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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 06:43:10
March 02 2016 06:40 GMT
#62301
FiWiFaKi reminded me, I think I might actually do a comprehensive thread for 2016 about legislative elections sometime in the near future. Like with all ~500 469 seats up for grabs detailed with candidate names. It's not as flashy as Trump vs. Clinton or whoever it turns out to be on either side, but it's a very integral part of the process no matter what side of the fence you're on. These are the people that the President will have to both work with and strongarm to pass any of the policies (s)he will want to enact.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 02 2016 06:42 GMT
#62302
last thought before bed: one of the things i'm excited about for a hillary presidency is how she'll prove all the haters saying she's a corporate shill wrong.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23459 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 06:46:46
March 02 2016 06:43 GMT
#62303
On March 02 2016 15:32 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 15:14 GreenHorizons wrote:
Not sure if folks saw this video from a Trump Rally, but it kinda reinforces the argument that he's revving people up in negative ways. I don't think this would happen at any other rally, particularly to this degree.


I mean... I wouldn't draw any conclusions about the community of Ferguson after the riots.

But, some how it's completely okay to do it about Trump supporters. Cool beans.


Maybe not you, but millions of people have. Somehow I doubt you said anything then. I wouldn't really compare the two though, seeing as how Trump actually told them to "get them out of here".

On March 02 2016 15:42 ticklishmusic wrote:
last thought before bed: one of the things i'm excited about for a hillary presidency is how she'll prove all the haters saying she's a corporate shill wrong.


I'd be the happiest to admit it. Doubt that would ever happen though. Obama was obviously the harsher of the two and she destroyed one of the few things he accomplished in that regard by removing the restrictions on lobbyists donating to the DNC.

And before long she'll be the only person in the race with a superPAC.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
March 02 2016 06:45 GMT
#62304
On March 02 2016 15:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
FiWiFaKi reminded me, I think I might actually do a comprehensive thread for 2016 about legislative elections sometime in the near future. Like with all ~500 seats up for grabs detailed with candidate names. It's not as flashy as Trump vs. Clinton or whoever it turns out to be on either side, but it's a very integral part of the process no matter what side of the fence you're on. These are the people that the President will have to both work with and strongarm to pass any of the policies (s)he will want to enact.


I'd enjoy seeing that, I'm not very educated on the other branches of government in your country, would be curious to learn more. The power of legislative system is more than that of the president, yet way less attention is given to it. Glad I could somehow say something to remind you
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 02 2016 06:50 GMT
#62305
Alaska caucus results are starting to come in, and it looks like it's a close race between Trump and Cruz. Rubio doesn't have a prayer, and is even dangerously close to falling below Alaska's 13% threshold.

When the delegate math is all said and done Trump is probably going to have exceeded what he needed to stay on track by a significant margin.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 02 2016 06:53 GMT
#62306
On March 02 2016 15:45 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 15:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
FiWiFaKi reminded me, I think I might actually do a comprehensive thread for 2016 about legislative elections sometime in the near future. Like with all ~500 seats up for grabs detailed with candidate names. It's not as flashy as Trump vs. Clinton or whoever it turns out to be on either side, but it's a very integral part of the process no matter what side of the fence you're on. These are the people that the President will have to both work with and strongarm to pass any of the policies (s)he will want to enact.


I'd enjoy seeing that, I'm not very educated on the other branches of government in your country, would be curious to learn more. The power of legislative system is more than that of the president, yet way less attention is given to it. Glad I could somehow say something to remind you

I actually did a semi-decent one for 2012: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/369550-usa-congressional-elections-2012

Might've been easier for 2014 since there was no competing presidential election but midterm hype is never strong enough int he first place.

But this time I'll try to make it much more expansive. Right now I'm envisioning something along the lines of the actual OP linking to all sorts of places along with a general overview, maybe some extra information about how Congressional elections work and what's up for grabs at every level of government, and then details about senators and representatives running in every state (34 states have elections for 1 of their 2 senators, all 435 representatives from all 50 states run every 2 years) and some recent stances on various issues and maybe some other useful stuff (if I really want a stretch goal, I'll try to find as many incumbents as I can and see how much they actually participate in Congress, etc.)
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 02 2016 07:08 GMT
#62307
On March 02 2016 15:42 ticklishmusic wrote:
last thought before bed: one of the things i'm excited about for a hillary presidency is how she'll prove all the haters saying she's a corporate shill wrong.


Can't wait to see her flip flop on TPP and money in politics when she is anointed president she wouldn't even be discussing these issues if Bernie weren't in the race
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paulnkanagies
Profile Joined March 2016
United States0 Posts
March 02 2016 07:22 GMT
#62308
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23459 Posts
March 02 2016 07:24 GMT
#62309
So reviewing Bill's actions in Mass. today I'm not really seeing how what he did could be legal. What impact it had and whether it made any specific difference is a different issue, but all evidence points to it being illegal without question.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
March 02 2016 07:30 GMT
#62310
On March 02 2016 16:24 GreenHorizons wrote:
So reviewing Bill's actions in Mass. today I'm not really seeing how what he did could be legal. What impact it had and whether it made any specific difference is a different issue, but all evidence points to it being illegal without question.

I read here that it was apparently legal.

Is this really something worth focusing on, though?
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
March 02 2016 07:34 GMT
#62311
Of Cruz and Rubio, it seems that Cruz got the better of Super Tuesday. Most of the states today were very demographically favorable for Cruz and he obviously can ride the Texas gravy train to raise his delegate count.

Rubio is going to do a bit better in the later states, which means that there's no real chance of an anti-Trump.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23459 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 07:47:14
March 02 2016 07:43 GMT
#62312
On March 02 2016 16:30 kwizach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 16:24 GreenHorizons wrote:
So reviewing Bill's actions in Mass. today I'm not really seeing how what he did could be legal. What impact it had and whether it made any specific difference is a different issue, but all evidence points to it being illegal without question.

I read here that it was apparently legal.

Is this really something worth focusing on, though?


I guess the Secretary of State is wrong then? That would seem like something he would know better than a local news station?

Consistent with the activities restricted by statute, the implementing regulations prohibit the solicitation of votes for or against, or any other form of promotion or opposition of, any person or political party or position on a ballot question, to be voted on at the current election. 950 C.M.R. § 54.04(22)(d).


Source

Edit: To your second point, probably, if it wasn't part of a larger pattern.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6305 Posts
March 02 2016 07:53 GMT
#62313
Sanders going though better than expected. Looking at those exit polls he is going to have a nice time once they get out of the southern states, he just might pull it off.
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 02 2016 07:59 GMT
#62314
So, looks like Trump is the next President?
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6305 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 08:14:25
March 02 2016 08:10 GMT
#62315
On March 02 2016 16:59 OtherWorld wrote:
So, looks like Trump is the next President?

It's over, America is going to be great again

edit: The missing precincts in Alaska were all pro Trump according to polls before the vote, Trump can still win.
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
March 02 2016 08:14 GMT
#62316
On March 02 2016 17:10 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 16:59 OtherWorld wrote:
So, looks like Trump is the next President?

It's over, America is going to be great again

I bet Russia and China are really frightened right now d:
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10805 Posts
March 02 2016 08:24 GMT
#62317
Everyone is
The big question is: Do the repubs in 4/8 years just nominate a "Magic 8 ball"?
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6305 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 08:37:48
March 02 2016 08:32 GMT
#62318
On March 02 2016 17:24 Velr wrote:
Everyone is
The big question is: Do the repubs in 4/8 years just nominate a "Magic 8 ball"?

Switzerland will be safe in any case, seeing as how Trump is the only candidate (on both sides) not looking for a nuclear war with Russia. China is screwed though.

edit: Looks like Trump will lose Palin-land, but him and Cruz will have the same amount of delegates.

"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4356 Posts
March 02 2016 08:37 GMT
#62319
Clintons victory speech... "Trying to divide America between us and them is wrong".

Laughable.Noone has done more to divide America than Clinton and the democratic party.Stonewalling any objecting views by calling that person a racist, sexist, homophobe, bigot, transphobe or using terms like whitesplaining or mansplaining is the definition of creating division.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4356 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 08:45:15
March 02 2016 08:38 GMT
#62320
Will Rubio drop out when he loses Florida? We can only hope.

I think winning DC will hurt Rubio, by reminding voters he is the establishment choice.How popular is DC with republicans right now? Exactly.
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