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Since this whole topic degenerated into the usual balance flamefest where every topic ends up if unmoderated it's time for it to clean up. Locking this down for a while. Any posts made after my post [page 233] not addressing the changes in this patch directly and containting flames or general balance whine will get banned for at least a week. ~Nyovne There is way too much flaming in this thread right now. Calm down before you post! (Page 271) ~iamke55 | ||
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DminusTerran
Canada1337 Posts
On August 26 2011 13:33 IINcheezhead wrote: THIS IS THE WING OF LIBERTY Buffs for Protoss need to come when they get their expansion. "THE BLADE OF THE ZEE-LOT" Pretty sure they are still planning to go with Legacy of the Void. Though for what it is worth, I like your suggestion better. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
It just feels so sexy and beastly. Damn this is how the unit should have been in the first place. Immortals are still pretty clunky but they can and will do more damage against Marauders. | ||
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emc
United States3088 Posts
yea and for the opposing player all they see is the canceled words, they also can see "salvaged" from bunkers. I also noticed the ladder and score screen has been changed and looks a lot better. | ||
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Deltablazy
Canada580 Posts
On August 26 2011 13:31 blade55555 wrote: You can't now if the terran knows about a unit called the ghost, and uses the abilities of snipe and EMP. Yea but the Raven feels more classy. Plus, if the Raven becomes viable in TvZ, Artosis gonna have nerd chills. Not to mention, return of the SK Terran style. | ||
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DminusTerran
Canada1337 Posts
On August 26 2011 13:36 windsupernova wrote: BTW any of you guys have tried the new Immortal? It just feels so sexy and beastly. Damn this is how the unit should have been in the first place. Immortals are still pretty clunky but they can and will do more damage against Marauders. It's also a lot better against stalkers and has equal range to a non thermal lance colo, overall it should hopefully help strengthen robo plays in pvp. | ||
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runforyourllife
United States73 Posts
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dbddbddb
Singapore969 Posts
On August 26 2011 13:39 runforyourllife wrote: o and regarding apm, i do not spam at all in early game, and its a good 33% lower. before was 140, now 90 i dont really understand the new apm calcualtion system. so is spamming 12341234123412341234 counted as ... what? 4 actions? i dont understand it at all actaully. | ||
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Swad1000
United States366 Posts
On August 26 2011 13:32 Bashion wrote: Has anyone posted a screenshot of the new building cancellation thing? Just made it. http://imgur.com/a/TDvOR | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On August 26 2011 13:38 DminusTerran wrote: It's also a lot better against stalkers and has equal range to a non thermal lance colo, overall it should hopefully help strengthen robo plays in pvp. Yeah, with 4gate indirectly nerfed(still, 4 gate maps like Taldarim make 4 gate viable) and the Blink Timming farther down the line PvP now seems much more stable. I am really happy with this but oh well its up to pros to break the MU again XD. And the 5 second nerf, while noticeable has barely no effects. Some fools tried to 2 gate proxy and 6 pool me and they still lose. Regardless 2 Proxy gate is now a pretty scary threat anyways. I think that unless you have godly micro if you let 2 gates build in your base it is instaloss but I have been extra careful in the PTR. | ||
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runforyourllife
United States73 Posts
On August 26 2011 13:41 dbddbddb wrote: i dont really understand the new apm calcualtion system. so is spamming 12341234123412341234 counted as ... what? 4 actions? i dont understand it at all actaully. lol i dont understand it either. i have long stretches of 0 apm, during late game lol | ||
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Cryogenic
Canada75 Posts
This first one gives you your rank (doesn't name the rank though), your wins, bonus pool and ladder. Aesthetically, is looks great. Ignore me blocking out my name...it's pretty public anyways: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/eJHSe.jpg) To the left is a tab called "career". I assume it goes through all the seasons and gives you info on that. In our next screenshot, we have that tab opened: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/0ziKd.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MTsZC.jpg) Whenever you win, it shows your ranking, your opponents, and the bars look shinier (for lack of a better term). This essentially means no more going to the Match History tab to find out your opponents rank: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vhR3L.jpg) I spam my APM by continuously scrolling though control groups, and as a result, my APM is around 100-130. Here is my APM now: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/hisD8.jpg) This made me laugh! Current APM is pretty constant but there is a lot in patch 1.3 that will not be counted for 1.4. I got a couple screenshots for when you cancel a building. This is a nice change IMO and here is what it looks like: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/84oJV.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Fmln9.jpg) Feedback is welcome and I couldn't find pics like this using search. If this could make it's way to the OP it would be great! | ||
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tuho12345
4482 Posts
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doomed
Australia420 Posts
On August 26 2011 13:32 runforyourllife wrote: after playing around 5 games on the ptr, here are my thoughts as a mid master terran 65 second rax--- 11-11 is still very strong, and the timing works out well, just 5 seconds later regular 2 rax works great still too. when rax finishes u have about 200 mins, so the timing is good its a bit annoying having to wait 5 seconds doing a standard 12 rax 13 gas opening to upgrade oc, but no big deal. seeker missile- i think it still sucks, but i only used it vs mass ling and infestor blue flame hellion- obviously wont destroy mineral lines as well, but if the opponent lines em up, mass workers will still die. for zerg infestor -- playing as the terran, my marines hold up a lot better You do realise that the infestor damange towards marines has not changed at all? marines are light, and the damange is the same. The damage to medivacs is slightly less now and so on.. | ||
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Kambing
United States1176 Posts
On August 26 2011 13:41 dbddbddb wrote: i dont really understand the new apm calcualtion system. so is spamming 12341234123412341234 counted as ... what? 4 actions? i dont understand it at all actaully. Just tested it on the PTR with a metronome. It's 1 action. A selection counts as an action and successive selections do not. Once you do something else (e.g., issue a move command), the next selection you make counts as an action and so forth. (To see this on the PTR for yourself, go to metronomeonline.com and issue a drone to move on every click. Then hotkey your hatch and drone and then change your selection from hatch back to drone between clicks. You'll see that your APM in the second trial is 2x the APM of the first even though you would be issuing 3 actions under the old system.) | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On August 26 2011 13:48 Cryogenic wrote: Hey guys, I have some screenshots of the current patch: This first one gives you your rank (doesn't name the rank though), your wins, bonus pool and ladder. Aesthetically, is looks great. Ignore me blocking out my name...it's pretty public anyways: To the left is a tab called "career". I assume it goes through all the seasons and gives you info on that. In our next screenshot, we have that tab opened: Whenever you win, it shows your ranking, your opponents, and the bars look shinier (for lack of a better term). This essentially means no more going to the Match History tab to find out your opponents rank: I spam my APM by continuously scrolling though control groups, and as a result, my APM is around 100-130. Here is my APM now: This made me laugh! Current APM is pretty constant but there is a lot in patch 1.3 that will not be counted for 1.4. I got a couple screenshots for when you cancel a building. This is a nice change IMO and here is what it looks like: Feedback is welcome and I couldn't find pics like this using search. If this could make it's way to the OP it would be great! Thanks, they all look great. And my favourite change is not having to go to my opponents profile to check his league. | ||
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HavokTheorem
New Zealand250 Posts
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On August 26 2011 13:53 doomed wrote: You do realise that the infestor damange towards marines has not changed at all? marines are light, and the damange is the same. The damage to medivacs is slightly less now and so on.. Yeah, but now th fungals have to be better timed, Fungal still feels strong but not as it was before. I have not played as Zerg but when I played as Terran Fungal didn´t feel as devastating as before(not implying it was Imba most of those devastating losses were due to my terrible control) | ||
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doomed
Australia420 Posts
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Kambing
United States1176 Posts
On August 26 2011 14:02 doomed wrote: But that makes no sense? fungal vs marines has absolutely NO changes from now to patch 1.4. "Fungal Growth damage changed from 36 (+30% armored) to 30 (40 vs Armored)." The overall damage was lowered, not just towards armored targets. As a result, now there's a smaller window to land the second fungal to kill a pack of fungaled marines before they get loose. | ||
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MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
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