Mitsy the self-proclaimed genius is at it again huh? Well hmm...
You can't develop a sense of timing if you become accustomed to just looking at what your opponent's doing everytime you're curious. Timing is infinitely more valuable than hacking as well, because your anti-builds will become more well-rounded. By hacking you're robbing yourself of the intuition it takes to beat an opponent shrouded by the fog of war. Hackers who turn their hacks off never know when to expect what. It's even more blatantly obvious to see than looking at the player's hotkeys.
So in a nutshell, hacking is a crutch and never allows you to develop the infinately important concept of timing.
banning him would be retarded. he hasnt said anything wrong and simply is stating his opinion. although i personally don't agree with his side of the argument he does support it and has every right to. by making this a huge flame topic your giving him what he wants anyway.
Hum.. Well bro, you make a lot of good points. Only thing you fail to mention is what happens to your oponent.. It is copiously selfish. Sure, YOU might accelerate your improvements.. But at the sacrafice of others. For the person playing against you, they won't learn as well by having their opponent counter perfectly their every move, build, etc.
I would have to agree with Murph on this one. Maybe using a hack would help you become better, faster... but steroids also let you build muscle faster. That doesn't mean there aren't other ramifications for using them.
If you find an old post of Testie's (I can find it for you) where he talks about hacking on these forums, you will notice he says that hacking is a huge disadvantage, because you get out of the habit of doing things like scouting, only making obs if you need them, etc.
he's had his admin status revoked there the forum's useless for him anyway, 99% of it's content is for stacks smaller than his pfr 'everybody's welcome'
Yes hack may be good for skill for some people, but we still shouldn't allow it because I everyone hates to play against hackers in ladders like PGTour or WGTour.
Hacks are things we must get rid of as quickly as possible.
On January 02 2006 20:23 cava wrote: banning him would be retarded. he hasnt said anything wrong and simply is stating his opinion. although i personally don't agree with his side of the argument he does support it and has every right to. by making this a huge flame topic your giving him what he wants anyway.
the problem is he always says the stupidest fucking things and makes the biggest deal out of the least important matters
he stays 'in the rules' but its so fucking annoying because he's a retarded argumentative cunt
congrats stimey another fakesteve post dedicated to you, another notch on the keyboard, another step closer to coveted internet fame. kill yourself.
Maphack is a crutch, and one that's hard to let go of. Once you start, it's not easy to go back to the fog. Yes, it can help you get better, but you won't be able to scout well without it.
The two good players that have hacked in the past that I can think of would be good without hacks and didn't use them much TMK.
On January 02 2006 21:13 Sacajawea wrote: Well if you need to hack to get better, because you have learning deficiencies, then you don't deserve to be good.
Hahaha, now I'm not going to say whether I believe it's true or not, but that isn't relavent. The discussion is about whether it helps or not, not whether you "deserve" the improvement. o_0
Having said that I can't see how hacking would help. Most of the good players that hacked in the past that Stimey is refering to only did it in major tournaments or games and only for a short period of time. They were also already good. So this is not evidence that a training routine of hacking would make you better.
Ehh, I suppose the 10000000 games these players who hacked once or twice are completly irrelevent? this topic has been overly discused, it is dumb, childish and makes absolutely no sence whatsoever. You wanna be good? Then play 10000000 games and you will be. If you hack it will make you worse for when you don't hack. Its simple. It does not help your timing at all. I understand what you believe to make you think that it might be so. But you are so wrong. How the fuck would it help your timing? The only way it might is because you see what he is doing. How the fuck you exposed to know the timing if you can no longer see what your opponent is doing. It makes absolutely no sence at all and enrages the boiling lava within me when someone states this.
EPT
