EPTWhat about if he is just going standard reaver (no cutting probes for the two zealots) and then goes the classic 2 zeal 1 tank drop? What is the best combo of units to get or upgrades?
How to beat 2 zeal 1 Reaver drop?
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exalted
United States3612 Posts
What about if he is just going standard reaver (no cutting probes for the two zealots) and then goes the classic 2 zeal 1 tank drop? What is the best combo of units to get or upgrades? | ||
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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pfff
Belgium1352 Posts
his reav drop should do almost no dmg, and you can then do some cool micro tricks with 1 ship with 2 tanks and a wraith vs 1 shuttle and 2 goons, if you can kill his shuttle with youre wraith (works often if it already took dmg when he tried dropping his reav), he will have to wait for a new one before he can expo. this build is pretty weak if he goes for a normal (not special 6v9) build, but you should scout this and adapt to it, only get the wraith if you know hes going for early drops. i never try to drop his min line early with my ship, tosses always see this coming and youll just lose a tank or maybe even the ship. | ||
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Resonate
United Kingdom8402 Posts
oh also, make sure u can see the minerals at your natural with a building or something. You may need to be able to transfer your units there in a hurry when he drops, and u ant them to go through each other, not hitting. | ||
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Kane
Poland114 Posts
baisicly yo should def easli your sv with 2 turets and 1 tank (if you only watch good on map) | ||
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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azndng
United States344 Posts
orrrr if you know he's going reaver drop. make like 6-8 rines, send them with 8 scv's and attack his front. ifyou got good micro should be game =) | ||
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MVP[eV]
United States270 Posts
On May 18 2005 09:20 azndng wrote: place mines strategically... or just invisible some turrets and leave tanks near cc... then wait for the drop. then after you gg the reaver, pick your tanks up (1fact-->port build) and drop him... while you expo. orrrr if you know he's going reaver drop. make like 6-8 rines, send them with 8 scv's and attack his front. ifyou got good micro should be game =) No. Everyone drops a zeal first to absorb any mines that have been placed, then the reaver. Vultures don't do shit to reavers, especially if micro'd with a shuttle. Making 8 marines is a waste of minerals and a gamble. You need a quicker ebay and tanks or a wraith if you know he wont be dropping any goons. | ||
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LastWish
2015 Posts
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FroST(TE)
United States909 Posts
sucker -_- <--p player ;p! | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On May 18 2005 09:20 azndng wrote: place mines strategically... or just invisible some turrets and leave tanks near cc... then wait for the drop. then after you gg the reaver, pick your tanks up (1fact-->port build) and drop him... while you expo. orrrr if you know he's going reaver drop. make like 6-8 rines, send them with 8 scv's and attack his front. ifyou got good micro should be game =) When protoss players go for a reaver, they typically make 2 zealots, which basically rapes marines together with the goon + ramp  Not to mention the fact that there's a reaver just around the corner! | ||
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
if shuttle and reaver is dead then exp right away make 6 fact stop scv production pump non-stop and steam-roll if shuttle and reaver escaped then whatever you want -_-; | ||
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pfff
Belgium1352 Posts
he said its 9v6 where the toss goes for very early 2 zeal 1 goon drop to try to either take out youre tank or atleast slow down youre turrets. if you dont get rines vs this and you 1 fac port you are automatically dead, youre going to have so many trouble saving youre 1 tank, and when the reav comes, youre dead. best thing to do is to get like 3-4 rines, so you dont lose youre tank vs the first drop, and then get a wraith + siege vs the second drop. you dont need a bay if you get a wraith. 2 fac tanking is also good, but this is imo a worse build then fac port if he doesnt try to drop/doesnt follow his first drop up with reavs. marines are way useless against this, firstly it is important to scout it, make any gay attempt to scan toss tech even gather trick. If u know he is robo early or even see bay, u may eigher go engeneering bay(turrets) with siege tanks into expand. Or starport with the wraith... | ||
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Peatza
Sweden393 Posts
On May 18 2005 07:18 exalted wrote: I think reaver is just so strong in early TvP Almost funny, Reaver to powerful? Turrets is simply your best defence, Shuttle dies insanely fast. I can show you many replays where Terran players easily defeats Reaver drop by swiftly get turrets at the right moment. You need to place your tanks and turrets well. Very often a well defended mineral line provokes some major mistake by the Protoss. If Protoss don't manage to kill some scv then he's been set on a major drawback, expand and macro hard. | ||
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SatAere
United States396 Posts
Yes fact port is good to get wraith ... But i think another viable strategy is gundam to play mines around base + u get tanks ---> port for a wraith and drops to drop vult/tank ive been doing it recently and it seems to be a strong counter | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
hunt the first shuttle and you will win | ||
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SatAere
United States396 Posts
On May 18 2005 15:58 {ToT}Strafe wrote: honestly go 2 starport with addon for cloacked wraith hunt the first shuttle and you will win lol ill try that ... pretty much over if they just go obs on ur ass tho  | ||
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Casper...
Liberia4948 Posts
aggressively hunt/kill shuttle, manage your defense and win pumping 2 volleys into it before he even loads makes a huge difference | ||
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hasuwar
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Sorrow_eyes
United States1007 Posts
actually, do what hasuwar says. | ||
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mightypenny
Philippines163 Posts
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exalted
United States3612 Posts
On May 18 2005 21:39 mightypenny wrote: Two Fac Tank is the safest way... Then expo right after his harrass... and ofcourse, u need to have a good micro to pull it off::: scv repair... No, Pff's advice for the most part is correct - vs this build it is best to go 3 rines, fact port, wraith, bay isn't really required vs wraith but today I played a Protoss that went for DT drop instead of Reaver so I think it's still a good strat to get it - also a side note is that you can float the barracks early becuase the walking distance is so far and the scouting is just so good (you have the rines + tank anyway in the case that he tries to goon rush or something) Thanks for the comments, I think what's also crucial is getting the siege tank protected by turrets and being able to run away the scvs (ideally through maynarding) - a lot of the times I just funnel them back and forth from gas and minerals in the attempt to nullify the scarab (and lose 39 scv instead =]) | ||
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LastWish
2015 Posts
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pfff
Belgium1352 Posts
On May 19 2005 02:27 exalted wrote: No, Pff's advice for the most part is correct - vs this build it is best to go 3 rines, fact port, wraith, bay isn't really required vs wraith but today I played a Protoss that went for DT drop instead of Reaver so I think it's still a good strat to get it - also a side note is that you can float the barracks early becuase the walking distance is so far and the scouting is just so good (you have the rines + tank anyway in the case that he tries to goon rush or something) Thanks for the comments, I think what's also crucial is getting the siege tank protected by turrets and being able to run away the scvs (ideally through maynarding) - a lot of the times I just funnel them back and forth from gas and minerals in the attempt to nullify the scarab (and lose 39 scv instead =]) nah, if you get a wraith, a dt drop isnt a problem, you should have perfect scouting with the wraith. | ||
Liquid`Daaman
Sweden1225 Posts
2fact provides: 1tank, 1vult, 3 rines.. u dont die shit vs the 2zeas+goon if u use the units well! i remember usually getting enough units in time for the next threat..  ohwell~~ | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28775 Posts
scouting with rax is often good 6 vs 9 or 9 vs 6. | ||
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January
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exalted
United States3612 Posts
On May 19 2005 06:34 January wrote: Micro. Thanks man. | ||
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Fayth[pG]
Canada1093 Posts
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SojT
United States789 Posts
as long as you scout it and know that it's coming, reaver shouldn't be much of a problem. | ||
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LastWish
2015 Posts
On May 19 2005 06:01 Liquid`Drone wrote: lastwish part of the reason why you want to scout is to see how early you have to build your ebay. scouting with ebay is nice but it obviously doesn't help with that. scouting with rax is often good 6 vs 9 or 9 vs 6. I'm sure an scv can serve perfectly for an early scout. | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
anyone tried my double port ownage strat? | ||
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ssj5
Afghanistan10 Posts
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A3iL3r0n
United States2196 Posts
On May 19 2005 10:39 {ToT}Strafe wrote: appearantly you being sure doesnt mean much! anyone tried my double port ownage strat? Yeah. It's a lot of fun :D | ||
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suxN
Finland1167 Posts
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chrusher97
Canada811 Posts
On January 13 2006 15:52 ssj5 wrote: no Wtf why would you bump this thread just to say that | ||
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omgbnetsux
United States3749 Posts
On January 13 2006 15:52 ssj5 wrote: no Profound. | ||
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ahk-gosu
Korea (South)2099 Posts
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ahk-gosu
Korea (South)2099 Posts
scout harass macro micro. good key elements of the game in my opinion. scouting is vital. youd be amazed how hard it is to beat a protoss that uses observers correctly in pvt | ||
Empyrean
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RiSE
United States3182 Posts
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mcmascote
Brazil1575 Posts
On January 13 2006 18:46 chrusher97 wrote: Wtf why would you bump this thread just to say that probably he tried it (2port) and got owned ;p | ||
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ChApFoU
France2983 Posts
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ferox
Canada3 Posts
straight up reaver vs tank is a difficult matchup for reaver IMHO... And don't forget that scarabs are land units, with all the advantages and disadvantages therein... | ||
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iG.ErlinGho
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