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Wolfstan
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada605 Posts
July 09 2014 00:30 GMT
#23161
On July 09 2014 09:20 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 09:16 IgnE wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:14 Introvert wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:03 IgnE wrote:
We know a lot about her.


And nothing that indicates any violent/ terrorist tendencies. Unless I missed something here.

One is using her first amendment rights without any harm to anyone else, the other was a terrorist who killed people.

Yeah, I'm not seeing it.


You know less about the girl on the right and now she's a terrorist who killed people?


I was going off of what I read from Johnny. From the other stuff I read online, the best guesses are A) a terrorist who is still alive and active, or B) a terrorist who killed herself some years ago.

At any rate, unless you can show otherwise, it would seem safe to assume that the two are nothing alike. One picture is not enough.

Shamelessly stolen from Holly's twitter:


EDIT: link broken.

https://twitter.com/BenHowe/status/486513179057745921/photo/1

But see? That's a stupid way to judge someone. And, just as with the above photo, the pictures aren't even that similar.

Edit again: we may have each been referring to the opposite person?


I dunno, but i think both girls are fine.
EG - ROOT - Gambit Gaming
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 00:36:10
July 09 2014 00:34 GMT
#23162
On July 09 2014 09:30 Wolfstan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 09:20 Introvert wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:16 IgnE wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:14 Introvert wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:03 IgnE wrote:
We know a lot about her.


And nothing that indicates any violent/ terrorist tendencies. Unless I missed something here.

One is using her first amendment rights without any harm to anyone else, the other was a terrorist who killed people.

Yeah, I'm not seeing it.


You know less about the girl on the right and now she's a terrorist who killed people?


I was going off of what I read from Johnny. From the other stuff I read online, the best guesses are A) a terrorist who is still alive and active, or B) a terrorist who killed herself some years ago.

At any rate, unless you can show otherwise, it would seem safe to assume that the two are nothing alike. One picture is not enough.

Shamelessly stolen from Holly's twitter:


EDIT: link broken.

https://twitter.com/BenHowe/status/486513179057745921/photo/1

But see? That's a stupid way to judge someone. And, just as with the above photo, the pictures aren't even that similar.

Edit again: we may have each been referring to the opposite person?


I dunno, but i think both girls are fine.


If the girl on the right is NOT a terrorist, or something similar, then sure.

But the entire reason that the meme was posted in the first place was to make a comparison- a radical Islamic terrorist with this Holly Fisher. That was the implication. If the girl on the right is not such a person, then whoever made the meme was being an (even bigger) idiot, and we would all be idiots for not recognizing it.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 00:38:02
July 09 2014 00:36 GMT
#23163
On July 09 2014 09:20 Introvert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 09:16 IgnE wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:14 Introvert wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:03 IgnE wrote:
We know a lot about her.


And nothing that indicates any violent/ terrorist tendencies. Unless I missed something here.

One is using her first amendment rights without any harm to anyone else, the other was a terrorist who killed people.

Yeah, I'm not seeing it.


You know less about the girl on the right and now she's a terrorist who killed people?


I was going off of what I read from Johnny. From the other stuff I read online, the best guesses are A) a terrorist who is still alive and active, or B) a terrorist who killed herself some years ago.

At any rate, unless you can show otherwise, it would seem safe to assume that the two are nothing alike. One picture is not enough.

Shamelessly stolen from Holly's twitter:


EDIT: link broken.

https://twitter.com/BenHowe/status/486513179057745921/photo/1

But see? That's a stupid way to judge someone. And, just as with the above photo, the pictures aren't even that similar.

Edit again: we may have been referring the opposite person?



No one is judging her for her posture. It's not the particular arrangement in space of her arm in a candid moment. She is knowingly embracing the symbols she has swathed herself in. Surely even you can see that.

The only difference between the picture on the right and the picture on the left is the particular brand of ethnic loyalty and the fact that the one on the left lives in an oppressive hegemonic terrorist nation while the one on the right lives in an oppressed occupied terrorist nation. What do you think Holly would do if a global caliphate had deposed a secular autocratic ruler in her Christian country, killed thousands of her countrymen, and left the country in shambles while the state's resources were being extracted by companies based in the caliphate?

From Holly's twitter:
I'm not a terrorist, but my husband has killed a few. #ftw

— Holly Fisher (@HollyRFisher) July 7, 2014
It is terrible to die of thirst at sea. Must you so salt your truth that it will no longer even slake thirst?
JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
July 09 2014 00:38 GMT
#23164
On July 09 2014 09:16 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 09:14 Introvert wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:03 IgnE wrote:
We know a lot about her.


And nothing that indicates any violent/ terrorist tendencies. Unless I missed something here.

One is using her first amendment rights without any harm to anyone else, the other was a terrorist who killed people.

Yeah, I'm not seeing it.


You know less about the girl on the right and now she's a terrorist who killed people?

I googled 'Holly Hobby Lobby' and a few articles popped up. Here's what someone at Slate wrote:

Holly Fisher is a right-wing online agitator who posted the photo on the left above last week after a similarly in-your-face image taken in front of a Hobby Lobby went viral. Her pose was soon compared to the image at right of Reem Riyashi, a mother of two from Gaza who killed four people and herself with a suicide bomb in 2004. (It's not clear who first put together the side-by-side comparison, which has been widely distributed on social media.)

Source

I also googled Reem Riyashi and got this, which is a bit, umm, weird:

Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 01:19:43
July 09 2014 00:43 GMT
#23165
On July 09 2014 09:36 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 09:20 Introvert wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:16 IgnE wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:14 Introvert wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:03 IgnE wrote:
We know a lot about her.


And nothing that indicates any violent/ terrorist tendencies. Unless I missed something here.

One is using her first amendment rights without any harm to anyone else, the other was a terrorist who killed people.

Yeah, I'm not seeing it.


You know less about the girl on the right and now she's a terrorist who killed people?


I was going off of what I read from Johnny. From the other stuff I read online, the best guesses are A) a terrorist who is still alive and active, or B) a terrorist who killed herself some years ago.

At any rate, unless you can show otherwise, it would seem safe to assume that the two are nothing alike. One picture is not enough.

Shamelessly stolen from Holly's twitter:


EDIT: link broken.

https://twitter.com/BenHowe/status/486513179057745921/photo/1

But see? That's a stupid way to judge someone. And, just as with the above photo, the pictures aren't even that similar.

Edit again: we may have been referring the opposite person?



No one is judging her for her posture. It's not the particular arrangement in space of her arm in a candid moment. She is knowingly embracing the symbols she has swathed herself in. Surely even you can see that.

The only difference between the picture on the right and the picture on the left is the particular brand of ethnic loyalty and the fact that the one on the left lives in an oppressive hegemonic terrorist nation while the one on the right lives in an oppressed occupied terrorist nation. What do you think Holly would do if a global caliphate had deposed a secular autocratic ruler in her Christian country, killed thousands of her countrymen, and left the country in shambles while the state's resources were being extracted by companies based in the caliphate?


Edit: That's not the only difference.

I'm not going to be dragged down this craphole with you, espeically when the chances are that the poster of the meme is NOT making the comparison you are.

They are comparing her to a radical, religious, and violent fundamentalist. I didn't see any greater commentary on hegemony floating around. Feel free to show me.

You are taking this in your own special way, which I suppose I should have expected. Not that your first post did anything to add any clarity to the matter.


"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-09 00:49:42
July 09 2014 00:44 GMT
#23166
On July 09 2014 09:30 Wolfstan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 09:20 Introvert wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:16 IgnE wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:14 Introvert wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:03 IgnE wrote:
We know a lot about her.


And nothing that indicates any violent/ terrorist tendencies. Unless I missed something here.

One is using her first amendment rights without any harm to anyone else, the other was a terrorist who killed people.

Yeah, I'm not seeing it.


You know less about the girl on the right and now she's a terrorist who killed people?


I was going off of what I read from Johnny. From the other stuff I read online, the best guesses are A) a terrorist who is still alive and active, or B) a terrorist who killed herself some years ago.

At any rate, unless you can show otherwise, it would seem safe to assume that the two are nothing alike. One picture is not enough.

Shamelessly stolen from Holly's twitter:


EDIT: link broken.

https://twitter.com/BenHowe/status/486513179057745921/photo/1

But see? That's a stupid way to judge someone. And, just as with the above photo, the pictures aren't even that similar.

Edit again: we may have each been referring to the opposite person?


I dunno, but i think both girls are fine.


Yeah, nationalism , religious zeal and an affinity for armed combat don't sound like a very bad combination at all . Both of these girls are walking caricatures of their respective countries. The only thing the hobby lobby girl has going for her is that the Christian way of ruining her country doesn't involve suicide bombing.
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
July 09 2014 00:49 GMT
#23167
I think the logical fundamentalist conclusion of any brand of religion is fairly obvious. I find the girl's comments under the picture to be the most interesting part.
MMT University is coming! http://www.mmtuniversity.org/
Jormundr
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1678 Posts
July 09 2014 00:50 GMT
#23168
On July 09 2014 09:38 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 09:16 IgnE wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:14 Introvert wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:03 IgnE wrote:
We know a lot about her.


And nothing that indicates any violent/ terrorist tendencies. Unless I missed something here.

One is using her first amendment rights without any harm to anyone else, the other was a terrorist who killed people.

Yeah, I'm not seeing it.


You know less about the girl on the right and now she's a terrorist who killed people?

I googled 'Holly Hobby Lobby' and a few articles popped up. Here's what someone at Slate wrote:

Show nested quote +
Holly Fisher is a right-wing online agitator who posted the photo on the left above last week after a similarly in-your-face image taken in front of a Hobby Lobby went viral. Her pose was soon compared to the image at right of Reem Riyashi, a mother of two from Gaza who killed four people and herself with a suicide bomb in 2004. (It's not clear who first put together the side-by-side comparison, which has been widely distributed on social media.)

Source

I also googled Reem Riyashi and got this, which is a bit, umm, weird:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XELcNMhkKCo

Do you believe everything you read on rt.com and ITAR-TASS?
If not you should take the israeli nationalist propaganda with a 50 lb bag of salt. The vehemently pro-Israeli and pro palestinian holocaust camp often makes shit up. This video may or may not be true, but without an actual translator it doesn't stand on its own.
Capitalism is beneficial for people who work harder than other people. Under capitalism the only way to make more money is to work harder then your competitors whether they be other companies or workers. ~ Vegetarian
JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
July 09 2014 00:57 GMT
#23169
On July 09 2014 09:50 Jormundr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 09:38 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:16 IgnE wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:14 Introvert wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:03 IgnE wrote:
We know a lot about her.


And nothing that indicates any violent/ terrorist tendencies. Unless I missed something here.

One is using her first amendment rights without any harm to anyone else, the other was a terrorist who killed people.

Yeah, I'm not seeing it.


You know less about the girl on the right and now she's a terrorist who killed people?

I googled 'Holly Hobby Lobby' and a few articles popped up. Here's what someone at Slate wrote:

Holly Fisher is a right-wing online agitator who posted the photo on the left above last week after a similarly in-your-face image taken in front of a Hobby Lobby went viral. Her pose was soon compared to the image at right of Reem Riyashi, a mother of two from Gaza who killed four people and herself with a suicide bomb in 2004. (It's not clear who first put together the side-by-side comparison, which has been widely distributed on social media.)

Source

I also googled Reem Riyashi and got this, which is a bit, umm, weird:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XELcNMhkKCo

Do you believe everything you read on rt.com and ITAR-TASS?
If not you should take the israeli nationalist propaganda with a 50 lb bag of salt. The vehemently pro-Israeli and pro palestinian holocaust camp often makes shit up. This video may or may not be true, but without an actual translator it doesn't stand on its own.

I had to google rt.com and ITAR-TASS to know what they are. Not sure why you think I'm interested in Russian media...

If the video is wrong let me know.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 09 2014 01:00 GMT
#23170
House Republicans proposed deep new cuts to the Environmental Protection Agency Tuesday to help pay for Western priorities including money to aid local governments and fight wildfires on federal lands.

The action came even as President Barack Obama sent Congress a $615 million emergency spending request to supplement wildland firefighting funds already approved for the 2014 fiscal year ending Sept. 30. And in his letter, the president challenged lawmakers to act on a bipartisan bill that would allow some portion of catastrophic fire costs in 2015 and future years to be covered by disaster funds, much as floods and hurricanes are today.

“This approach would provide funding certainty in future years for firefighting costs,” Obama wrote, “Free up resources to invest in areas that will promote long-term forest health and reduce fire risk, and maintain fiscal responsibility by addressing wildfire disaster needs through agreed-upon funding mechanisms.”


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 09 2014 01:21 GMT
#23171
I think it's very important to differentiate between Republicans and Republican Politicians.

Republicans are whatever. Republican Politicians are fucking nutbags.

User was temp banned for this post.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
July 09 2014 01:52 GMT
#23172
Who keeps electing the fucking nutbags?
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
July 09 2014 01:55 GMT
#23173
it's kind of puerile to say the american girl is more dangerous or some such. there is no need to go quite that far. just recognize the basic deficiency exhibited by close circuited thinking in each scenario and the harm they could cause.

We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 09 2014 02:13 GMT
#23174
Senior Republican senators are throwing their support behind House Speaker John Boehner's decision to sue President Barack Obama for allegedly failing to faithfully execute the law.

TPM put the question to numerous senators in the Capitol on Tuesday, and several of them suggested the House sue over the president's unilateral changes to Obamacare deadlines before and after the law's botched rollout.

"Sure, I think it's a good idea. He's violated law after law. How many times has he violated the Affordable Care Act?" Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said.

Asked for examples of Obama's overreach, McCain said, "The reversals of the Affordable Care Act in particular but a number of other measures that he's taken by executive fiat. He has abused his constitutional responsibilities."

Missouri Sen. Roy Blunt, No. 5 in GOP leadership, said he's "supportive of what Speaker Boehner is going to try to do in the House. There need to be quicker ways for members of Congress to intervene [once a president overreaches]."

Blunt told TPM there's a "very long list" of examples of Obama's overreach, "starting with all of the postponements, delays, rewriting of the Affordable Act Act. I don't think you have to look any further than that to find the first dozen or three-dozen of those kinds of overreaches." He also mentioned the president's new rules to combat climate change with pollution limits on coal-fired power plants.

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT), the second-longest serving sitting senator and former chairman of the Judiciary Committee, gave Boehner a thumbs-up but expressed reservations about the ability to achieve legal standing.

"It's an interesting principle. The standing is a very, very difficult thing for members of Congress. But he's come up with a unique way of getting standing. And look, there's something wrong with the president," Hatch said, echoing his colleagues' criticism about overreach. "So I'm open. All I can say is I'm open."

"Basically," he said, "having the House establish a right of action here is a unique, interesting way of approaching it. I'm not fully conversant with how they're going to do that. ... I think it's time the court allows standing in some cases. The president needs to live within the constraints as well and he's not doing it.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), a former lawyer and rumored 2016 presidential contender, also praised Boehner's idea but said it may not bear fruit until Obama leaves office.

"At some point, something needs to happen," he said. "The president has continued to ignore the law, continued to unilaterally take upon himself unconstitutional powers, and someone needed to do something about it. So I agree that this needed to go to the courts. The irony is by the time some of this is resolved through the court system he may no longer be president."


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
July 09 2014 02:25 GMT
#23175
Good luck with that! Typical right wing hypocrisy at play. Certainly Dick Cheney would approve of displays of executive overreach?!
MMT University is coming! http://www.mmtuniversity.org/
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24505 Posts
July 09 2014 02:44 GMT
#23176
On July 09 2014 11:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
Senior Republican senators are throwing their support behind House Speaker John Boehner's decision to sue President Barack Obama for allegedly failing to faithfully execute the law.

TPM put the question to numerous senators in the Capitol on Tuesday, and several of them suggested the House sue over the president's unilateral changes to Obamacare deadlines before and after the law's botched rollout.

"Sure, I think it's a good idea. He's violated law after law. How many times has he violated the Affordable Care Act?" Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said.

Asked for examples of Obama's overreach, McCain said, "The reversals of the Affordable Care Act in particular but a number of other measures that he's taken by executive fiat. He has abused his constitutional responsibilities."

Missouri Sen. Roy Blunt, No. 5 in GOP leadership, said he's "supportive of what Speaker Boehner is going to try to do in the House. There need to be quicker ways for members of Congress to intervene [once a president overreaches]."

Blunt told TPM there's a "very long list" of examples of Obama's overreach, "starting with all of the postponements, delays, rewriting of the Affordable Act Act. I don't think you have to look any further than that to find the first dozen or three-dozen of those kinds of overreaches." He also mentioned the president's new rules to combat climate change with pollution limits on coal-fired power plants.

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT), the second-longest serving sitting senator and former chairman of the Judiciary Committee, gave Boehner a thumbs-up but expressed reservations about the ability to achieve legal standing.

"It's an interesting principle. The standing is a very, very difficult thing for members of Congress. But he's come up with a unique way of getting standing. And look, there's something wrong with the president," Hatch said, echoing his colleagues' criticism about overreach. "So I'm open. All I can say is I'm open."

"Basically," he said, "having the House establish a right of action here is a unique, interesting way of approaching it. I'm not fully conversant with how they're going to do that. ... I think it's time the court allows standing in some cases. The president needs to live within the constraints as well and he's not doing it.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), a former lawyer and rumored 2016 presidential contender, also praised Boehner's idea but said it may not bear fruit until Obama leaves office.

"At some point, something needs to happen," he said. "The president has continued to ignore the law, continued to unilaterally take upon himself unconstitutional powers, and someone needed to do something about it. So I agree that this needed to go to the courts. The irony is by the time some of this is resolved through the court system he may no longer be president."


Source


With stunt after stunt and more money ($3.3 million) for the rest of this years Benghazi committee, than on the entire years Veterans affairs committee ($3.0 million) it couldn't be clearer what republicans are about in the house.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
jellyjello
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)664 Posts
July 09 2014 11:39 GMT
#23177
On July 09 2014 11:44 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 11:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Senior Republican senators are throwing their support behind House Speaker John Boehner's decision to sue President Barack Obama for allegedly failing to faithfully execute the law.

TPM put the question to numerous senators in the Capitol on Tuesday, and several of them suggested the House sue over the president's unilateral changes to Obamacare deadlines before and after the law's botched rollout.

"Sure, I think it's a good idea. He's violated law after law. How many times has he violated the Affordable Care Act?" Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said.

Asked for examples of Obama's overreach, McCain said, "The reversals of the Affordable Care Act in particular but a number of other measures that he's taken by executive fiat. He has abused his constitutional responsibilities."

Missouri Sen. Roy Blunt, No. 5 in GOP leadership, said he's "supportive of what Speaker Boehner is going to try to do in the House. There need to be quicker ways for members of Congress to intervene [once a president overreaches]."

Blunt told TPM there's a "very long list" of examples of Obama's overreach, "starting with all of the postponements, delays, rewriting of the Affordable Act Act. I don't think you have to look any further than that to find the first dozen or three-dozen of those kinds of overreaches." He also mentioned the president's new rules to combat climate change with pollution limits on coal-fired power plants.

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT), the second-longest serving sitting senator and former chairman of the Judiciary Committee, gave Boehner a thumbs-up but expressed reservations about the ability to achieve legal standing.

"It's an interesting principle. The standing is a very, very difficult thing for members of Congress. But he's come up with a unique way of getting standing. And look, there's something wrong with the president," Hatch said, echoing his colleagues' criticism about overreach. "So I'm open. All I can say is I'm open."

"Basically," he said, "having the House establish a right of action here is a unique, interesting way of approaching it. I'm not fully conversant with how they're going to do that. ... I think it's time the court allows standing in some cases. The president needs to live within the constraints as well and he's not doing it.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), a former lawyer and rumored 2016 presidential contender, also praised Boehner's idea but said it may not bear fruit until Obama leaves office.

"At some point, something needs to happen," he said. "The president has continued to ignore the law, continued to unilaterally take upon himself unconstitutional powers, and someone needed to do something about it. So I agree that this needed to go to the courts. The irony is by the time some of this is resolved through the court system he may no longer be president."


Source


With stunt after stunt and more money ($3.3 million) for the rest of this years Benghazi committee, than on the entire years Veterans affairs committee ($3.0 million) it couldn't be clearer what republicans are about in the house.


Are you implying that Senate Democrats are any better?
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
July 09 2014 11:52 GMT
#23178
On July 09 2014 09:34 Introvert wrote:
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On July 09 2014 09:30 Wolfstan wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:20 Introvert wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:16 IgnE wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:14 Introvert wrote:
On July 09 2014 09:03 IgnE wrote:
We know a lot about her.


And nothing that indicates any violent/ terrorist tendencies. Unless I missed something here.

One is using her first amendment rights without any harm to anyone else, the other was a terrorist who killed people.

Yeah, I'm not seeing it.


You know less about the girl on the right and now she's a terrorist who killed people?


I was going off of what I read from Johnny. From the other stuff I read online, the best guesses are A) a terrorist who is still alive and active, or B) a terrorist who killed herself some years ago.

At any rate, unless you can show otherwise, it would seem safe to assume that the two are nothing alike. One picture is not enough.

Shamelessly stolen from Holly's twitter:


EDIT: link broken.

https://twitter.com/BenHowe/status/486513179057745921/photo/1

But see? That's a stupid way to judge someone. And, just as with the above photo, the pictures aren't even that similar.

Edit again: we may have each been referring to the opposite person?


I dunno, but i think both girls are fine.


If the girl on the right is NOT a terrorist, or something similar, then sure.

But the entire reason that the meme was posted in the first place was to make a comparison- a radical Islamic terrorist with this Holly Fisher. That was the implication. If the girl on the right is not such a person, then whoever made the meme was being an (even bigger) idiot, and we would all be idiots for not recognizing it.

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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18876 Posts
July 09 2014 14:04 GMT
#23179
For something on the lighter side.....



A judge has thrown out Insane Clown Posse’s lawsuit against the FBI, saying the government has every right to categorize the band’s fans as gang members. The suit stemmed from a 2011 report that the law enforcement organization had tagged Juggalos as a “loosely organized hybrid gang”—something both Juggalos and ICP members Shaggy 2 Dope and Violent J didn’t appreciate. ICP has tried to sue the FBI twice, asking to declare it illegal for the bureau to draw parallels between the Psychopathic Records crew and known criminal organizations.

According to the Associated Press, U.S. District Judge Robert Cleland dismissed the latest lawsuit because the FBI’s report on gangs “does not recommend any particular course of action for local law enforcement to follow.” Meaning that, just because the FBI report calls the Juggalos—or anyone else—a gang, it doesn’t meant it’s necessarily trying to crack down on them.

Of course, Juggalos aren’t taking the decision lightly. In a statement released by the ACLU, Violent J says that this isn’t “the end” to the case, adding that Psychopatic Records will “keep fighting to clear the Juggalo family name.” “While it’s easy to fear what one does not understand,” he concludes, “discrimination and bigotry against any group of people is just plain wrong and un-American.”


Insane Clown Posse’s FBI lawsuit thrown out; Juggalos are gang members now

Though the future lawyer in me says something is not quite right here, my past experiences with Juggalos leads me to applaud the dismissal. Being sprayed by Faygo is not very fun.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
July 09 2014 14:38 GMT
#23180
On July 09 2014 20:39 jellyjello wrote:
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On July 09 2014 11:44 GreenHorizons wrote:
On July 09 2014 11:13 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Senior Republican senators are throwing their support behind House Speaker John Boehner's decision to sue President Barack Obama for allegedly failing to faithfully execute the law.

TPM put the question to numerous senators in the Capitol on Tuesday, and several of them suggested the House sue over the president's unilateral changes to Obamacare deadlines before and after the law's botched rollout.

"Sure, I think it's a good idea. He's violated law after law. How many times has he violated the Affordable Care Act?" Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said.

Asked for examples of Obama's overreach, McCain said, "The reversals of the Affordable Care Act in particular but a number of other measures that he's taken by executive fiat. He has abused his constitutional responsibilities."

Missouri Sen. Roy Blunt, No. 5 in GOP leadership, said he's "supportive of what Speaker Boehner is going to try to do in the House. There need to be quicker ways for members of Congress to intervene [once a president overreaches]."

Blunt told TPM there's a "very long list" of examples of Obama's overreach, "starting with all of the postponements, delays, rewriting of the Affordable Act Act. I don't think you have to look any further than that to find the first dozen or three-dozen of those kinds of overreaches." He also mentioned the president's new rules to combat climate change with pollution limits on coal-fired power plants.

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT), the second-longest serving sitting senator and former chairman of the Judiciary Committee, gave Boehner a thumbs-up but expressed reservations about the ability to achieve legal standing.

"It's an interesting principle. The standing is a very, very difficult thing for members of Congress. But he's come up with a unique way of getting standing. And look, there's something wrong with the president," Hatch said, echoing his colleagues' criticism about overreach. "So I'm open. All I can say is I'm open."

"Basically," he said, "having the House establish a right of action here is a unique, interesting way of approaching it. I'm not fully conversant with how they're going to do that. ... I think it's time the court allows standing in some cases. The president needs to live within the constraints as well and he's not doing it.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), a former lawyer and rumored 2016 presidential contender, also praised Boehner's idea but said it may not bear fruit until Obama leaves office.

"At some point, something needs to happen," he said. "The president has continued to ignore the law, continued to unilaterally take upon himself unconstitutional powers, and someone needed to do something about it. So I agree that this needed to go to the courts. The irony is by the time some of this is resolved through the court system he may no longer be president."


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With stunt after stunt and more money ($3.3 million) for the rest of this years Benghazi committee, than on the entire years Veterans affairs committee ($3.0 million) it couldn't be clearer what republicans are about in the house.


Are you implying that Senate Democrats are any better?

Of course they are.
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