly.
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On March 07 2016 20:29 Godwrath wrote:
And then we have Finland, Norway or Denmark. Radical examples are just silly.
Norway is well run but it has a population of only 5 million and vast natural resources relative to population allowing it to build up a future fund.USA has 330 million and imports a large amount of its oil and other resources.Norways debt/GDP is 30% or something, USA is well over 100% now, they are totally incomparable.
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On March 07 2016 20:21 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2016 20:07 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 07 2016 20:02 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On March 07 2016 15:26 Slaughter wrote:
People in the US talk such a big game when it comes to being friendly and open and the bastion of freedom of opportunity but really its just a country full of selfish people. Me me me, I must win and if someone else is winning then its my loss so no I don't want to pay for things that benefit other people because fuck them they all must be moochers who want everything given to them.
*meanwhile in Europe* Isn't it great that we have enriched our nation by investing in ourselves as a whole instead of being divided and letting some invisible hand work its magic?
Like there is 0 sense of community and unity in this country. Everyone is too individualistic and what groups do form are numerous with narrow goals and they all distrust each other (and also cut across cultural/racial/economic/religious lines).
We carved ourselves up into niches and everyone only wants their niche to win and thinks that they are 100% self reliant and every other group is just looking for hand outs on their dime.
No one actually wants to make America "great" again, they want to make whatever niche they are apart of to get theirs and who cares about the rest.
Fuck You. Got Mine is the motto of this country. Selfish? Like the people that want a cushy ride through life without having to work hard for it? That describes a huge chunk of Sanders supporters and socialist advocates in general. That's the most BS comment of this thread so far, and if you don't already know it you're off your head. Socialism is about creating a society where the poor and vulnerable are able to live a decent life. That's not selfish. I can't believe I have to explain that lol Whereas the right tends towards 'what's mine is mine, fuck everyone else'. This isn't only America though, I don't know why he would pick on a country that's consistently voted left recently. The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other peoples money.Living in a bankrupt nation like the UK i thought you'd realise that by now.Thats another thing Europe hasn't figured out yet - you can't have both an open door immigration policy and a generous welfare system.Pure idiocy. Anyway socialisms latest casualty is Venezuela.Horrific what is happening there, read some articles and see for yourself.
What does generous welfare and open door immigration policy have to do with each other? They're completely independant.
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On March 07 2016 20:39 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2016 20:21 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On March 07 2016 20:07 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 07 2016 20:02 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On March 07 2016 15:26 Slaughter wrote:
People in the US talk such a big game when it comes to being friendly and open and the bastion of freedom of opportunity but really its just a country full of selfish people. Me me me, I must win and if someone else is winning then its my loss so no I don't want to pay for things that benefit other people because fuck them they all must be moochers who want everything given to them.
*meanwhile in Europe* Isn't it great that we have enriched our nation by investing in ourselves as a whole instead of being divided and letting some invisible hand work its magic?
Like there is 0 sense of community and unity in this country. Everyone is too individualistic and what groups do form are numerous with narrow goals and they all distrust each other (and also cut across cultural/racial/economic/religious lines).
We carved ourselves up into niches and everyone only wants their niche to win and thinks that they are 100% self reliant and every other group is just looking for hand outs on their dime.
No one actually wants to make America "great" again, they want to make whatever niche they are apart of to get theirs and who cares about the rest.
Fuck You. Got Mine is the motto of this country. Selfish? Like the people that want a cushy ride through life without having to work hard for it? That describes a huge chunk of Sanders supporters and socialist advocates in general. That's the most BS comment of this thread so far, and if you don't already know it you're off your head. Socialism is about creating a society where the poor and vulnerable are able to live a decent life. That's not selfish. I can't believe I have to explain that lol Whereas the right tends towards 'what's mine is mine, fuck everyone else'. This isn't only America though, I don't know why he would pick on a country that's consistently voted left recently. The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other peoples money.Living in a bankrupt nation like the UK i thought you'd realise that by now.Thats another thing Europe hasn't figured out yet - you can't have both an open door immigration policy and a generous welfare system.Pure idiocy. Anyway socialisms latest casualty is Venezuela.Horrific what is happening there, read some articles and see for yourself. What does generous welfare and open door immigration policy have to do with each other? They're completely independant.
So why did 1,000,000 migrants settle in Germany and 240,000 in Sweden last year? Because they have some of the most generous welfare.They aren't going to Portugal or Italy so much? Pretty freaking obvious dude.It's incredibly unsustainable, like Swedens -0.50% interest rates.
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No, that is because they have the highest chance it immigrate to those countries legally and be accepted. On average they are looking for work, not welfare.
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On March 07 2016 20:43 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2016 20:39 OtherWorld wrote:On March 07 2016 20:21 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On March 07 2016 20:07 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 07 2016 20:02 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On March 07 2016 15:26 Slaughter wrote:
People in the US talk such a big game when it comes to being friendly and open and the bastion of freedom of opportunity but really its just a country full of selfish people. Me me me, I must win and if someone else is winning then its my loss so no I don't want to pay for things that benefit other people because fuck them they all must be moochers who want everything given to them.
*meanwhile in Europe* Isn't it great that we have enriched our nation by investing in ourselves as a whole instead of being divided and letting some invisible hand work its magic?
Like there is 0 sense of community and unity in this country. Everyone is too individualistic and what groups do form are numerous with narrow goals and they all distrust each other (and also cut across cultural/racial/economic/religious lines).
We carved ourselves up into niches and everyone only wants their niche to win and thinks that they are 100% self reliant and every other group is just looking for hand outs on their dime.
No one actually wants to make America "great" again, they want to make whatever niche they are apart of to get theirs and who cares about the rest.
Fuck You. Got Mine is the motto of this country. Selfish? Like the people that want a cushy ride through life without having to work hard for it? That describes a huge chunk of Sanders supporters and socialist advocates in general. That's the most BS comment of this thread so far, and if you don't already know it you're off your head. Socialism is about creating a society where the poor and vulnerable are able to live a decent life. That's not selfish. I can't believe I have to explain that lol Whereas the right tends towards 'what's mine is mine, fuck everyone else'. This isn't only America though, I don't know why he would pick on a country that's consistently voted left recently. The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other peoples money.Living in a bankrupt nation like the UK i thought you'd realise that by now.Thats another thing Europe hasn't figured out yet - you can't have both an open door immigration policy and a generous welfare system.Pure idiocy. Anyway socialisms latest casualty is Venezuela.Horrific what is happening there, read some articles and see for yourself. What does generous welfare and open door immigration policy have to do with each other? They're completely independant. So why did 1,000,000 migrants settle in Germany and 240,000 in Sweden last year? Because they have some of the most generous welfare.They aren't going to Portugal or Italy so much? Pretty freaking obvious dude.It's incredibly unsustainable, like Swedens -0.50% interest rates.
Yeah right
if I was a migrant I'm sure I'd choose a country whose economy is half-broken like Portugal or Italy while I can find a job more easily in Germany or Sweden
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On March 07 2016 20:02 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2016 15:26 Slaughter wrote:
People in the US talk such a big game when it comes to being friendly and open and the bastion of freedom of opportunity but really its just a country full of selfish people. Me me me, I must win and if someone else is winning then its my loss so no I don't want to pay for things that benefit other people because fuck them they all must be moochers who want everything given to them.
*meanwhile in Europe* Isn't it great that we have enriched our nation by investing in ourselves as a whole instead of being divided and letting some invisible hand work its magic?
Like there is 0 sense of community and unity in this country. Everyone is too individualistic and what groups do form are numerous with narrow goals and they all distrust each other (and also cut across cultural/racial/economic/religious lines).
We carved ourselves up into niches and everyone only wants their niche to win and thinks that they are 100% self reliant and every other group is just looking for hand outs on their dime.
No one actually wants to make America "great" again, they want to make whatever niche they are apart of to get theirs and who cares about the rest.
Fuck You. Got Mine is the motto of this country. Selfish? Like the people that want a cushy ride through life without having to work hard for it? That describes a huge chunk of Sanders supporters and socialist advocates in general.
I feel like the people who say things like this don't realize that the minimum wage and average salary haven't been keeping up with the increased cost of living over the past few decades. Not by a long shot.
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On March 07 2016 20:07 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2016 20:02 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On March 07 2016 15:26 Slaughter wrote:
People in the US talk such a big game when it comes to being friendly and open and the bastion of freedom of opportunity but really its just a country full of selfish people. Me me me, I must win and if someone else is winning then its my loss so no I don't want to pay for things that benefit other people because fuck them they all must be moochers who want everything given to them.
*meanwhile in Europe* Isn't it great that we have enriched our nation by investing in ourselves as a whole instead of being divided and letting some invisible hand work its magic?
Like there is 0 sense of community and unity in this country. Everyone is too individualistic and what groups do form are numerous with narrow goals and they all distrust each other (and also cut across cultural/racial/economic/religious lines).
We carved ourselves up into niches and everyone only wants their niche to win and thinks that they are 100% self reliant and every other group is just looking for hand outs on their dime.
No one actually wants to make America "great" again, they want to make whatever niche they are apart of to get theirs and who cares about the rest.
Fuck You. Got Mine is the motto of this country. Selfish? Like the people that want a cushy ride through life without having to work hard for it? That describes a huge chunk of Sanders supporters and socialist advocates in general. That's the most BS comment of this thread so far, and if you don't already know it you're off your head. Socialism is about creating a society where the poor and vulnerable are able to live a decent life. That's not selfish. I can't believe I have to explain that lol Whereas the right tends towards 'what's mine is mine, fuck everyone else'. This isn't only America though, I don't know why he would pick on a country that's consistently voted left recently.
Take it away, Kasparov;
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On March 07 2016 20:29 Godwrath wrote:
And then we have Finland, Norway or Denmark. Radical examples are just silly.
And for his encore
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/OO2C8m5.jpg)
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On March 07 2016 21:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2016 20:02 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On March 07 2016 15:26 Slaughter wrote:
People in the US talk such a big game when it comes to being friendly and open and the bastion of freedom of opportunity but really its just a country full of selfish people. Me me me, I must win and if someone else is winning then its my loss so no I don't want to pay for things that benefit other people because fuck them they all must be moochers who want everything given to them.
*meanwhile in Europe* Isn't it great that we have enriched our nation by investing in ourselves as a whole instead of being divided and letting some invisible hand work its magic?
Like there is 0 sense of community and unity in this country. Everyone is too individualistic and what groups do form are numerous with narrow goals and they all distrust each other (and also cut across cultural/racial/economic/religious lines).
We carved ourselves up into niches and everyone only wants their niche to win and thinks that they are 100% self reliant and every other group is just looking for hand outs on their dime.
No one actually wants to make America "great" again, they want to make whatever niche they are apart of to get theirs and who cares about the rest.
Fuck You. Got Mine is the motto of this country. Selfish? Like the people that want a cushy ride through life without having to work hard for it? That describes a huge chunk of Sanders supporters and socialist advocates in general. I feel like the people who say things like this don't realize that the minimum wage and average salary haven't been keeping up with the increased cost of living over the past few decades. Not by a long shot.
Wage stagnation is one of the larger problems facing the middle class in the US. But of course because the a minimum wage raise would only benefit the poor immediately, people oppose it.
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On March 07 2016 17:50 TankWithBank wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2016 17:47 IgnE wrote:On March 07 2016 17:10 TankWithBank wrote:On March 07 2016 16:31 Jayme wrote:On March 07 2016 15:34 TankWithBank wrote:On March 07 2016 15:17 Slaughter wrote:On March 07 2016 15:09 TankWithBank wrote:On March 07 2016 14:40 KwarK wrote:On March 07 2016 13:23 oBlade wrote:On March 07 2016 13:01 Nyxisto wrote:
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history & philosophy students have quite solid job prospects, apart from that isn't offering people as much self-realization as possible kind of the point of society? If someone wants to study history because he is a great history enthusiast isn't that good? Why does the government need to finance that in the here and now? The government doesn't fund things, taxpayers do. College grads pay more taxes. It works out. SOME college grads pay more taxes. Millions dont. That's why there is a debt bubble in the first place. Kids by the millions majored in Gender studies and History and then wondered why they cant land a six figure job. There is also a debt bubble because college tuition has increased insane amounts over the years that make it impossible to self fund unless your very rich or get some kind of scholarship ride. Im not going to deny the huge tuition some of the high end college cost. However, these are adults we're talking about here, they should've known what they're getting into. Colleges are businesses and no one force you to attend one. I just expect people to have enough common sense to not spend 100k on a gender study degree. Im astounded people still say this in 2016...a time where you require a degree to be a manager at a stupid Abercrombie and Fitch store. I mean you kinda have to go unless you either go military or luck in to a job. People being forced to spend so much money to go to school is as much a problem as everyone over valuing degrees in the first place. Also let's be real here. You may be an adult at 18 but youre still very much a child in most circumstances. Your life experiences are pretty much zero at this point and to think that this sort of loan will fuck you long in to the future is weighed against the need for a degree in the first place. It doesn't not help that there is a community college stigma in this country either. The debt bubble is going to explode one day. It's going to be bad when it does. There are plenty of blue collar jobs that dont require a college degree. As long as shits continue to break down, there will be blue collar jobs. But of course, an average 18 years old isnt gonna want to fix cars or power lines for a living, that is beneath him. Instead of learning a useful Trade, he must pursue a career in Medieval English Literature instead! And taxes from blue collar workers will pay for it! Out of curiosity what's your job? None at the moment. Im a student. Comp Sci major, and i intent to pay back every cent of my debt.
I spent 3 years studying Engineering with that same mentality. I didn't have access to enough funding to finish my degree even though I racked up just shy of 40k in debt to that point. I' just spent the last 4-5 years out of school paying it back (and admittedly am over half way at this point), while also trying to put myself in a financial position where I could go back and finish my degree. Within the last few months, I've had a few of the companies I deal with for my work actually try to poach me, and my current manager is already training me for something else coming up where I'll have an opportunity to make a shitload more money than I currently do. Both the other companies and my manager don't actually give a shit that I don't have a degree, they have seen first hand what I can do, and going for some kind of certifications at a college is easy for them to arrange and write off an expense.
A degree doesn't suddenly give you a 50k+ a year job. It really doesn't. I know a lot of people still struggling even if they do have their degrees already. I know plenty that make less than I make right now too. What a degree does do is opens up the door somewhere a bit easier. For me, it took a couple of years of bouncing around jobs to land something "decent", and give me that same kind of opportunity. It's still up to you to kick your way in once that door opens just a crack. If you don't, you just wasted a ton of your money.
And this is why I'm somewhat against "free" education, because if someone else is going to be getting something for free that they don't actually want or need, then why the fuck should my tax dollars now be helping foot the bill? I'm all for giving people the ability to get it on their own (and I definitely think that after my experience with the student loan industry, I can appreciate what this means), but giving it to someone for "free" means they'll be wasting other people's money.
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On Sanders supporters being lazy people who want handouts.
I'd just like to point out we're the only campaign funded by ourselves, every day folks (not million and billionaire sugar daddies and mommas)
And everyone is busting their ass without help of the media or local establishment. Bernie Sanders campaign is by far and away the most bootstrap campaign for the reasons before and we had to push a candidate 90-95% of the country didn't recognize less than a year ago.
Sanders supporters can look at the 60's and early 70's and tell that we're getting hosed now. Taxes on the wealthy were higher but their %age of the tax bill was smaller and the economy boomed. Put money in the hands of the middle class and low income and it gets spent right back into the economy.
We can match standard living conditions from other countries in a variety of ways that we simply don't. Anyone who tells us we can't, at the same time we have yachts with places to park jet boats and helicopters, is full of it. Maybe we can't have yachts with 2 helipads and a pool AND make sure our veterans get the care they need, children don't go to bed hungry, etc... but it's pretty obvious to Sanders supporters which is more important to us.
No one is going to stop trying to be wealthy if they find out they can only afford the helipad and hot tub or the pool but not all of them on their yacht.
We don't even need anything that extreme, just the expansion of civil and constitutional rights combined with economic standings similar to those we've already had before in this country.
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On March 07 2016 21:05 The KY wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2016 20:07 Jockmcplop wrote:On March 07 2016 20:02 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On March 07 2016 15:26 Slaughter wrote:
People in the US talk such a big game when it comes to being friendly and open and the bastion of freedom of opportunity but really its just a country full of selfish people. Me me me, I must win and if someone else is winning then its my loss so no I don't want to pay for things that benefit other people because fuck them they all must be moochers who want everything given to them.
*meanwhile in Europe* Isn't it great that we have enriched our nation by investing in ourselves as a whole instead of being divided and letting some invisible hand work its magic?
Like there is 0 sense of community and unity in this country. Everyone is too individualistic and what groups do form are numerous with narrow goals and they all distrust each other (and also cut across cultural/racial/economic/religious lines).
We carved ourselves up into niches and everyone only wants their niche to win and thinks that they are 100% self reliant and every other group is just looking for hand outs on their dime.
No one actually wants to make America "great" again, they want to make whatever niche they are apart of to get theirs and who cares about the rest.
Fuck You. Got Mine is the motto of this country. Selfish? Like the people that want a cushy ride through life without having to work hard for it? That describes a huge chunk of Sanders supporters and socialist advocates in general. That's the most BS comment of this thread so far, and if you don't already know it you're off your head. Socialism is about creating a society where the poor and vulnerable are able to live a decent life. That's not selfish. I can't believe I have to explain that lol Whereas the right tends towards 'what's mine is mine, fuck everyone else'. This isn't only America though, I don't know why he would pick on a country that's consistently voted left recently. Take it away, Kasparov; Show nested quote +On March 07 2016 20:29 Godwrath wrote:
And then we have Finland, Norway or Denmark. Radical examples are just silly. And for his encore
In a similar vein :
Former Russian confronts OWS pro-socialist protesters
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rD5luu_UTzc
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On March 07 2016 21:02 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2016 20:02 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:On March 07 2016 15:26 Slaughter wrote:
People in the US talk such a big game when it comes to being friendly and open and the bastion of freedom of opportunity but really its just a country full of selfish people. Me me me, I must win and if someone else is winning then its my loss so no I don't want to pay for things that benefit other people because fuck them they all must be moochers who want everything given to them.
*meanwhile in Europe* Isn't it great that we have enriched our nation by investing in ourselves as a whole instead of being divided and letting some invisible hand work its magic?
Like there is 0 sense of community and unity in this country. Everyone is too individualistic and what groups do form are numerous with narrow goals and they all distrust each other (and also cut across cultural/racial/economic/religious lines).
We carved ourselves up into niches and everyone only wants their niche to win and thinks that they are 100% self reliant and every other group is just looking for hand outs on their dime.
No one actually wants to make America "great" again, they want to make whatever niche they are apart of to get theirs and who cares about the rest.
Fuck You. Got Mine is the motto of this country. Selfish? Like the people that want a cushy ride through life without having to work hard for it? That describes a huge chunk of Sanders supporters and socialist advocates in general. I feel like the people who say things like this don't realize that the minimum wage and average salary haven't been keeping up with the increased cost of living over the past few decades. Not by a long shot.
Yes.
One 2015 US dollar is worth $0.04 in 1913 dollars.1913 being the year the Federal Reserve was created.
Gold 1971 $35/ounce
Gold 2016 $1270/ounce
Government CPI figures are bogus, inflation is far higher than stated especially on essentials like food.
Really though i don't see Sanders fixing much.He raises taxes on everyone - including low and middle earners.Tax the top end too high they will move elsewhere, happened in France a couple years back : http://www.businessinsider.com.au/france-ended-75-super-tax-2015-1?r=US&IR=T
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Could anyone explain to me why they count super delegates into the overall delegate count? they haven't voted yet and always switch towards the person with most votes at the end.
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cant protest yourself into growth
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Using a former chess grandmaster (as smart as he might be) as your primary reference for why socialism is bad is pretty damn weak... I know he lived under USSR, but that was to socialism what China is to democracy.
EDIT: It's news to me (and most people in Denmark I guess) that Denmark was a capitalist powerhouse already in the early 1800s and that is why the welfare state was made possible. I have a hard time imagining someone being more off the mark with their conclusions. Denmark is doing well because of the welfare state, not in spite as Kasparov would have you assume. We are a country of 5 million - we would never win in a contest with the US on pure free market terms. We can compete because of our system and the risk which we implicitly take in said system by investing in education, high social mobility, and safety nets on a national level. Kasparov ignores these risks in his argumentation and for that reason alone he is not an ideal reference for your argument.
EDIT2: I sincerely doubt the Danish system could be adopted by the US (and I don't think anyone is advocating that it should). I think there are elements which are certainly adoptable, however I think the mentality of the average american might be too much an obstacle.
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