US Politics Mega-thread - Page 2256

On September 01 2015 13:57 Introvert wrote:
Who was deluding themselves? These polls are released constantly.

On September 01 2015 14:23 GreenHorizons wrote:


The Ted Cruz one is new, no? I don't think you are really appreciating it's beauty.

It so succinctly sums up what's wrong with the Republican party and why Trump is dominating the nomination process thus far.

Not that it surprises those not deluding themselves, but the overwhelming majority of Republican voters still think Obama is (or may be) a foreign-born Muslim.

On September 01 2015 15:04 Introvert wrote:


You said



Do you mean the people who believe that are deluding themselves? That sentence is unclear. It seems like you are talking about those who do believe Obama was born a citizen and that Cruz was not born in the USA- that some of them are deluding themselves.

Despite a Supreme Court ruling that compelled a Rowan County clerk in Kentucky to give out marriage licenses to gay couples, Kim Davis refused to comply once again on Tuesday morning by denying marriage licenses to everyone.

Ryland Barton, a reporter for Kentucky Public Radio, reports that Davis said she made the decision "under God's authority."

On September 02 2015 00:12 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Just arrest this woman already....



Source

Submerged countries, abandoned cities and hordes of refugees from low-lying areas await the world barring urgent action on climate change, President Barack Obama warned Monday, painting a doomsday scenario as he opened a historic visit to Alaska.

In a bid to further his environmental legacy, Obama brought the power of the presidential pulpit to Anchorage and called on a meeting of foreign ministers to take swift action as negotiations for a global climate treaty. In a speech to an Arctic climate summit, Obama sought to set the tone for a three-day tour of Alaska that will put the state's liquefying glaciers and sinking villages on graphic display.

"This year, in Paris, must be the year that the world finally reaches an agreement to protect the one planet we've got while we still can," Obama said, according to his prepared remarks.

Obama added that the threat of climate change is "urgent and growing" and "will define the contours of this century more dramatically than any other."

Evoking ominous consequences, Obama said that left unchecked, climate change would soon trigger global conflict and "condemn our children to a planet beyond their capacity to repair."

"It's already changing the way Alaskans live," Obama said.

In the Arctic, which is warming faster than any other corner of the globe, Obama said melting permafrost and disintegrating sea ice present the risk of floods, fires and unimaginable economic damage. "The science is stark, it is sharpening, and it proves that this once-distant threat is now very much in the present," he said.

On September 02 2015 01:49 LaughingTulkas wrote:
I can't see why you guys have to go so far as to say she should be arrested. A simple firing would be fine. If she won't uphold the law of the land then she can't be an employee of the US government. There's nothing criminal in her behavior, she just can't do her job because of her religious convictions and so should find other work. There's no reason to be so extreme.

On September 02 2015 01:49 LaughingTulkas wrote:
I can't see why you guys have to go so far as to say she should be arrested. A simple firing would be fine. If she won't uphold the law of the land then she can't be an employee of the US government. There's nothing criminal in her behavior, she just can't do her job because of her religious convictions and so should find other work. There's no reason to be so extreme.

On September 02 2015 01:49 LaughingTulkas wrote:
I can't see why you guys have to go so far as to say she should be arrested. A simple firing would be fine. If she won't uphold the law of the land then she can't be an employee of the US government. There's nothing criminal in her behavior, she just can't do her job because of her religious convictions and so should find other work. There's no reason to be so extreme.

On September 02 2015 01:56 Plansix wrote:

The issue is that the local government has not fired her due to this court case. And she has not resigned or been forced out. But until the, the government is supposed to issue those license today, so they need to fire her or she is in contempt.

"There's no boss there that can say, 'You're fired,'" said Scott Bauries, a law professor at the University of Kentucky College of Law. "We sort of assume that the electoral process will take care of elected officials who refuse to do their job. But that's a problem if you want to get married and you're a same-sex couple and you have the right to get married."

Bauries says those who would want to get married would have to seek what's called a writ of mandamus - basically an injunction against the elected officials. That could lead to a court battle that could take months, or maybe even years, Bauries said.

On September 02 2015 02:10 farvacola wrote:
She almost certainly cannot be fired, but once the contempt proceedings get underway, the overseeing judge will likely force her to quit via the nature of the sanctions levied against her.

On September 02 2015 02:10 farvacola wrote:
She almost certainly cannot be fired, but once the contempt proceedings get underway, the overseeing judge will likely force her to quit via the nature of the sanctions levied against her.

On September 02 2015 02:20 Gorsameth wrote:

Contempt - fined - still not complying - fined again - still not complying - jailed - replaced.
Should only take a few years.