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So this is a bit of a rewind but essentially I am wondering if EG forced Idra to leave Korea after GSL January over a sponsorship issue. It would certainly fit with EGs track record. A bit of evidence:
Here we have EG Idra in GSL January in Code S Ro8. After this Idra suddenly leaves Korea following his most successful run in the GSL.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kY7fQ.png)
Here we have Jinro in GSL March (there was no February GSL). Note the Razer Banshee headset sported by the manly Chinro. Starting in GSL March these headsets became standard attire for GLS players. Wearing the Razer headsets would be a conflict of interest for EG players who are sponsored by Steelseries, a Razer competitor.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3aern.png)
Now that Huk is playing for EG we see him without the Razer headset.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/XWM0P.png)
At the same time, Idra moves back to Korea. It seems EG finally worked out a deal with GomTV. Has anyone else thought about this? I mean, I understand EGs efforts in protecting their sponsors, but if this truly is the case... it just seems kinda shitty.
-Cent
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You mean Ro8? Idra never made it to the Ro4 if I remember correctly. Only Jinro did. And I think you're reading too much into this haha, but interesting theory.
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You really think that EG would fly idra out of korea over some fuxing headsets? Do you realize how difficult and expensive it is to move people internationally?
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Idra left Korea because out the number of major tournaments starting in the US. Its not a conspiracy.
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Doubt Gom would ban one of their all-time most popular attractions instead of saying "Ok, wear generic ear-buds."
Not to mention that other players bring their own headset all the time.
And IdrA has spoken at length about simply preferring America and the foreign scene over the GSL.
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this shud added to the Esport Drama thread
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tbh. i never have really looked at the headsets when i watch the gsl. but i guess maybe. did huk wear a different headset when he played for liquid. if he didn't well then i don't think there is a correlation.
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On September 23 2011 14:12 chocolatebunny wrote:
tbh. i never have really looked at the headsets when i watch the gsl. but i guess maybe. did huk wear a different headset when he played for liquid. if he didn't well then i don't think there is a correlation.
He wore the Razer headset.
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Hahahah, interesting theory. I never noticed that Huk wore a different headset o.o
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Idra had been complaining for months that the only thing in Korea was the GSL, and he probably just missed being home in the States after years and years in Korea.
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IdrA left Korea because the green mushroom eating banana people were threatening him for his BM, and IdrA said that he would rather continue being BM than give into the GMEBP terrorist demands.
That or the headset thing. Both seem equally likely.
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If this is true, EG really fucks their players over by their shitty sponsorship deals. Just think Incontrol and SotG.
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Idra lived in Korea for +/-3 years, most of the time in a house with almost none to talk with. US had major tournaments starting so it was worth to leave. Nothing shady here.
And if they would've forced him.. well it turned out to be great didn't it? Well maybe not skill-wise but look at the other things he is doing/has done now.
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As much as Steelseries probably want to be represented by the players they sponsor, they would probably fully understand the league has its standards and own sponsors (Banshee is not only Razer) and accept it if there's no way around it.
I don't think EG would force a player to move country because of that. Actually I think its not very easy but there could be something worked out if GOM wanted them to all wear the Razer headsets, but certainly its not impossible as we can see, HuK wearing a steelseries headset.
Maybe EGAlex can enlighten us, but I highly doubt what you are saying is correct.
Edit: And I think I've already invested too much thought into it. IdrA once said that he will leave or leaves Korea as soon as its worth it. The scene was and is rising, there's so much money to earn and with his level he could have won a lot - but right now the correct choice is to Korea as the level is just a lot higher and IdrA will use this chance to improve massively again while already being really good.
I think right now he's slumping a bit, at least from the results I saw, but he has a good mentality to recover (and yes, I mean it). He does rage, tilt and sometimes does stupid things, but he's a great worker and trains hard.
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leather gracket idra without the beard was definitely my favorite.
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I bet your onto something. Him leaving Korea was very strange, but IF this is true, then Idra handled it like a pro. I'm not saying your right, I'm saying its plausible, 25%-35% it was a factor.
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On September 23 2011 14:10 antikk555 wrote:
Idra left Korea because out the number of major tournaments starting in the US. Its not a conspiracy.
This. Idra has said it multiple times when he left, that it made more sense to participate in foreign tournaments.
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Stop drumming up unnecesary drama. This is a nonissue.
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Hm. That is an interesting fact with the headsets. Never noticed that before.
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Maybe GomTV didn't want their headsets broken.
In seriousness - nah don't think so. The number of major tournaments starting in the US seemed like a good enough reason. He got to troll Zenio too anyway.
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Hmm, interesting theory. However I highly doubt that one little sponsorship would ruin Idra's entire career in korea. idra is not the kinda person who would want to be fucked over like that, and he probably would have kicked up a fuss if this was 100% the reason.
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The razer headset in GSL is so ugly lol. Looks so dumb T_T
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On September 23 2011 14:14 dsousa wrote:
I bet your onto something. Him leaving Korea was very strange, but IF this is true, then Idra handled it like a pro. I'm not saying your right, I'm saying its plausible, 25%-35% it was a factor.
Yeah its pure speculation. Its all obviously circumstantial. However I just look at EG forcing Incontrol to quit SotG which (in SC2) is why he is well known. His has middling results for a top level gamer. No disrespect to Incontrol. I love the guy.
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I really think that this is not right. You have just pinpointed some obscurities that may or may not be true, which it most likely isnt. Im sure if you asked anyone in EG they would most likely deny these claims
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On September 23 2011 14:10 DiuLaSing wrote:
this shud added to the Esport Drama thread
haha!
must. Have. DRAMA!!!!
Conspiracies everywhere!!!
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It was all part of EG.Lectr's plan. Dat guy, is dangerous I tell you.
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You cant be serious and consider this a reason `-_-
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You guys have to remember that Idra wanted to go back to the states for NASL which was not announced yet. He thought it would be free money with 100k prize pool.
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On September 23 2011 14:18 Centorian wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 14:14 dsousa wrote:
I bet your onto something. Him leaving Korea was very strange, but IF this is true, then Idra handled it like a pro. I'm not saying your right, I'm saying its plausible, 25%-35% it was a factor. Yeah its pure speculation. Its all obviously circumstantial. However I just look at EG forcing Incontrol to quit SotG which (in SC2) is why he is well known. His has middling results for a top level gamer. No disrespect to Incontrol. I love the guy.
Where have you heard/seen this SotG and Incontrol news?
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Was around the same type Incontrol was hyping NASL or pre-release of it. It lined up perfectly with Idra's return, doubt sponsership conflict was a biggie.
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Whatever the reason Idra left Korea, the fact remains that HuK is not wearing a Razer headset. Why is that? I have never seen a player wear a non-razer headset since they got that sponsorship, except for HuK in that photo.
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On September 23 2011 14:22 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 14:18 Centorian wrote:On September 23 2011 14:14 dsousa wrote:
I bet your onto something. Him leaving Korea was very strange, but IF this is true, then Idra handled it like a pro. I'm not saying your right, I'm saying its plausible, 25%-35% it was a factor. Yeah its pure speculation. Its all obviously circumstantial. However I just look at EG forcing Incontrol to quit SotG which (in SC2) is why he is well known. His has middling results for a top level gamer. No disrespect to Incontrol. I love the guy. Where have you heard/seen this SotG and Incontrol news?
Where were you two months ago?
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On September 23 2011 14:24 0neder wrote:
Whatever the reason Idra left Korea, the fact remains that HuK is not wearing a Razer headset. Why is that?
because eg is sponsored by steelseries?
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On September 23 2011 14:22 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 14:18 Centorian wrote:On September 23 2011 14:14 dsousa wrote:
I bet your onto something. Him leaving Korea was very strange, but IF this is true, then Idra handled it like a pro. I'm not saying your right, I'm saying its plausible, 25%-35% it was a factor. Yeah its pure speculation. Its all obviously circumstantial. However I just look at EG forcing Incontrol to quit SotG which (in SC2) is why he is well known. His has middling results for a top level gamer. No disrespect to Incontrol. I love the guy. Where have you heard/seen this SotG and Incontrol news?
This wa a while ago, when inside the game came out Incontrol left SoTG and said it was because he didn't have time. EG later came out and said they didn't want him on sotg because it competed with inside the game. He is now back on sotg.
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Interesting observation with the headsets, I don't think that it had any issues with Idra leaving Korea. There were just a lot more tournaments elsewhere, however I think that EG did ask GomTV to use Steelseries headsets over the Razor ones, that seems like it would make more sense rather that a conspiracy theory. 
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That picture of Jinro. so boss.
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On September 23 2011 14:25 Nothingtosay wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 14:22 Grettin wrote:On September 23 2011 14:18 Centorian wrote:On September 23 2011 14:14 dsousa wrote:
I bet your onto something. Him leaving Korea was very strange, but IF this is true, then Idra handled it like a pro. I'm not saying your right, I'm saying its plausible, 25%-35% it was a factor. Yeah its pure speculation. Its all obviously circumstantial. However I just look at EG forcing Incontrol to quit SotG which (in SC2) is why he is well known. His has middling results for a top level gamer. No disrespect to Incontrol. I love the guy. Where have you heard/seen this SotG and Incontrol news? This wa a while ago, when inside the game came out Incontrol left SoTG and said it was because he didn't have time. EG later came out and said they didn't want him on sotg because it competed with inside the game. He is now back on sotg.
Ah, alright. I never listened to SotG back then. Well, thanks for the info. 
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On September 23 2011 14:22 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 14:18 Centorian wrote:On September 23 2011 14:14 dsousa wrote:
I bet your onto something. Him leaving Korea was very strange, but IF this is true, then Idra handled it like a pro. I'm not saying your right, I'm saying its plausible, 25%-35% it was a factor. Yeah its pure speculation. Its all obviously circumstantial. However I just look at EG forcing Incontrol to quit SotG which (in SC2) is why he is well known. His has middling results for a top level gamer. No disrespect to Incontrol. I love the guy. Where have you heard/seen this SotG and Incontrol news?
look in the last SOTG cast (with InControl), they talk about how due to the conflict of sponsorships (something along the lines) they didn't allow InControl on the show after. I honestly thought that was a shitty way to exit the show, because the only reason why i watch shows like that is because of InControl :D.
On Topic: Wow, YAY MORE DRAMA! Although.... you might be getting somewhere, i never remembered Idra with the Banshee headsets, and the weird thing is that he left just before they implemented the use of Banshee headset as the only headset you can wear while playing in the GSL.
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On September 23 2011 14:13 Grettin wrote:
Idra lived in Korea for +/-3 years, most of the time in a house with almost none to talk with. US had major tournaments starting so it was worth to leave. Nothing shady here.
And if they would've forced him.. well it turned out to be great didn't it? Well maybe not skill-wise but look at the other things he is doing/has done now.
How on earth could someone stay in Korea for -3 years.
On topic: I seriously doubt this is the truth. GOMTV panders to foreigners so this would be counter-intuitive.
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On September 23 2011 14:25 Nothingtosay wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 14:22 Grettin wrote:On September 23 2011 14:18 Centorian wrote:On September 23 2011 14:14 dsousa wrote:
I bet your onto something. Him leaving Korea was very strange, but IF this is true, then Idra handled it like a pro. I'm not saying your right, I'm saying its plausible, 25%-35% it was a factor. Yeah its pure speculation. Its all obviously circumstantial. However I just look at EG forcing Incontrol to quit SotG which (in SC2) is why he is well known. His has middling results for a top level gamer. No disrespect to Incontrol. I love the guy. Where have you heard/seen this SotG and Incontrol news? This wa a while ago, when inside the game came out Incontrol left SoTG and said it was because he didn't have time. EG later came out and said they didn't want him on sotg because it competed with inside the game. He is now back on sotg.
That wasn't why. JP was getting a sponsor for the show which happened to be Complexity and it would have required him to have Soundblaster logos all over, which is a direct competitor with SteelSeries. iNcontrol being a co-host obviously couldn't be anymore because an EG player promoting a sponsors direct competitor causes serious issue with the sponsor and when legal issues come into play that's where shit gets nasty. JP didn't go through with it anymore which is why iNcontroL can be on the show. Link in case you think I'm making up: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=145494¤tpage=1287#25729
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Drama for the sake of Drama...
Thats how TL feels recently. And on topic, I don't think its true idra has said numerous times his reasons for leaving.
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Idra leaves Korea for NASL, which is better and esay money than GSL at that moment. He also participate and win IPL easily after he went back.
Pros have to live and make money to pay rent and buy coffee as normal person, nth special.
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On September 23 2011 14:27 MattBarry wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2011 14:13 Grettin wrote:
Idra lived in Korea for +/-3 years, most of the time in a house with almost none to talk with. US had major tournaments starting so it was worth to leave. Nothing shady here.
And if they would've forced him.. well it turned out to be great didn't it? Well maybe not skill-wise but look at the other things he is doing/has done now. How on earth could someone stay in Korea for -3 years. On topic: I seriously doubt this is the truth. GOMTV panders to foreigners so this would be counter-intuitive.
He obviously meant 3 years give or take. As in a little below or above 3 years.
Also I doubt its because of the headset. Koreans said it best. He left for easy peasy money, which he managed to not get none of.
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Are you fucking kidding me? They made him leave because of a headset? He's wearing a damn coat covering up all the sponsors on his team jersey, but he is forced to leave Korea because he can't wear his sponsor's headset... Yeah, that makes sense...
Idra left Korea because at the time the two scenes were still rather isolated and the opportunity for Idra to win big in the foreign scene was quite good. Things have changed as Koreans now play in foreign tournaments.
Did you really think this is a possibility? You know players don't wear their sponsors headsets on stage at MLG too right? And pretty much every other tournament.
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On September 23 2011 14:10 Nothingtosay wrote:
You really think that EG would fly idra out of korea over some fuxing headsets? Do you realize how difficult and expensive it is to move people internationally?
Actually it isn't that expensive to begin with... And certainly not for a company with backing like EG has. It kind of makes sense to me.
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On September 23 2011 14:18 Termit wrote:
The razer headset in GSL is so ugly lol. Looks so dumb T_T
Yes, very tacky, toyish, and silly. I much prefer the more professional looking, refined ones of most other brands.
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Awesome speculation. I really like the part where you make extraordinary claims without evidence.
Stop being a drama-whore. It's absolutely idiotic.
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Worst conspiracy theory ever.
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Idra going back to NA made sense at the time
Korea only has GSL which is the most difficult tournament to play in SC2
the foreign scene had a boat load of tournaments going on and NASL 1 that was going to be launched. potential to win tournaments and make money was supposed to be much more accessible for Idra.
who knew Idra's skill progression would regress so quickly that his only notable achievement was winning IPL 1 which really isn't that great considering it was a NA invite only tournament
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Either there is a massive conspiracy and both EG and Idra are lying or we should take Idra's statement at face value when he says that he left because there were a lot more tournament opportunities outside of Korea.
I'm not one for conspiracy theories.
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