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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 01 2015 16:54 GMT
#42901
Bathroom bully bills — legislation that bars transgender individuals from using restrooms that match their gender identities — will form the next front line in the push for equal rights, according to transgender advocates who are readying themselves for the fight ahead.

“We are going to battle over bathrooms,” said Mara Keisling, executive director of the Washington-based National Center for Transgender Equality, on Friday.

While spreading awareness about violence against trans people as well as ending employment and housing discrimination will remain critical issues, Keisling said she anticipates that going forward, the struggle over the bathroom laws will be central.

Lawmakers in several U.S. states — including Florida, Kentucky, Minnesota and Nevada — have introduced bills in the last year that would prevent trans students from using the facilities corresponding to their gender identities while at school.

Meanwhile legislators in other states such as Texas proposed laws that would require adults and children to use the bathroom and locker room corresponding to their sex assigned at birth.

None of the laws have passed. “We beat them all,” Keisling said, “this time.”

School districts attempting to create such policies, she said, are violating Title IX of the Civil Rights Act, which protects public school students from gender discrimination.


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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 01 2015 17:25 GMT
#42902
President Barack Obama is poised to push ahead with the nation’s most ambitious environmental regulation in decades — a crackdown on power plants’ greenhouse gas emissions that the administration hopes will put the U.S. in striking distance of achieving a global agreement to combat climate change.

Environmentalists supporting the rule say they plan to be at the White House for a Monday afternoon announcement that they hope will feature the president himself, as part of what’s shaping up to be a major sales pitch both within and outside the administration. Allies including Virginia environmental groups, elected officials and green-minded business groups have also scheduled media calls for 3 p.m. Monday to react to the news.

The White House has not confirmed the timing of the announcement.

The regulation is expected to ease up on a few of the most controversial provisions that the Environmental Protection Agency included in its draft proposals in the past two years. But it will still set up a years-long legal and political battle with congressional Republicans and other opponents, who call it the major weapon in Obama’s “War on Coal,” and it promises to become a major point of contention for the 2016 presidential race.

The regulation also puts a capstone on Obama’s efforts to secure a legacy as the president who made a serious assault on global warming, without waiting for action from Congress — though he will have to depend on his successors to carry it through. States will also play a big role, with six governors so far indicating they won’t comply with EPA’s mandates.


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whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
August 01 2015 21:03 GMT
#42903
Hillary get got her worst favorability rating of all time in a new poll
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/poll-had-another-batch-bad-193000942.html
Shes looking less trustworthy then Trump at this point.
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
August 01 2015 21:08 GMT
#42904
Seems like Hillary peaked way to early and now its all just down hill from now.
Never Knows Best.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 01 2015 21:35 GMT
#42905
Blazes raging in forests and woodlands across California have taken the life of a firefighter and forced hundreds of people to flee their homes as an army of firefighters continued to battle them from the air and the ground on Saturday, a day after the state's governor declared a state of emergency.

Twenty-three large fires, many sparked by lightning strikes, were burning across Northern California on Saturday, said state Department of Forestry and Fire Protection spokesman Daniel Berlant. Some 8,000 firefighters were attempting to subdue them, something made incredibly difficult by several years of drought that have dried out California.

"The conditions and fire behavior we're seeing at 10 in the morning is typically what we'd see in late afternoon in late August and September," said Nick Schuler, a division chief with the state Department of Forestry and Fire Protection. "But because of the dry conditions, because of the drought-stricken vegetation accompanied by the steep terrain and winds, we're seeing fire activity that's abnormal for this time of year."

In the Modoc National Forest, about a hundred miles south of Oregon, David Ruhl, an engine captain from South Dakota's Black Hills National Forest, was killed fighting a fast-moving blaze. He had vanished Thursday while fighting the 800-acre fire and his body wasn't recovered until Friday.

The biggest fire was in the Lower Lake area north of San Francisco where firefighters had to wade through thick smoke and flying embers to turn loose horses, goats and other livestock in rural neighborhoods as their owners fled to safety. The fast-moving fire had burned three homes by Friday and was threatening 450 other structures. Only 5 percent contained, it had spread across 28 square miles and was growing quickly.


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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
August 02 2015 00:31 GMT
#42906
On August 02 2015 06:08 Slaughter wrote:
Seems like Hillary peaked way to early and now its all just down hill from now.

It's still early. Polls don't mean much yet, but Hillary should be concerned that she's not running away with the democratic nomination.

And is anyone really surprised at her weakness? I sure as hell am not. As I have said for months, no one really "likes" her. She has never been a strong candidate, and she has never won a truly competitive election. 2008 was her best chance at winning the presidency. It's not going to be any easier this time around.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 02 2015 00:46 GMT
#42907
Hillary's dominance among the Democratic field is actually hurting her in a bit, since allows the Republicans to start attacking her early, whereas the Democrats can't start going after a candidate in the concentrated fashion the Republicans are because the Republican field is still so spread out.

In the end though, every politician has mistakes and errors in their career - Hillary just needs to get the nomination and gather resources without taking too much perception damage, and really start hammering the Republicans away (I'm almost certain the Republican primary season will be longer than the Democratic one again this time). Worst thing that could happen is the perception that she's corrupt and untrustworthy sticks - then she'll have a tough time and the Democrats will be screwed.

Frankly, Sanders can't win a general election - the Republicans don't want to attack him because they want him to challenge Hillary and pull her even further left, but if he's in the general election, he WILL be eviscerated and would probably lose to any one of Bush, Walker or Rubio.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 02 2015 02:50 GMT
#42908
Ugh, can we just get Clinton-Sanders 2016? (I'd be okay with Sanders-Clinton 2016 as well)
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14098 Posts
August 02 2015 03:55 GMT
#42909
There are examples apon examples of republicans running train on being able to blur the lines between what the difference between a democrat and a socialist. Get a tape of the guy actually calling himself a socialist? Better give up on all those down ballot candidates and just hope you don't give up a super majority. on the flip side the same crowds that are following sanders won't turn out for Hillary in any strong degree if she tries to be anywhere near competitive in an debate.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23607 Posts
August 02 2015 04:02 GMT
#42910
On August 02 2015 12:55 Sermokala wrote:
There are examples apon examples of republicans running train on being able to blur the lines between what the difference between a democrat and a socialist. Get a tape of the guy actually calling himself a socialist? Better give up on all those down ballot candidates and just hope you don't give up a super majority. on the flip side the same crowds that are following sanders won't turn out for Hillary in any strong degree if she tries to be anywhere near competitive in an debate.


So is the idea those putting Sanders ahead of the republicans in heads up races just don't know he is a Democratic Socialist?
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1079 Posts
August 02 2015 04:19 GMT
#42911
On August 02 2015 13:02 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2015 12:55 Sermokala wrote:
There are examples apon examples of republicans running train on being able to blur the lines between what the difference between a democrat and a socialist. Get a tape of the guy actually calling himself a socialist? Better give up on all those down ballot candidates and just hope you don't give up a super majority. on the flip side the same crowds that are following sanders won't turn out for Hillary in any strong degree if she tries to be anywhere near competitive in an debate.


So is the idea those putting Sanders ahead of the republicans in heads up races just don't know he is a Democratic Socialist?

The idea is that the Republicans have not diverted their attention to him yet. One thing the Republicans do extremely well is smear candidates. They keep destroying each other in the primaries and certainly won't hold back against democrats. A surprisingly large portion of people still think Obama was born in Kenya. That he is a secret Muslim who is trying to install Sharia law while selling us out to his Middle Eastern buddies. And of course that he will destroy all their freedoms. Those are actual commonly held beliefs about Obama that have been perpetuated by the Republican party.

Sanders hasn't had to go through that yet in this presidential run-up. Clinton has and she's being viewed unfavorably by a lot of people because of it. The Republicans will be hands off Sanders until after he wins because they're hoping they'll face him and not Clinton. If Sanders actually wins a nomination over Hillary, then he will be the anti-christ who has come to destroy your religion, take away your freedoms, and turn the United States into a socialist hellhole.

They made southern Republicans believe that McCain had a secret black baby... smearing him on a personal level and drumming up bigoted dissent. What do you think they'll do with Sanders?
Playing better than standard requires deviation. This divergence usually results in sub-standard play.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23607 Posts
August 02 2015 04:28 GMT
#42912
On August 02 2015 13:19 RenSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2015 13:02 GreenHorizons wrote:
On August 02 2015 12:55 Sermokala wrote:
There are examples apon examples of republicans running train on being able to blur the lines between what the difference between a democrat and a socialist. Get a tape of the guy actually calling himself a socialist? Better give up on all those down ballot candidates and just hope you don't give up a super majority. on the flip side the same crowds that are following sanders won't turn out for Hillary in any strong degree if she tries to be anywhere near competitive in an debate.


So is the idea those putting Sanders ahead of the republicans in heads up races just don't know he is a Democratic Socialist?

The idea is that the Republicans have not diverted their attention to him yet. One thing the Republicans do extremely well is smear candidates. They keep destroying each other in the primaries and certainly won't hold back against democrats. A surprisingly large portion of people still think Obama was born in Kenya. That he is a secret Muslim who is trying to install Sharia law while selling us out to his Middle Eastern buddies. And of course that he will destroy all their freedoms. Those are actual commonly held beliefs about Obama that have been perpetuated by the Republican party.

Sanders hasn't had to go through that yet in this presidential run-up. Clinton has and she's being viewed unfavorably by a lot of people because of it. The Republicans will be hands off Sanders until after he wins because they're hoping they'll face him and not Clinton. If Sanders actually wins a nomination over Hillary, then he will be the anti-christ who has come to destroy your religion, take away your freedoms, and turn the United States into a socialist hellhole.

They made southern Republicans believe that McCain had a secret black baby... smearing him on a personal level and drumming up bigoted dissent. What do you think they'll do with Sanders?


Everything the 60%+ Americans expect and are fed up with. All that negative crap without any real solutions of their own. Even republicans are fed up with how infantile and pathetic republican representatives have been. If all they have is what is wrong with "the other side" they won't get more than ~40%.

But beyond that they have to figure out how to get past Trump. He's clobbering everyone, and nothing "the establishment" tries is working. Trump has gained support after what many on the right were calling the end of his campaign with his comments about McCain, his support of Single Payer (or that healthcare is a right), and his releasing of Lindsey's phone #.

They've basically put all their eggs in Walker's basket and Trump is going to keep laying into him on his performance in Wisconsin and the other republicans will have to do the same.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
August 02 2015 05:35 GMT
#42913
So, it looks like Biden might run. Who knows, but the rumblings are beginning. I'd definitely get excited about his run. Biden/Sanders '16 fo' lyfe
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 02 2015 14:03 GMT
#42914
Calling it the "biggest, most important step we've ever taken to combat climate change," President Obama said his administration would unveil the final version of a proposal aimed at curbing the amount of carbon pollution put out by power plants.

NPR's Scott Horsley reports that the new regulations are actually tougher than the ones unveiled by the Environmental Protection Agency in a draft proposal in June of 2014.

Two big numbers: The regulations require that power plants cut carbon emissions by 32 percent from 2005 levels by 2030. That number was 30 percent in the draft proposal. The rules also demand that 28 percent of a power plant's generating capacity come from renewable sources such as wind and solar. That number was 22 percent in the proposed rule.

As Scott puts it, these new regulations, which the White House calls America's Clean Power Plan, is the centerpiece of the Obama administration's plan to combat climate change.

"The administration has been pushing other big countries — China, India, Brazil — to take similarly aggressive action in advance of an international summit in Paris later this year," Scott reports.

Of course, this new regulation is already controversial and likely faces a drawn-out legal battle.


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heliusx
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States2306 Posts
August 02 2015 14:41 GMT
#42915
I was pretty skeptical of sander's chances myself but lately I've been seeing more and more bumber stickers... in Louisiana. It will be interesting.
dude bro.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 02 2015 14:41 GMT
#42916
On August 02 2015 23:03 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
Calling it the "biggest, most important step we've ever taken to combat climate change," President Obama said his administration would unveil the final version of a proposal aimed at curbing the amount of carbon pollution put out by power plants.

NPR's Scott Horsley reports that the new regulations are actually tougher than the ones unveiled by the Environmental Protection Agency in a draft proposal in June of 2014.

Two big numbers: The regulations require that power plants cut carbon emissions by 32 percent from 2005 levels by 2030. That number was 30 percent in the draft proposal. The rules also demand that 28 percent of a power plant's generating capacity come from renewable sources such as wind and solar. That number was 22 percent in the proposed rule.

As Scott puts it, these new regulations, which the White House calls America's Clean Power Plan, is the centerpiece of the Obama administration's plan to combat climate change.

"The administration has been pushing other big countries — China, India, Brazil — to take similarly aggressive action in advance of an international summit in Paris later this year," Scott reports.

Of course, this new regulation is already controversial and likely faces a drawn-out legal battle.


Source


Damn, Obama really going ham
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45243 Posts
August 02 2015 15:00 GMT
#42917
On August 02 2015 23:41 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2015 23:03 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Calling it the "biggest, most important step we've ever taken to combat climate change," President Obama said his administration would unveil the final version of a proposal aimed at curbing the amount of carbon pollution put out by power plants.

NPR's Scott Horsley reports that the new regulations are actually tougher than the ones unveiled by the Environmental Protection Agency in a draft proposal in June of 2014.

Two big numbers: The regulations require that power plants cut carbon emissions by 32 percent from 2005 levels by 2030. That number was 30 percent in the draft proposal. The rules also demand that 28 percent of a power plant's generating capacity come from renewable sources such as wind and solar. That number was 22 percent in the proposed rule.

As Scott puts it, these new regulations, which the White House calls America's Clean Power Plan, is the centerpiece of the Obama administration's plan to combat climate change.

"The administration has been pushing other big countries — China, India, Brazil — to take similarly aggressive action in advance of an international summit in Paris later this year," Scott reports.

Of course, this new regulation is already controversial and likely faces a drawn-out legal battle.


Source


Damn, Obama really going ham


Absolutely fantastic We really need to see even more plans and bills and real conversations being had about climate change and how to start fixing our global fuck-ups.
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whatisthisasheep
Profile Joined April 2015
624 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-02 16:34:51
August 02 2015 16:25 GMT
#42918
I hope Biden runs so he can give the average Americans a fighting chance. He will be a champion for the middle class

Biden is the only candidate who can unrig the broken political system and create a level playing field.
Please help me get in contact with the Pats organization because I'd love to personally deflate Tom's balls.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14098 Posts
August 02 2015 17:33 GMT
#42919
More people in Louisiana or something think that Obama is at fault for Katrina then bush.

Biden gaffes way to much to win the presidency he's a good vp though. Republicans are going to dig up all that tape real fast.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
August 02 2015 17:42 GMT
#42920
On August 03 2015 02:33 Sermokala wrote:
More people in Louisiana or something think that Obama is at fault for Katrina then bush.

Biden gaffes way to much to win the presidency he's a good vp though. Republicans are going to dig up all that tape real fast.

Did Biden do anything as VP besides be pushed into a corner where he couldn't say stupid things?
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