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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
Regular season doesn't matter. Team work doesn't matter. Our stars will just PEW PEW LAZZORZ all over your team. Whatever. I guess it's easy to see then why you like this style of basketball. Maybe Allen Iverson has a shot at coming back after all. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
On May 29 2012 14:57 Aerisky wrote: You guys seem to be fighting Miami fans [who think they will ezpz roll over all the other teams with their star power]...that are invisible. I don't see any bigoted/stupid Heat fans whose views are as blind you guys are representing. Maybe you participate on other forums where there are those types of fans or a lot of your irl friends are that way, but please don't take it out on us over here I don't like to participate in Internet Excuse me? These are exactly the views of the last couple of Heat fans. Shockeyy explicitly said 'regular season doesn't matter'. BlueRoyal can't understand why SA and OKC are regarded as better teams by some because he's basing it entirely on the value of the stars. If some people think that Miami is going to win and that their stars will outweigh the weakness of their bench then they can make that prediction. Don't make analysis-less posts, though. And don't make bizarre comments like 'they have a great supporting cast'. In the words of Sir Chuck, the supporting cast stinks. Probably the worst in the playoffs. In conclusion, even if you're defending your home team, please make an attempt at objective analysis. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
Shockeyy explicitly said 'regular season doesn't matter'. Only reason spurs have a winning streak is because all the teams they've played have been mediocre. OKC is the only team that you can say have a good chance at killing that streak. About Miami, they're going to take it this year and of course I'm saying this because I'm a Miami based fan. Live and raised in Miami, either way, celtics already see their demise, you can tell in there faces. They won't be much of a problem for Miami. He said no such thing. BlueRoyal can't understand why SA and OKC are regarded as better teams by some because he's basing it entirely on the value of the stars. Man, I hate how I keep hearing everyone say that okc/spurs are a better team. You can say that thy are deeper and have a better bench but I've seen some shitty % performances from both teams, just as much as I've seen Miami make poor performances. Lot of people hype up the spurs too much, especially given their insane streak that dates back into the reg season. Yeah, the guy clearly is clearly just saying "Miami star power into gg, our stars will propel us through, the reasoning behind why people think SA and OKC cannot even begin to cross my mind". I have no idea with whom you're arguing here. They do go out on limb on some of their statements, but way to straight-up assume you know exactly what he is thinking. Yes, I think the spurs are getting some well-deserved recognition right now and BlueRoyal may be underestimating SA. However, he is not utterly bewildered by the Spurs' recognition (as you make out to be case), he just personally thinks that they are overhyped (which I disagree with, I also think the spurs are a dark horse runner for the finals/championship who didn't get recognized). He may be tired of the massive pro-SA/OKC and likely (I can only guess) feels personally that some of it is over-the-top, but he is by no means asserting that it is incomprehensible that SA/OKC could be considered better teams, much less that the Miami stars will overpower all. If some people think that Miami is going to win and that their stars will outweigh the weakness of their bench then they can make that prediction. Don't make analysis-less posts, though. And don't make bizarre comments like 'they have a great supporting cast'. In the words of Sir Chuck, the supporting cast stinks. Probably the worst in the playoffs. The supporting cast is good enough to contribute to a defense with 4th lowest points scored against this year, 2nd best out of the teams remaining in the playoffs (to be fair, Celtics have some phenomenal defense). They're able to make some shots when they need to as well and yes, obviously they're not stellar especially in comparison to the big 3, who incidentally will be counted on to take more shots anyway. Today Battier had a double-double, Chalmers 9, and Miller 8. Bass had 8 for the Celtics and their highest bench points was an earth-shattering 6 from Stiemsma. Nobody is saying their supporting cast is fantastic. However they are able to pull their own weight often enough for the Heat to win and this effectively qualifies Shockeyy's statement that the Heat's passing and teamwork is solid. They get the ball around to whoever is hot--usually the stars--play smart, are capable of shutting down the opposing offense, and are able to keep their play tight. Deal with it. Time will tell how well they perform in the rest of the series and potentially against the western conference winner. In conclusion, even if you're defending your home team, please make an attempt at objective analysis. Right, because I'm doing the forum equivalent of running out on the streets and proclaiming overwhelming, inevitable Heat victory on the backs of the big 3. Don't insult me. I may not have extensive basketball knowledge, but I know when people are just beating up against nonexistent points or opinions. The vitriol you show over such meaningless things is incredible. I agree with most of what is said here and can see where people are coming from, because I believe in the intelligence and/or competence of all the posters in this thread, but clearly you are insulting Heat fans by assuming that we truly believe in a "big 3 ezpz win". We've won without Bosh already, with LBJ and Wade putting in great performances bolstered by a supporting cast that did what it needed to do. I'm not calling you out or trying to be offensive--I'm just tired of others assuming that Heat fans are idiots riding the Big 3 express, conducted by LBJ and Wade with Bosh as the engineer. | ||
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Saeglopur
Canada177 Posts
On May 29 2012 15:14 Aerisky wrote: Not to mention Spo is a pretty underrated coach as well, I think he really knows what he's doing. Lol are you serious? You really shouldnt be the one writing walls of text in defense of Heat fans' intelligence after making a silly statement like that. At this point, spolestra is just a punching bag and eventual scape goat. If it's spurs vs heat in the finals(to me this is already settled unless injuries to key players happen), spurs are going to break the league record for points scored in the paint. Spolestra will get raped so hard by Popovich that even Wade will feel sorry for him. | ||
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Bonzinator
Slovenia862 Posts
On May 29 2012 15:31 Jerubaal wrote: Excuse me? These are exactly the views of the last couple of Heat fans. Shockeyy explicitly said 'regular season doesn't matter'. BlueRoyal can't understand why SA and OKC are regarded as better teams by some because he's basing it entirely on the value of the stars. If some people think that Miami is going to win and that their stars will outweigh the weakness of their bench then they can make that prediction. Don't make analysis-less posts, though. And don't make bizarre comments like 'they have a great supporting cast'. In the words of Sir Chuck, the supporting cast stinks. Probably the worst in the playoffs. In conclusion, even if you're defending your home team, please make an attempt at objective analysis. Miami bench proved they can play and score when it's needed the most. That's all i care. The system they have is different then other high scoring benches in the NBA. No need for them to have sick stats at all. Other players in starting 5 can do that. If LeBron and Wade were resting, there was Bosh playing with the bench, there was always one guy playing with them. Bench was rarely by them selfs out there. So you can guess who got most of the touches. They don't have scorers and players who can create their own shots. All they have is spot up shooters and players that grind the minutes, try to hold the lead or reduce the opposing team lead and above all play defense. They don't need them to score 30-40 points. It's not their game or game plan. You can argue that, that is not a winning formula, but i would disagree. It's just the different system they are running. I don't think it will be needed against Thunder nor Spurs or even Celtics. Even though i have high praise for all 3 teams. They still have to reach the finals anyway. All that Miami has done is won 1 game. Plenty of grind left. | ||
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KamMoye
United States721 Posts
On May 29 2012 12:24 BlueRoyaL wrote: Man, I hate how I keep hearing everyone say that okc/spurs are a better team. You can say that thy are deeper and have a better bench but I've seen some shitty % performances from both teams, just as much as I've seen Miami make poor performances. Lot of people hype up the spurs too much, especially given their insane streak that dates back into the reg season. Miami should be down 0-1 to celtics if reg season meant anything come playoffs Spurs are 44-4 in the last 48 games Tony Parker has played, a 91.6% win percentage. They are 33-3 in their past 36 games. They are 24-3 in their last 27 road games. They have won 19 consecutive games. I'm not sure the Thunder are better than the Heat but the Spurs certainly are. If Bosh is hobbled in any way, shape or form the Heat do not have a chance. They should comfortably dispatch the Celtics, however, because the Celtics can't score. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16127 Posts
On May 29 2012 20:34 Saeglopur wrote: Lol are you serious? You really shouldnt be the one writing walls of text in defense of Heat fans' intelligence after making a silly statement like that. At this point, spolestra is just a punching bag and eventual scape goat. If it's spurs vs heat in the finals(to me this is already settled unless injuries to key players happen), spurs are going to break the league record for points scored in the paint. Spolestra will get raped so hard by Popovich that even Wade will feel sorry for him. To be completely objective, I think the series with the Spurs and Heat will be pretty competitive if that does in fact end up being the finals. That said, right now the Spurs just look amazing everything seems to be clicking. If they execute in the finals like they have been in throughout the playoffs I don't see them losing to Miami in a best of 7. | ||
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Chunhyang
Bangladesh1389 Posts
On May 29 2012 21:55 Bonzinator wrote: Miami bench proved they can play and score when it's needed the most. That's all i care. The system they have is different then other high scoring benches in the NBA. No need for them to have sick stats at all. Other players in starting 5 can do that. If LeBron and Wade were resting, there was Bosh playing with the bench, there was always one guy playing with them. Bench was rarely by them selfs out there. So you can guess who got most of the touches. They don't have scorers and players who can create their own shots. All they have is spot up shooters and players that grind the minutes, try to hold the lead or reduce the opposing team lead and above all play defense. They don't need them to score 30-40 points. It's not their game or game plan. You can argue that, that is not a winning formula, but i would disagree. It's just the different system they are running. I don't think it will be needed against Thunder nor Spurs or even Celtics. Even though i have high praise for all 3 teams. They still have to reach the finals anyway. All that Miami has done is won 1 game. Plenty of grind left. To win in the playoffs, you gotta play your top 6. Miami probably has the best top 3 in the league, and arguably the best top 6. They're built for the playoffs. Also, Wade and James both need to hold the ball a lot to perform. Thus the makeup of the supporting cast, who consist of guys who don't need much ball to perform. Boston will give them a game in the next one. Their resiliency is amazing, so difficult to kill. KG and Rondo are, reportedly, two of the most competitive guys in the league, and they're both crazy as fuck. I can see Boston beating Miami, but I don't expect it, because of Rayray's poor play ____________________ I can still see OKC winning this one. They need more Harden and they need more Ibaka and less Perkins. They'll still probably lose, but they gotta give Ibaka a shot. Lakers series is over. Perkins did his job and was magnificent then. Ibaka time. Just don't put Ibaka on Duncan though .He'll get headfaked out of the building [has he ever NOT jumped at a pumpfake?] | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
Tell me all the teams that they played that are even remotely as good as Miami? Oh and what's this here: Tue Jan 17 @ Miami American Airlines Arena, Miami, FL L 98-120 Pretty sure Miami will rock spurs in the finals. Especially with how Miami has been playing lately with two out of three stars and it's star bench. Stop coming in here and trying to trash Miami. We all know Miami will take it this year and people are just naive to see it. We already proved that with the ball rotating and Lebron/Wade combo we will destroy any team. Spurs only have a streak because of the fact they have played mediocre teams so far. Comon now, even Jazz almost had them every game and we all know they're Lol... Imo Spurs will beat OKC and then meet Miami in Finals and we will just 4-2 them easily. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On May 30 2012 00:40 ShoCkeyy wrote: http://www.nba.com/spurs/schedule/ Tell me all the teams that they played that are even remotely as good as Miami? Oh and what's this here: Tue Jan 17 @ Miami American Airlines Arena, Miami, FL L 98-120 Pretty sure Miami will rock spurs in the finals. Especially with how Miami has been playing lately with two out of three stars and it's star bench. Stop coming in here and trying to trash Miami. We all know Miami will take it this year and people are just naive to see it. We already proved that with the ball rotating and Lebron/Wade combo we will destroy any team. Spurs only have a streak because of the fact they have played mediocre teams so far. Comon now, even Jazz almost had them every game and we all know they're Lol... Imo Spurs will beat OKC and then meet Miami in Finals and we will just 4-2 them easily. Oh come on, if you want to pull out those kinds of dumb examples why not look at these two terrible teams Miami lost to  Wed 11 @ LA Clippers L 89-95 Fri 06 vs Memphis L 82-97 Then again we're supposed to forget about the regular season since things obviously change during them, right?  | ||
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KamMoye
United States721 Posts
On May 30 2012 00:40 ShoCkeyy wrote: http://www.nba.com/spurs/schedule/ Tell me all the teams that they played that are even remotely as good as Miami? Oh and what's this here: Tue Jan 17 @ Miami American Airlines Arena, Miami, FL L 98-120 Pretty sure Miami will rock spurs in the finals. Especially with how Miami has been playing lately with two out of three stars and it's star bench. Stop coming in here and trying to trash Miami. We all know Miami will take it this year and people are just naive to see it. We already proved that with the ball rotating and Lebron/Wade combo we will destroy any team. Spurs only have a streak because of the fact they have played mediocre teams so far. Comon now, even Jazz almost had them every game and we all know they're Lol... Imo Spurs will beat OKC and then meet Miami in Finals and we will just 4-2 them easily. Delusional fans, every team has 'em | ||
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XoXiDe
United States620 Posts
On May 30 2012 00:40 ShoCkeyy wrote: http://www.nba.com/spurs/schedule/ Tell me all the teams that they played that are even remotely as good as Miami? Oh and what's this here: Tue Jan 17 @ Miami American Airlines Arena, Miami, FL L 98-120 Pretty sure Miami will rock spurs in the finals. Especially with how Miami has been playing lately with two out of three stars and it's star bench. Stop coming in here and trying to trash Miami. We all know Miami will take it this year and people are just naive to see it. We already proved that with the ball rotating and Lebron/Wade combo we will destroy any team. Spurs only have a streak because of the fact they have played mediocre teams so far. Comon now, even Jazz almost had them every game and we all know they're Lol... Imo Spurs will beat OKC and then meet Miami in Finals and we will just 4-2 them easily. Richard Jefferson was still on the team at the time, Dejuan Blair was starting, Spurs didn't have Stephen Jackson or Manu Ginobili or Boris Diaw, they lost to a lot of terrible teams that month, if you want to form your opinion on that, that's fine. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On May 30 2012 01:25 XoXiDe wrote: Richard Jefferson was still on the team at the time, Dejuan Blair was starting, Spurs didn't have Stephen Jackson or Manu Ginobili or Boris Diaw, they lost to a lot of terrible teams that month, if you want to form your opinion on that, that's fine. Very true, but of course I'm going to always be biased since I have said it before; I'm a hardcore Miami fan and I still say Miami will take it. The stats are showing miami will still be very good against the Celtics and against Spurs. The day we played against the clippers, we played terrible: James with 23 points? Lol, he easily makes 30+ points a game. That really says a lot. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On May 30 2012 01:32 ShoCkeyy wrote: Very true, but of course I'm going to always be biased since I have said it before; I'm a hardcore Miami fan and I still say Miami will take it. The stats are showing miami will still be very good against the Celtics and against Spurs. The day we played against the clippers, we played terrible: James with 23 points? Lol, he easily makes 30+ points a game. That really says a lot. Of course they will do "very good". Lebron is unguardable. The Spurs can't do to him what they did to CP3 because he is 6'8" not 6'1". That said, the Spurs won't be cakewalked and James doesn't easily make 30+ PPG (that would win him a scoring title), he does other things much better than scoring. | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
 In seriousness though, you said "the stats are showing miami will still be very good against the Celtics and against Spurs." Care to show or share some of these stats? I am not saying you are wrong (I actually think MIA-SAS would be a great series as well) but just interested. All the talk about the Spurs streak and their opponents made me want to repost this from a few pages back. On May 27 2012 23:57 MassHysteria wrote: And..."(Spurs) have outscored opponents by about 15 points per 100 possessions in the last 30 games. The 1995-96 Bulls, the winningest team in league history, outscored opponents by 13.6 points per 100 possessions, the largest recorded margin." ( http://nba-point-forward.si.com/2012/05/25/spurs-thunder/#?sct=nba_t12_a0 ) The mention of the Spurs' opponents not being tip-top during their streak is legit but it is important to also note the way they have been beating these teams. We aren't talking about some mere 3-point victories here. With that said, I am not trying to say SAS is already into the finals, but if they do make it, MIA will still pose a big problem for SA and I don't think there is that much of a guarantee SA comes out on top. I can't count out Miami yet. | ||
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