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gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
September 19 2011 18:01 GMT
#561
On September 20 2011 02:58 ShallNoiseUpon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 02:55 Arcanne wrote:
Best M can do is buyout Stephano's coL contract to get him back


If what Jason Lake says is correct then yes, Millenium would have to buy out the rest of Stephano's coL contract.


ESPORTS DRAMA!


That makes perfect legal sense. A player can be "released" from a team on fair terms, but there has to be some sort of reparation. I just don't see how Millennium and compLexity can both part ways on this issue without a sizable sum of money going to one of the organizations from the other, for rights of Stephano. If Stephano's heart is not with compLexity, that is another issue in its entirety, but contracts and legality comes before desire and passion in this case, regardless of what kiddy stories we hear about.
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Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:02:53
September 19 2011 18:01 GMT
#562
On September 20 2011 03:00 Earawen wrote:
crazy good news ! Can't wait to see how much he can improve during the next year that he's gonna dedicate entirely to sc2.

Congratz Stephano&coL ! coL.MVP.Stephano FIGHTING ! <3


LOL this is why you need to read the first and last post of long topics.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
mki
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Poland882 Posts
September 19 2011 18:02 GMT
#563
Usually the organization states which country the contract is in. If not it's a poorly written contract. I'd imagine coL uses United States (California) law.
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zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
September 19 2011 18:02 GMT
#564
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SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
September 19 2011 18:02 GMT
#565
Stephano needs to make up his mind and go with it. Imagine HuK saying, "nahhh, I'll just stay with Liquid, nevermind guys!" after signing his EG contract. SC players => good decision makers. Come onnn stephano
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Dietch
Profile Joined August 2010
France45 Posts
September 19 2011 18:03 GMT
#566
Finally he's not joining Col. He just made a statement half a hour ago ^^
A man's gonna do what a man's gonna do !
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
September 19 2011 18:03 GMT
#567
Interesting. I'm very interested in how Millennium can compete with the mighty Complexity moneywise.

I think we need an emergency SOTG for the rest of the night
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
September 19 2011 18:03 GMT
#568
rofl i think this will hurt both coL and Millenium reputation tough.
At least he got a nice raise with Mill.
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hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
September 19 2011 18:03 GMT
#569
The fault lies with Stephano IMO, bad form to change his mind like that
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:04:46
September 19 2011 18:03 GMT
#570
On September 20 2011 03:01 Emporio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 03:00 Earawen wrote:
crazy good news ! Can't wait to see how much he can improve during the next year that he's gonna dedicate entirely to sc2.

Congratz Stephano&coL ! coL.MVP.Stephano FIGHTING ! <3


LOL this is why you need to read the first and last post of long topics.

oh you quoted wrong=)
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 19 2011 18:05 GMT
#571
Not taking any side here, but I think backing off from a contract within 14 days even without explanation is valid and even if it would not be the case, the best thing coL could probably do is just accept the wishes of Stephano and let him stay at Millenium because the last thing you want is 'forcing' a player to your team if he doesn't actually want it.

I could understand that they want him to keep his word and stay to what he signed, but in my opinion it would be better to accept that he changed his mind and let him stay at M.

However it goes, glhf. Both teams are great.
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Lunas
Profile Joined September 2011
253 Posts
September 19 2011 18:05 GMT
#572
On September 20 2011 03:03 hugman wrote:
The fault lies with Stephano IMO, bad form to change his mind like that


No it doesnt lies with Stephano he is 18 years old very young player under huge preassure atm from complexity and Millinium.

The problem is right now between Complexity and Millinium

Roynalf
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland886 Posts
September 19 2011 18:06 GMT
#573
I could also see him being under aged to make breaking contract easy
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
September 19 2011 18:06 GMT
#574
This is why you dont sign anything with kids under 18.

Drama is good tho.
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ShallNoiseUpon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States311 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-19 18:08:27
September 19 2011 18:07 GMT
#575
On September 20 2011 03:05 Lunas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 03:03 hugman wrote:
The fault lies with Stephano IMO, bad form to change his mind like that


No it doesnt lies with Stephano he is 18 years old very young player under huge preassure atm from complexity and Millinium.

The problem is right now between Complexity and Millinium



He's 18, he is old enough to make decisions himself.



Edit: Turns out he is actually 17.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
September 19 2011 18:07 GMT
#576
On September 20 2011 03:02 mki wrote:
Usually the organization states which country the contract is in. If not it's a poorly written contract. I'd imagine coL uses United States (California) law.

At most, coL could force Stephano to be arrested in the US for whatever law there is. In Europe, he is virtually untouchable because the french law applies to all french citizen and inhabitants and it's above everything else except the EU Court and the EU parlament.
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
September 19 2011 18:07 GMT
#577
On September 20 2011 03:02 mki wrote:
Usually the organization states which country the contract is in. If not it's a poorly written contract. I'd imagine coL uses United States (California) law.


By default, the "language" of contractual law uses: "THIS CONTRACT WILL ABIDE BY THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK". I was heavily involved in this field of work for a while, and many multi-billion dollar corporations and their contractual agreements and indebted securities had that exact language in them. Whether the legal differences between California and New York would provide any differences in THIS SPECIFIC scenario, I highly doubt it. But not to digress; you are probably 100% spot-on.
C r u m b l i n g
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
September 19 2011 18:07 GMT
#578
On September 20 2011 03:05 Lunas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2011 03:03 hugman wrote:
The fault lies with Stephano IMO, bad form to change his mind like that


No it doesnt lies with Stephano he is 18 years old very young player under huge preassure atm from complexity and Millinium.

The problem is right now between Complexity and Millinium


tbf, we don't know if his parents also signed the contract as well, making the Complexity one actually legit. If anything, the Millenium one is the contract he signed underaged without parental signature for sure, seeing as how it happened in less than a day.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
September 19 2011 18:08 GMT
#579
This news was wtf in the first place but this new piece from Millenium makes it double wtf.
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Funkydonky
Profile Joined April 2011
950 Posts
September 19 2011 18:08 GMT
#580
jesus, can you ppl stop saying he is under 18, his birthday is not correct in TLPD
Favorite players: Stephano, Mana, Polt, Lucifron, Nerchio
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