On November 19 2012 22:08 Cillas wrote: why should the situation before the second intifada been acceptable to palestin in the first place?
As a question out of curiosity to an israeli. Why cant u create a single state with equal rights for everyone?
Short answer is not practical and both sides dont want it,
Yes I'm sure the Palestinians are sitting there disdaining the idea that Israel might treat them like actual people, as equals. Much too impractical, they'd prefer to be bombed, imprisoned and occupied, or that's the opinion I'm getting from your statement.
Once again you see what you want to see. They want their own state, their own government their own independence and their own power. The PLO have never even said "we want to merge" and Hamas will stop at nouthing to have their own state, from the Jordan to the sea.
I read his question wrong, I thought it said "why can't you create a state" as in a different state, my apologies. I would argue it is the Palestinians who want their own state, the Hamas are just there as the only safeguard, whether right or wrong it's hard to disown your own version of "freedom fighters" when no one else seems to care much about you.
But yeah, one state? Both are to religiously motivated to be able to co-exist.
On November 19 2012 22:08 Cillas wrote: why should the situation before the second intifada been acceptable to palestin in the first place?
As a question out of curiosity to an israeli. Why cant u create a single state with equal rights for everyone?
Short answer is not practical and both sides dont want it,
Yes I'm sure the Palestinians are sitting there disdaining the idea that Israel might treat them like actual people, as equals. Much too impractical, they'd prefer to be bombed, imprisoned and occupied, or that's the opinion I'm getting from your statement.
Once again you see what you want to see. They want their own state, their own government their own independence and their own power. The PLO have never even said "we want to merge" and Hamas will stop at nouthing to have their own state, from the Jordan to the sea.
Yep, it's the Palestinians that want all the land...
On November 19 2012 22:08 Cillas wrote: why should the situation before the second intifada been acceptable to palestin in the first place?
As a question out of curiosity to an israeli. Why cant u create a single state with equal rights for everyone?
Short answer is not practical and both sides dont want it,
Yes I'm sure the Palestinians are sitting there disdaining the idea that Israel might treat them like actual people, as equals. Much too impractical, they'd prefer to be bombed, imprisoned and occupied, or that's the opinion I'm getting from your statement.
The Palestinians will not now, or ever, tolerate Jews ruling over them.
They have never once in their life stated that they want to become part of Israel. They want nothing to do with Israel.
Ideally that involves a destroyed Israel, but they might settle for a two-state solution.
But as said, there isn't anyone on either side that wants a merger.
there is ONE side that doesn't want a merge and that is ISRAEL. if they accepted the refugees in west bank/gaza as israeli citizens israel would have a muslim governement. it's as simple as that and it's known for a long time... (just look up the refugee problematic)
also: you should stop talking about what the palesitians like/don't like because what you say is only bullshit and you don't represent them in ANY way.
On November 19 2012 22:08 Cillas wrote: why should the situation before the second intifada been acceptable to palestin in the first place?
As a question out of curiosity to an israeli. Why cant u create a single state with equal rights for everyone?
Short answer is not practical and both sides dont want it,
Yes I'm sure the Palestinians are sitting there disdaining the idea that Israel might treat them like actual people, as equals. Much too impractical, they'd prefer to be bombed, imprisoned and occupied, or that's the opinion I'm getting from your statement.
Once again you see what you want to see. They want their own state, their own government their own independence and their own power. The PLO have never even said "we want to merge" and Hamas will stop at nouthing to have their own state, from the Jordan to the sea.
Yep, it's the Palestinians that want all the land...
On November 19 2012 22:08 Cillas wrote: why should the situation before the second intifada been acceptable to palestin in the first place?
As a question out of curiosity to an israeli. Why cant u create a single state with equal rights for everyone?
Short answer is not practical and both sides dont want it,
Yes I'm sure the Palestinians are sitting there disdaining the idea that Israel might treat them like actual people, as equals. Much too impractical, they'd prefer to be bombed, imprisoned and occupied, or that's the opinion I'm getting from your statement.
Once again you see what you want to see. They want their own state, their own government their own independence and their own power. The PLO have never even said "we want to merge" and Hamas will stop at nouthing to have their own state, from the Jordan to the sea.
Yep, it's the Palestinians that want all the land...
It is the Palestinian arabs that want all the land and won't accept anything short of "throwing the jews into the sea" and creating a single arab state from the jordan to the sea. Whats your point? We should reward people who decide that attempting genocides is the way to get your side in the moral right with the world?
On November 19 2012 22:08 Cillas wrote: why should the situation before the second intifada been acceptable to palestin in the first place?
As a question out of curiosity to an israeli. Why cant u create a single state with equal rights for everyone?
Short answer is not practical and both sides dont want it,
Yes I'm sure the Palestinians are sitting there disdaining the idea that Israel might treat them like actual people, as equals. Much too impractical, they'd prefer to be bombed, imprisoned and occupied, or that's the opinion I'm getting from your statement.
Once again you see what you want to see. They want their own state, their own government their own independence and their own power. The PLO have never even said "we want to merge" and Hamas will stop at nouthing to have their own state, from the Jordan to the sea.
Yep, it's the Palestinians that want all the land...
It is the Palestinian arabs that want all the land and won't accept anything short of "throwing the jews into the sea" and creating a single arab state from the jordan to the sea. Whats your point? We should reward people who decide that attempting genocides is the way to get your side in the moral right with the world?
palestinian arab =/= hamas supporter fail logic you got there.
On November 19 2012 22:08 Cillas wrote: why should the situation before the second intifada been acceptable to palestin in the first place?
As a question out of curiosity to an israeli. Why cant u create a single state with equal rights for everyone?
Short answer is not practical and both sides dont want it,
Yes I'm sure the Palestinians are sitting there disdaining the idea that Israel might treat them like actual people, as equals. Much too impractical, they'd prefer to be bombed, imprisoned and occupied, or that's the opinion I'm getting from your statement.
The Palestinians will not now, or ever, tolerate Jews ruling over them.
They have never once in their life stated that they want to become part of Israel. They want nothing to do with Israel.
Ideally that involves a destroyed Israel, but they might settle for a two-state solution.
But as said, there isn't anyone on either side that wants a merger.
there is ONE side that doesn't want a merge and that is ISRAEL. if they accepted the refugees in west bank/gaza as israeli citizens israel would have a muslim governement. it's as simple as that and it's known for a long time... (just look up the refugee problematic)
also: you should stop talking about what the palesitians like/don't like because what you say is only bullshit and you don't represent them in ANY way.
They don't want a single state solution because for all the years there was one they had their homes and business burned and their people beaten, killed in the streets. Why would they want a state that will openly allow that and is encouraged by the newfound leadership of the country?
On November 19 2012 22:08 Cillas wrote: why should the situation before the second intifada been acceptable to palestin in the first place?
As a question out of curiosity to an israeli. Why cant u create a single state with equal rights for everyone?
Short answer is not practical and both sides dont want it,
Yes I'm sure the Palestinians are sitting there disdaining the idea that Israel might treat them like actual people, as equals. Much too impractical, they'd prefer to be bombed, imprisoned and occupied, or that's the opinion I'm getting from your statement.
Once again you see what you want to see. They want their own state, their own government their own independence and their own power. The PLO have never even said "we want to merge" and Hamas will stop at nouthing to have their own state, from the Jordan to the sea.
Yep, it's the Palestinians that want all the land...
It is the Palestinian arabs that want all the land and won't accept anything short of "throwing the jews into the sea" and creating a single arab state from the jordan to the sea. Whats your point? We should reward people who decide that attempting genocides is the way to get your side in the moral right with the world?
palestinian arab =/= hamas supporter fail logic you got there.
What are you talking about you Nazi scum! oh wait... Germans =/= Nazi's? And Jews =/= rich ? and blacks =/= gang members?
Hate generalizing stereotypical points of view, frustrates me to the end of time. : P You definitely caught his fail logic
On November 19 2012 22:08 Cillas wrote: why should the situation before the second intifada been acceptable to palestin in the first place?
As a question out of curiosity to an israeli. Why cant u create a single state with equal rights for everyone?
Short answer is not practical and both sides dont want it,
Yes I'm sure the Palestinians are sitting there disdaining the idea that Israel might treat them like actual people, as equals. Much too impractical, they'd prefer to be bombed, imprisoned and occupied, or that's the opinion I'm getting from your statement.
Once again you see what you want to see. They want their own state, their own government their own independence and their own power. The PLO have never even said "we want to merge" and Hamas will stop at nouthing to have their own state, from the Jordan to the sea.
Yep, it's the Palestinians that want all the land...
It is the Palestinian arabs that want all the land and won't accept anything short of "throwing the jews into the sea" and creating a single arab state from the jordan to the sea. Whats your point? We should reward people who decide that attempting genocides is the way to get your side in the moral right with the world?
palestinian arab =/= hamas supporter fail logic you got there.
How is that fail logic? Palestinian arabs support hamas thats why theres any problem in the first place.
On November 19 2012 22:08 Cillas wrote: why should the situation before the second intifada been acceptable to palestin in the first place?
As a question out of curiosity to an israeli. Why cant u create a single state with equal rights for everyone?
Short answer is not practical and both sides dont want it,
Yes I'm sure the Palestinians are sitting there disdaining the idea that Israel might treat them like actual people, as equals. Much too impractical, they'd prefer to be bombed, imprisoned and occupied, or that's the opinion I'm getting from your statement.
The Palestinians will not now, or ever, tolerate Jews ruling over them.
They have never once in their life stated that they want to become part of Israel. They want nothing to do with Israel.
Ideally that involves a destroyed Israel, but they might settle for a two-state solution.
But as said, there isn't anyone on either side that wants a merger.
there is ONE side that doesn't want a merge and that is ISRAEL. if they accepted the refugees in west bank/gaza as israeli citizens israel would have a muslim governement. it's as simple as that and it's known for a long time... (just look up the refugee problematic)
also: you should stop talking about what the palesitians like/don't like because what you say is only bullshit and you don't represent them in ANY way.
They don't want a single state solution because for all the years there was one they had their homes and business burned and their people beaten, killed in the streets. Why would they want a state that will openly allow that and is encouraged by the newfound leadership of the country?
what i said in short : there are no talks about a single state solution because it's absolutely not in ISREALES INTEREST. the palestinian opinion on the matter is UNKNOWN as in nobody ever asked them. i dunno what you are talking about though.
On November 19 2012 22:08 Cillas wrote: why should the situation before the second intifada been acceptable to palestin in the first place?
As a question out of curiosity to an israeli. Why cant u create a single state with equal rights for everyone?
Short answer is not practical and both sides dont want it,
Yes I'm sure the Palestinians are sitting there disdaining the idea that Israel might treat them like actual people, as equals. Much too impractical, they'd prefer to be bombed, imprisoned and occupied, or that's the opinion I'm getting from your statement.
Once again you see what you want to see. They want their own state, their own government their own independence and their own power. The PLO have never even said "we want to merge" and Hamas will stop at nouthing to have their own state, from the Jordan to the sea.
Yep, it's the Palestinians that want all the land...
It is the Palestinian arabs that want all the land and won't accept anything short of "throwing the jews into the sea" and creating a single arab state from the jordan to the sea. Whats your point? We should reward people who decide that attempting genocides is the way to get your side in the moral right with the world?
palestinian arab =/= hamas supporter fail logic you got there.
What are you talking about you Nazi scum! oh wait... Germans =/= Nazi's? And Jews =/= rich ? and blacks =/= gang members?
Hate generalizing stereotypical points of view, frustrates me to the end of time. : P You definitely caught his fail logic
Wow, my heartbeat raised a moment there, i was ready to totally insult you. Bleh, false alarm.
On November 19 2012 22:08 Cillas wrote: why should the situation before the second intifada been acceptable to palestin in the first place?
As a question out of curiosity to an israeli. Why cant u create a single state with equal rights for everyone?
Short answer is not practical and both sides dont want it,
Yes I'm sure the Palestinians are sitting there disdaining the idea that Israel might treat them like actual people, as equals. Much too impractical, they'd prefer to be bombed, imprisoned and occupied, or that's the opinion I'm getting from your statement.
Once again you see what you want to see. They want their own state, their own government their own independence and their own power. The PLO have never even said "we want to merge" and Hamas will stop at nouthing to have their own state, from the Jordan to the sea.
Yep, it's the Palestinians that want all the land...
It is the Palestinian arabs that want all the land and won't accept anything short of "throwing the jews into the sea" and creating a single arab state from the jordan to the sea. Whats your point? We should reward people who decide that attempting genocides is the way to get your side in the moral right with the world?
palestinian arab =/= hamas supporter fail logic you got there.
How is that fail logic? Palestinian arabs support hamas thats why theres any problem in the first place.
So i take it that you are an Obama supporter then.. And few years ago you were a Bush supporter? Before that you supported Clinton? Idiot.
On November 19 2012 22:08 Cillas wrote: why should the situation before the second intifada been acceptable to palestin in the first place?
As a question out of curiosity to an israeli. Why cant u create a single state with equal rights for everyone?
Short answer is not practical and both sides dont want it,
Yes I'm sure the Palestinians are sitting there disdaining the idea that Israel might treat them like actual people, as equals. Much too impractical, they'd prefer to be bombed, imprisoned and occupied, or that's the opinion I'm getting from your statement.
Once again you see what you want to see. They want their own state, their own government their own independence and their own power. The PLO have never even said "we want to merge" and Hamas will stop at nouthing to have their own state, from the Jordan to the sea.
Yep, it's the Palestinians that want all the land...
It is the Palestinian arabs that want all the land and won't accept anything short of "throwing the jews into the sea" and creating a single arab state from the jordan to the sea. Whats your point? We should reward people who decide that attempting genocides is the way to get your side in the moral right with the world?
palestinian arab =/= hamas supporter fail logic you got there.
What are you talking about you Nazi scum! oh wait... Germans =/= Nazi's? And Jews =/= rich ? and blacks =/= gang members?
Hate generalizing stereotypical points of view, frustrates me to the end of time. : P You definitely caught his fail logic
Wow, my heartbeat raised a moment there, i was ready to totally insult you. Bleh, false alarm.
On November 19 2012 22:08 Cillas wrote: why should the situation before the second intifada been acceptable to palestin in the first place?
As a question out of curiosity to an israeli. Why cant u create a single state with equal rights for everyone?
Short answer is not practical and both sides dont want it,
Yes I'm sure the Palestinians are sitting there disdaining the idea that Israel might treat them like actual people, as equals. Much too impractical, they'd prefer to be bombed, imprisoned and occupied, or that's the opinion I'm getting from your statement.
Once again you see what you want to see. They want their own state, their own government their own independence and their own power. The PLO have never even said "we want to merge" and Hamas will stop at nouthing to have their own state, from the Jordan to the sea.
Yep, it's the Palestinians that want all the land...
It is the Palestinian arabs that want all the land and won't accept anything short of "throwing the jews into the sea" and creating a single arab state from the jordan to the sea. Whats your point? We should reward people who decide that attempting genocides is the way to get your side in the moral right with the world?
palestinian arab =/= hamas supporter fail logic you got there.
How is that fail logic? Palestinian arabs support hamas thats why theres any problem in the first place.
god i don't even know what to say.
yes, mr. bush supporter, iraque invader, vietnam murderer and everything else the US GOVERNMENT ever did wrong, you are totally right with your flawless logic.
On November 19 2012 22:08 Cillas wrote: why should the situation before the second intifada been acceptable to palestin in the first place?
As a question out of curiosity to an israeli. Why cant u create a single state with equal rights for everyone?
Short answer is not practical and both sides dont want it,
Yes I'm sure the Palestinians are sitting there disdaining the idea that Israel might treat them like actual people, as equals. Much too impractical, they'd prefer to be bombed, imprisoned and occupied, or that's the opinion I'm getting from your statement.
Once again you see what you want to see. They want their own state, their own government their own independence and their own power. The PLO have never even said "we want to merge" and Hamas will stop at nouthing to have their own state, from the Jordan to the sea.
Yep, it's the Palestinians that want all the land...
It is the Palestinian arabs that want all the land and won't accept anything short of "throwing the jews into the sea" and creating a single arab state from the jordan to the sea. Whats your point? We should reward people who decide that attempting genocides is the way to get your side in the moral right with the world?
palestinian arab =/= hamas supporter fail logic you got there.
How is that fail logic? Palestinian arabs support hamas thats why theres any problem in the first place.
This is the problem when arguing with bigots... They have no idea what a generalization is so they just... say "well that's that!". Best to just move along with this one fella's, he's not going to understand how saying that Palestinians equating Hamas is a ridiculous assertion.
On November 19 2012 22:08 Cillas wrote: why should the situation before the second intifada been acceptable to palestin in the first place?
As a question out of curiosity to an israeli. Why cant u create a single state with equal rights for everyone?
Short answer is not practical and both sides dont want it,
Yes I'm sure the Palestinians are sitting there disdaining the idea that Israel might treat them like actual people, as equals. Much too impractical, they'd prefer to be bombed, imprisoned and occupied, or that's the opinion I'm getting from your statement.
Once again you see what you want to see. They want their own state, their own government their own independence and their own power. The PLO have never even said "we want to merge" and Hamas will stop at nouthing to have their own state, from the Jordan to the sea.
Yep, it's the Palestinians that want all the land...
It is the Palestinian arabs that want all the land and won't accept anything short of "throwing the jews into the sea" and creating a single arab state from the jordan to the sea. Whats your point? We should reward people who decide that attempting genocides is the way to get your side in the moral right with the world?
palestinian arab =/= hamas supporter fail logic you got there.
How is that fail logic? Palestinian arabs support hamas thats why theres any problem in the first place.
god i don't even know what to say.
yes, mr. bush supporter, iraque invader, vietnam murderer and everything else the US GOVERNMENT ever did wrong, you are totally right with your flawless logic.
Hamas is the governing body, regardless of how many actual supporters they have or don't have. Until there is a governing body that isn't a known terrorist organization I don't see how your point has any weight.
I was with the Israelis, when the rockets were launched from Gaza into Israel.
But this has gotten to the point of mass murder. The bombings by Israel are utterly disproportionate. They seemingly have no regard for civilians, as long as their target is hit. This has now turned into a 1-sided slaughter.
Israel has the right to defend itself and to retaliate, but they should not be allowed to relentlessly bomb Gaza with little to no regard for civilian casualties, bomb media stations, and continue to engage in mass murder 5 days after the rockets fired into Israel have mostly ceased.
On November 19 2012 22:08 Cillas wrote: why should the situation before the second intifada been acceptable to palestin in the first place?
As a question out of curiosity to an israeli. Why cant u create a single state with equal rights for everyone?
Short answer is not practical and both sides dont want it,
Yes I'm sure the Palestinians are sitting there disdaining the idea that Israel might treat them like actual people, as equals. Much too impractical, they'd prefer to be bombed, imprisoned and occupied, or that's the opinion I'm getting from your statement.
The Palestinians will not now, or ever, tolerate Jews ruling over them.
They have never once in their life stated that they want to become part of Israel. They want nothing to do with Israel.
Ideally that involves a destroyed Israel, but they might settle for a two-state solution.
But as said, there isn't anyone on either side that wants a merger.
there is ONE side that doesn't want a merge and that is ISRAEL. if they accepted the refugees in west bank/gaza as israeli citizens israel would have a muslim governement. it's as simple as that and it's known for a long time... (just look up the refugee problematic)
also: you should stop talking about what the palesitians like/don't like because what you say is only bullshit and you don't represent them in ANY way.
They don't want a single state solution because for all the years there was one they had their homes and business burned and their people beaten, killed in the streets. Why would they want a state that will openly allow that and is encouraged by the newfound leadership of the country?
what i said in short : there are no talks about a single state solution because it's absolutely not in ISREALES INTEREST. the palestinian opinion on the matter is UNKNOWN as in nobody ever asked them. i dunno what you are talking about though.
Because its not in a peoples interest to welcome a state where they are beaten and killed in the streets for simply being born .Would the Bosnian or the Albanians want a single state solution with serbia? You act like theres no clear and right justification for everyone in the world to prevent a one state solution. The reason why no ones asked them is because no ones dumb enough to do it.
And if you really want to argue that not all of the gaza strip supports hamas find one survey that doesn't overwhelmingly have the arabs supporting their actions? Are the palestinians in the west bank causing any problems for anyone else at the moment? All the problems that we're arguing about today are because the people in the west bank supported hamas, The problem is only going to go away when hamas goes away. What solution other then a full scale invasion is going to do this?
2 years old but just as relevant now as it was back then. Nothing has changed since then and nothing will change as long as Israels "solution" to the conflict is to let Palestinians either leave or stay and live like dogs in an open air prison while Israel slowly continues taking every valuable piece of land belonging to the Palestinians.
EPT
And Jews =/= rich ? and blacks =/= gang members? 
