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jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
April 27 2012 01:27 GMT
#1081
On April 27 2012 10:11 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 10:04 sc14s wrote:
On April 27 2012 10:01 dsousa wrote:
On April 27 2012 09:56 sc14s wrote:
On April 27 2012 09:41 dsousa wrote:
I hope this meeting they announced to talk between Kespa and Gom goes well. I'm worried there might be a long period of segregation between the player bases so we'll be stuck with subjective opinions as to what would happen if Flash played MKP/Stephano/DRG/Nestea/MMA/MVP/MC/Parting.

If MLG had a summer arena with 7 current SC2 stars and Flash...... well then..... we'd have ourselves a show

They might decide to treat him like a young prize fighter though, and set him up with some easier opponents for a long while to build the hype and his W/L.... but if he doesn't play any of the top SC2 pro's we'll be left in limbo to know just how good he is.

flash doesn't do "other" tourneys since kespa wouldn't allow that anyways.


ie: Limbo . BW people will say he's amazing, SC2 people will say prove it.

If someone offers his a 25k showmatch vs Stephano, he's just going to turn them down? He's busy that day?

I can't wait to see what they do.... merger of two sports scenes like this.




you don't get it.. kespa wont ALLOW him to play anything not okayed by them.


When does God become a free agent?




Does any other team have a 3-year, $1 million + incentives contract ready for him?
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sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
April 27 2012 01:28 GMT
#1082
On April 27 2012 10:11 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 10:04 sc14s wrote:
On April 27 2012 10:01 dsousa wrote:
On April 27 2012 09:56 sc14s wrote:
On April 27 2012 09:41 dsousa wrote:
I hope this meeting they announced to talk between Kespa and Gom goes well. I'm worried there might be a long period of segregation between the player bases so we'll be stuck with subjective opinions as to what would happen if Flash played MKP/Stephano/DRG/Nestea/MMA/MVP/MC/Parting.

If MLG had a summer arena with 7 current SC2 stars and Flash...... well then..... we'd have ourselves a show

They might decide to treat him like a young prize fighter though, and set him up with some easier opponents for a long while to build the hype and his W/L.... but if he doesn't play any of the top SC2 pro's we'll be left in limbo to know just how good he is.

flash doesn't do "other" tourneys since kespa wouldn't allow that anyways.


ie: Limbo . BW people will say he's amazing, SC2 people will say prove it.

If someone offers his a 25k showmatch vs Stephano, he's just going to turn them down? He's busy that day?

I can't wait to see what they do.... merger of two sports scenes like this.




you don't get it.. kespa wont ALLOW him to play anything not okayed by them.


When does God become a free agent?



why would he switch when he gets the best salary where he is?
J.E.G.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States389 Posts
April 27 2012 01:33 GMT
#1083
he will come. he will fail. he will practice*. he will dominate

if * is true, statement is true. if * is false, no conclusion
Do or do not; there is no try.
thefonz
Profile Joined April 2012
Belize5 Posts
April 27 2012 01:40 GMT
#1084
On April 27 2012 09:17 snakeeyez wrote:
My opinion is too many players of a similar skill level in starcraft 2 with not high enough skill ceiling for a few players to really distinguish themselves. I mean the longest streak of domination was immvp but even he lost to a lot of random players even when he was at his peak. Flash might do a little better just with ability, but he will still lose like immvp does. There is nothing he can do better if he can I would love to hear what. Its not brood war he will not be as dominate there are too many hard counters and things like force fields that just remove micro no matter how good you are.
Starcraft 2 is good game, but brood war was better without going into big explanations.


After watching + Show Spoiler +
Maru
play last night, I could see how Flash would still dominate. Some sick mind games and great decision-making, plus sheer raw balls. Flash has the same mix, tempered with a lot of experience.
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
April 27 2012 01:57 GMT
#1085
On April 27 2012 10:27 justsayinbro wrote:
Am I the only one who is more excited to see the end of Elephant in the room with flash's transition? I mean leading up to his first broadcasted match there will be more of this debate but once flash shows how he will actually play one of you guys will be wrong while other is right


I don't think anything will be proven by a mere single match. This discussion won't end for a while after he actually makes the transition.
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
April 27 2012 02:21 GMT
#1086
On April 27 2012 10:05 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 10:04 sc14s wrote:
On April 27 2012 10:01 dsousa wrote:
On April 27 2012 09:56 sc14s wrote:
On April 27 2012 09:41 dsousa wrote:
I hope this meeting they announced to talk between Kespa and Gom goes well. I'm worried there might be a long period of segregation between the player bases so we'll be stuck with subjective opinions as to what would happen if Flash played MKP/Stephano/DRG/Nestea/MMA/MVP/MC/Parting.

If MLG had a summer arena with 7 current SC2 stars and Flash...... well then..... we'd have ourselves a show

They might decide to treat him like a young prize fighter though, and set him up with some easier opponents for a long while to build the hype and his W/L.... but if he doesn't play any of the top SC2 pro's we'll be left in limbo to know just how good he is.

flash doesn't do "other" tourneys since kespa wouldn't allow that anyways.


ie: Limbo . BW people will say he's amazing, SC2 people will say prove it.

If someone offers his a 25k showmatch vs Stephano, he's just going to turn them down? He's busy that day?

I can't wait to see what they do.... merger of two sports scenes like this.




you don't get it.. kespa wont ALLOW him to play anything not okayed by them.

KeSPA probably won't be able to do this with Blizzard firmly in the picture, just like GOM isn't exactly itching to dissuade foreigners from playing in the GSL. It's just bad business.


Honestly if Kespa don't realise the power of foreign tournaments then good luck to them, but they obviously don't understand SC2.

I don't think Kespa will do this if they're coming to the table with Blizz + Gom though.
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e4e5nf3
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada599 Posts
April 27 2012 02:28 GMT
#1087
On April 27 2012 10:28 sc14s wrote:

why would he switch when he gets the best salary where he is?


Flash's salary can't be sustained given the future state of BW as an esport. I know I sound like a pessimistic dick, but all the signs indicate that BW is in a slow decline in Korea.
King takes Queen
Rance
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada18 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 02:32:38
April 27 2012 02:29 GMT
#1088


I wonder if SC2 will ever be this big even with Flash...
VPCursed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
1044 Posts
April 27 2012 02:33 GMT
#1089
On April 27 2012 11:29 Rance wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aw-42JO3qk

I wonder if SC2 will ever be this big even with Flash...

do you remember the blizzcon GSL finals?
ipwntbarney
Profile Joined September 2011
United States141 Posts
April 27 2012 02:34 GMT
#1090
Just wondering, what is Kespa's incentive to keep Flash from competing in foreign tournaments? If MLG wants to fly him out for Summer Arena 3, why wouldn't they want him to go?
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
April 27 2012 02:40 GMT
#1091
On April 27 2012 11:34 ipwntbarney wrote:
Just wondering, what is Kespa's incentive to keep Flash from competing in foreign tournaments? If MLG wants to fly him out for Summer Arena 3, why wouldn't they want him to go?


Prolly cuz he would get roflstomped, at least initially. I believe they said the OSL will exclude GOM players for 1 year so that the BW players can catch up to their counterparts, although that may change due to the announcement.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
April 27 2012 02:41 GMT
#1092
On April 27 2012 11:28 e4e5nf3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 10:28 sc14s wrote:

why would he switch when he gets the best salary where he is?


Flash's salary can't be sustained given the future state of BW as an esport. I know I sound like a pessimistic dick, but all the signs indicate that BW is in a slow decline in Korea.

teams not games..
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
April 27 2012 02:42 GMT
#1093
On April 27 2012 11:34 ipwntbarney wrote:
Just wondering, what is Kespa's incentive to keep Flash from competing in foreign tournaments? If MLG wants to fly him out for Summer Arena 3, why wouldn't they want him to go?


Well, they really want players to focus on THEIR tournaments so that they get the better matches.

Look at how players that travel a lot tend to start falling off after while. As much as I love constant content players being too spread out may affect quality from games.Which KESPA wouldn't want
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
ipwntbarney
Profile Joined September 2011
United States141 Posts
April 27 2012 02:44 GMT
#1094
On April 27 2012 11:42 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 11:34 ipwntbarney wrote:
Just wondering, what is Kespa's incentive to keep Flash from competing in foreign tournaments? If MLG wants to fly him out for Summer Arena 3, why wouldn't they want him to go?


Well, they really want players to focus on THEIR tournaments so that they get the better matches.

Look at how players that travel a lot tend to start falling off after while. As much as I love constant content players being too spread out may affect quality from games.Which KESPA wouldn't want

Oh alright I see.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
April 27 2012 02:56 GMT
#1095
On April 27 2012 11:33 VPCursed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 11:29 Rance wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aw-42JO3qk

I wonder if SC2 will ever be this big even with Flash...

do you remember the blizzcon GSL finals?

not as epic as that tho..
lolboi222
Profile Joined March 2012
South Africa44 Posts
April 27 2012 02:56 GMT
#1096
On April 27 2012 11:29 Rance wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aw-42JO3qk

I wonder if SC2 will ever be this big even with Flash...


I know BW will never be that big again, but sc2 has a chance.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
April 27 2012 02:58 GMT
#1097
On April 27 2012 10:01 dsousa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 09:56 sc14s wrote:
On April 27 2012 09:41 dsousa wrote:
I hope this meeting they announced to talk between Kespa and Gom goes well. I'm worried there might be a long period of segregation between the player bases so we'll be stuck with subjective opinions as to what would happen if Flash played MKP/Stephano/DRG/Nestea/MMA/MVP/MC/Parting.

If MLG had a summer arena with 7 current SC2 stars and Flash...... well then..... we'd have ourselves a show

They might decide to treat him like a young prize fighter though, and set him up with some easier opponents for a long while to build the hype and his W/L.... but if he doesn't play any of the top SC2 pro's we'll be left in limbo to know just how good he is.

flash doesn't do "other" tourneys since kespa wouldn't allow that anyways.


ie: Limbo . BW people will say he's amazing, SC2 people will say prove it.

If someone offers him a 25k showmatch vs Stephano, he's just going to turn them down? He's busy that day?

I can't wait to see what they do.... merger of two sports scenes like this.






BW programmers wouldn't waste their time playing for money while online.

Offline or it doesn't matter to them, sadly in SC2 we don't have a choice now.
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iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-27 02:59:59
April 27 2012 02:59 GMT
#1098
On April 27 2012 11:56 lolboi222 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 11:29 Rance wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aw-42JO3qk

I wonder if SC2 will ever be this big even with Flash...


I know BW will never be that big again, but sc2 has a chance.


I doubt it. gamers from this era likes multi-player competitive games, such as mmo, fps, and dota, no matter the difficulty or "viewing pleasure", people are going to invest time that they personally play.

RTS is becoming more niche as years go by

sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
April 27 2012 03:02 GMT
#1099
On April 27 2012 11:59 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2012 11:56 lolboi222 wrote:
On April 27 2012 11:29 Rance wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aw-42JO3qk

I wonder if SC2 will ever be this big even with Flash...


I know BW will never be that big again, but sc2 has a chance.


I doubt it. gamers from this era likes multi-player competitive games, such as mmo, fps, and dota, no matter the difficulty or "viewing pleasure", people are going to invest time that they personally play.

RTS is becoming more niche as years go by


huh? from my experience its the complete opposite.. do you have any data to back up this claim of RTS becoming more "niche"? total number of players playing games like sc2 has certainly gone up so..
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
April 27 2012 03:05 GMT
#1100
As I see it, having a Korean SC2 SPL will almost end up like BW where the korean sc2 scene will explode exponentially and the skill cap getting so large between koreans and foreigners and koreans will only go to foreign events out of spite to show them who really is boss. There should be a global group to organize this kind of thing,
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