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Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
September 19 2011 17:56 GMT
#541
On September 20 2011 02:54 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 02:46 jlake02 wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:43 Agathon wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:41 Sandro wrote:
Oh my god did that just seriously happen?


Yeah ! I think CoL made the annoucement a bit soon



We have a fully executed (signed) contract, so there was no early announcement.


I don't know under witch jurisdiction the contract is.
But under the french, there is a probation where anypart can break it without any explanation.


This can't be right. What the hell is the point of a contract then? Any business would never sign contracts like this without some repercussions for breach.
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
September 19 2011 17:56 GMT
#542
On September 20 2011 02:54 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 02:46 jlake02 wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:43 Agathon wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:41 Sandro wrote:
Oh my god did that just seriously happen?


Yeah ! I think CoL made the annoucement a bit soon



We have a fully executed (signed) contract, so there was no early announcement.


I don't know under witch jurisdiction the contract is.
But under the french, there is a probation where anypart can break it without any explanation.

Wait this sounds stupid. So French contracts allow either side to renegade on the deal for no reason with no consequence? How does anything ever get done?
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Lunas
Profile Joined September 2011
253 Posts
September 19 2011 17:56 GMT
#543
lmao Millinium pulling out the french laws

hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
September 19 2011 17:57 GMT
#544
On September 20 2011 02:54 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 02:46 jlake02 wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:43 Agathon wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:41 Sandro wrote:
Oh my god did that just seriously happen?


Yeah ! I think CoL made the annoucement a bit soon



We have a fully executed (signed) contract, so there was no early announcement.


I don't know under witch jurisdiction the contract is.
But under the french, there is a probation where anypart can break it without any explanation.


Haha xD
You French!
This is great
v1dom
Profile Joined August 2010
159 Posts
September 19 2011 17:58 GMT
#545
Popping popcorn, replacement F5 key on order.
elevengaming / 4Kings - retired
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
September 19 2011 17:58 GMT
#546
On September 20 2011 02:56 Emporio wrote:
Wait this sounds stupid. So French contracts allow either side to renegade on the deal for no reason with no consequence? How does anything ever get done?

Don't turn this into an American vs France war, it's gonna end badly.
ShallNoiseUpon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States311 Posts
September 19 2011 17:58 GMT
#547
On September 20 2011 02:55 Arcanne wrote:
Best M can do is buyout Stephano's coL contract to get him back


If what Jason Lake says is correct then yes, Millenium would have to buy out the rest of Stephano's coL contract.


ESPORTS DRAMA!
R3N
Profile Joined March 2011
740 Posts
September 19 2011 17:58 GMT
#548
On September 20 2011 02:55 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
Cedric "Cedrix" Page, President of Millennium



Since the beginning of Millennium, we have dreamed of a French esport structure discovering young players with great potential, who would support them in their passion and escort them to the tops ...

Stephano joined Millennium in early stage of Starcraft II, virtually unknown. We have supported him at our best so far. He is now considered as great hope of the world circuit, with enormous potential, and letting him go to another team would have been, for us, a real failure, a nonsense.

The means by which Complexity recruited Stephano was disorienting enough to influence our young player to a bad decision. After discussion, Stephano realized his mistake and decided to stay permanently in the next 12 months, at Millennium.

The day was still rich of teachings.
Following this morning's announcement of the departure of our player to an American a structure, the majority of the French community has regarded this transfer as a logical progress. I have even seen our amateur editors write with resignation that Millennium couldn't compete.

So let's stop devaluing ourselves, let's stop thinking that French should leave the country to succeed. Millenium.org has more page views than sk-gaming.com websitesite or any European or American team out of Team Liquid. Our budget is certainly one of the world's largest structures among the e-sports.
We have to stop seeing ourselves less good than we are because we claim to be a french team.

Stephano as agreed to sign an employment contract 'CDI' (contract with an undetermined term), as "Professional Player", identical to a professional sportsman. He will tour the world to win many tournaments, from Asia to the United States. We place our hopes in him, our dreams of victories made in France, but we also expect many of our other players and the upcoming Starcraft composition League of Legends ...

They make us dream and vibrate! Let Millenium shines for all esports fans that you are and that we are!


Souce


WTF???
Oh boy Drama Oo :DDD
Funkydonky
Profile Joined April 2011
950 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:02:03
September 19 2011 17:59 GMT
#549
edit: deleted post because of new revelations
Favorite players: Stephano, Mana, Polt, Lucifron, Nerchio
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
September 19 2011 17:59 GMT
#550
On September 20 2011 02:58 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 02:56 Emporio wrote:
Wait this sounds stupid. So French contracts allow either side to renegade on the deal for no reason with no consequence? How does anything ever get done?

Don't turn this into an American vs France war, it's gonna end badly.

I think Millennium already started that.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Beubx
Profile Joined August 2010
France4 Posts
September 19 2011 17:59 GMT
#551
Congratz Millenium, we keep the french genius !
Nightshake
Profile Joined November 2010
France412 Posts
September 19 2011 17:59 GMT
#552
Millenium has money, trust me guys.
Odhim
Profile Joined March 2011
France2 Posts
September 19 2011 18:00 GMT
#553
On September 20 2011 02:54 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 02:46 jlake02 wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:43 Agathon wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:41 Sandro wrote:
Oh my god did that just seriously happen?


Yeah ! I think CoL made the annoucement a bit soon



We have a fully executed (signed) contract, so there was no early announcement.


I don't know under witch jurisdiction the contract is.
But under the french, there is a probation where anypart can break it without any explanation.


wrong.

But in France, you have 7 days to break a contract, so ...
jlake02
Profile Joined January 2011
United States395 Posts
September 19 2011 18:00 GMT
#554
For Mr. Page to insinuate we improperly "disoriented" a young player is an outright lie. We have spent weeks negotiating with Stephano and countering offers made by Millennium. This was no quick pressure situation.

We will take a step back and analyze the situation but I hope Millennium honors the rule of contract law and does not disrespect it in eSports. Doing so would set a precedent that would undermine all we are collectively trying to accomplish.

We will evaluate our options but I do not see a way we can allow this blatant disrespect for the contractual process to go unanswered. We will be contacting legal counsel in France and investigating courses of action.
compLexity Gaming - @coL_Lake
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
September 19 2011 18:00 GMT
#555
On September 20 2011 02:56 SimDawg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 02:54 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:46 jlake02 wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:43 Agathon wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:41 Sandro wrote:
Oh my god did that just seriously happen?


Yeah ! I think CoL made the annoucement a bit soon



We have a fully executed (signed) contract, so there was no early announcement.


I don't know under witch jurisdiction the contract is.
But under the french, there is a probation where anypart can break it without any explanation.


This can't be right. What the hell is the point of a contract then? Any business would never sign contracts like this without some repercussions for breach.


When nhl players can breach contracts to go between countries I don't think a contract for a sc2 team is going to hold up in any court. Maybe if the teams is from the same country, but otherwise these "international" transfers and their contracts are not worth much really.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Earawen
Profile Joined February 2011
France51 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:03:00
September 19 2011 18:00 GMT
#556
edit : well he changed his mind...
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
September 19 2011 18:00 GMT
#557
Why would he sign 2 contracts? Did he get a better offer after he signed with coL and he wants to juice out as much money as possible so he signed with Millenium again? :S

What a mess...
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
abunai
Profile Joined October 2010
Scotland103 Posts
September 19 2011 18:00 GMT
#558
And now this turns into arbitrary racial pride. Who cares where you came from.

Hope this is cleared up soon, I love watching Stephano and don't really mind which team he is with;; just make sure that he's with a team that supports him.
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
September 19 2011 18:01 GMT
#559
On September 20 2011 02:54 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 02:46 jlake02 wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:43 Agathon wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:41 Sandro wrote:
Oh my god did that just seriously happen?


Yeah ! I think CoL made the annoucement a bit soon



We have a fully executed (signed) contract, so there was no early announcement.


I don't know under witch jurisdiction the contract is.
But under the french, there is a probation where anypart can break it without any explanation.


I love your name Dandy_Moustachu, and this turn of events is hilarious.
Dandy_Moustachu
Profile Joined July 2010
France422 Posts
September 19 2011 18:01 GMT
#560
On September 20 2011 02:56 Emporio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 02:54 Dandy_Moustachu wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:46 jlake02 wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:43 Agathon wrote:
On September 20 2011 02:41 Sandro wrote:
Oh my god did that just seriously happen?


Yeah ! I think CoL made the annoucement a bit soon



We have a fully executed (signed) contract, so there was no early announcement.


I don't know under witch jurisdiction the contract is.
But under the french, there is a probation where anypart can break it without any explanation.

Wait this sounds stupid. So French contracts allow either side to renegade on the deal for no reason with no consequence? How does anything ever get done?


For employment contract : 1 to 3 month (1 for small work, 3 to important one usually), and the time can be doubled.

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