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i actually recommend map hacking

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mitsy
Profile Joined October 2005
United States1792 Posts
January 02 2006 10:34 GMT
#1
provided that you try to hide it and remain plausibly legit, i think hacking helps you improve more quickly. it's easier than watching reps after a game. you can learn the timing, the options, what to "scout" for more quickly and more precisely.

there is a myth that hacking "takes no skill" or "ruins your skill." i think we have found that to not be the case. many of the strongest players became strong while hacking (feel free to name names). many more probably just won't admit to this.

now if you don't try to hide it at all, sure it's stupid. but if you hide it well enough that you don't get caught, i think you're basically building your skills faster than someone who doesn't hack because you can "watch the rep" and play at the same time--you can alter your gameplan for each matchup more efficiently, you can brainstorm about it while playing, etc. etc. provided that you turn off the hack now and then (to test your gameplan against the darkness), i think you can arrive at a good gameplan and be more creative and aware of the options AND more trained in execution with HACK ON.
express yourself--madonna
wasted
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany1789 Posts
January 02 2006 10:36 GMT
#2
who needs a hack? just tell your opponent why you would like to see what he's doing and make him give you vision...
---gone---
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
January 02 2006 10:38 GMT
#3
Can we ban stimey yet, PLEASE.
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
mitsy
Profile Joined October 2005
United States1792 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-02 10:40:40
January 02 2006 10:38 GMT
#4
On January 02 2006 19:36 wasted wrote:
who needs a hack? just tell your opponent why you would like to see what he's doing and make him give you vision...

easier than asking. u ever tried asking people on bnet ANYTHING? let alone explaining something controversial or complicated
express yourself--madonna
karelen
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2407 Posts
January 02 2006 10:38 GMT
#5
old and boring discussion that needs no revival. dumbest thread yet this year
zzzzzz
mitsy
Profile Joined October 2005
United States1792 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-02 10:40:15
January 02 2006 10:39 GMT
#6
On January 02 2006 19:38 Sacajawea wrote:
Can we ban stimey yet, PLEASE.

why don't we ban you instead? what have you contributed in the past 3 weeks? everything i've seen from you has been OT, inflammatory, and reflecting no intention in discussing or even reading the topic at hand

On January 02 2006 19:38 karelen wrote:
old and boring discussion that needs no revival. dumbest thread yet this year

old and boring? wtf. when have we seen anyone suggest that hacking is a good thing?
express yourself--madonna
CoralReefer
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada2069 Posts
January 02 2006 10:41 GMT
#7
quit trying to create controversy
And this hot potato has vanished into thin air.
CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
January 02 2006 10:42 GMT
#8
I sometimes wonder if mitsy makes these threads just to argue.
You're pretty when I'm drunk.
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
January 02 2006 10:47 GMT
#9
On January 02 2006 19:42 CrownRoyal wrote:
I sometimes wonder if mitsy makes these threads just to argue.


You are one of the brightest people I'v seen on this forum yet.
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
January 02 2006 10:49 GMT
#10
Misty you don't even play bw, all you seem to be doing is trying to project yourself as contributing so you may get moderator status, thats your whole fucking point about being here for some reason. But trust me, that will NEVER happen.
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
Leejungterran
Profile Joined September 2005
Korea (South)572 Posts
January 02 2006 10:51 GMT
#11
ban mitsy plz

that realy STUPID start suject like that .. what you want ? more fag hacker ?

the game should stay legit , and no hack will dont help you .
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
January 02 2006 10:52 GMT
#12
Yes hacking can be good for you for many reasons. So can murder. Whats your point?
We allready know the benefits (seing opponent base)

If your only point is the "use hack gain skill" then I mean, why? If one are that serious, serious enough to use a cheat then one really wouldn't need the cheat would one?

Of course you gain skill by playing games, whith or without hacks. Maybe hack provides a little better learning but i doubt it. Shortcuts sucks when learning, and think about this

1. Your "feeling" could get worse.
2. Your nerves and offline skills would take damage

And also, if you accept it as a way of training, then why not use it all the time? Equally bad. The only thing of value in your post was the thought "you migh improve more", that might be true, but who cares?

"i actually recommend map hacking" lol quit trying to create controversy as ml1710 said.

Freezer_au
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Australia1461 Posts
January 02 2006 10:53 GMT
#13
Mitsy actually brings up some points that are interesting. I see hacking as evil and a way to not only cheat your opponent but also yourself. But it cannot be denied that a number of succesfull players got to where they are now with the aid of hacks.
Zeller
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States1109 Posts
January 02 2006 10:53 GMT
#14
i see your point .. but its unfair to the people you play...and then to take it further what if we all agreed that this is a good way to improve, and we have hackers playing hackers..?
Last.Epic , Epic[LighT]
NewbSaibot
Profile Joined May 2004
3849 Posts
January 02 2006 10:55 GMT
#15
On January 02 2006 19:41 ml1710 wrote:
quit trying to create controversy
I went to the chippy last night and only orderd chips because I knew I could get fish from her bushy plate.
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
January 02 2006 10:56 GMT
#16
i can seeing it being an ok learning tool, but i disagree with hiding it.
the only acceptable use to me would be between 2 training partners, or a group of close-knit players
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Freezer_au
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Australia1461 Posts
January 02 2006 11:01 GMT
#17
http://www.wgtour.com/member.php?datab=broodwar&id=210350

This guy is proud and honest!
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 02 2006 11:02 GMT
#18
On January 02 2006 19:56 CTStalker wrote:
i can seeing it being an ok learning tool, but i disagree with hiding it.
the only acceptable use to me would be between 2 training partners, or a group of close-knit players

agreed, not just anyone, but your mates
thank god for pgt --;;
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
d4d
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland1066 Posts
January 02 2006 11:03 GMT
#19
full of shit
luck is not a factor
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
January 02 2006 11:03 GMT
#20
On January 02 2006 19:38 Sacajawea wrote:
Can we ban stimey yet, PLEASE.


For the love of god, yes...
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
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