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LoL is DotA, HoN and every other dota fan in a pile, Sc2 is Sc2 and Sc1.
Meh, who cares, don't compare SC with other games as if they're rivals.
Also stop using LoL and use HoN or something where an APM above 30 is necessary... LoL is like HoN only 100% less skill and speed; I'm a anti-dota fan but if I'd have to watch anything it might aswell have a high skill ceiling.
This is not open for argument, I don't care what anyone else has to say about it, LoL uses less apm and that's a fact, there's no denying or whatnot and the base speed is lower making it a godamn lulleby of a game.
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I just logged into LoL and it is messing with the viewer count. I'm happy for eSports but I think the way Riot advertises is cheap.
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theres only one game's longevity i care about, and its been going pretty well for a good decade despite law suits and cheating so im not worried
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On June 18 2011 20:26 Egyptian_Head wrote:
Why all the hate for LoL? Ive never played it by why hate on the game? If people want to watch it all the power to them.
You simply cannot compare the LoL competitive scene to the BW competitive scene or even the SC2 competitive scene atm.
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Those are fake viewers guys, and i'm not even kidding.
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135 000 viewers and numbers are no fake, haters gonna hate
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Uhmmmm, the stream isn't playing, and clicking it opens up a browser? Explain how that can give fake viewers? It looks like a plain ol' .jpg that links to a webpage to me.
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LoL has doing a very good job of advertising and appealing it's big tournament to it's entire, large playerbase. Say what you will about it's gameplay specifically, but there are a ton of games that have been competitive and have terrible design, but even still I think it will eventually lead to better and bigger games in the end. The Esports scene needs all sorts to fully grow and appeal to all interests, and anything with a huge audience and playerbase should be embraced IMO.
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AS much as i hate LoL. those numbers are fairly amazing. 120k+ Viewers on one stream is no laughing matter. The problem is that i don't see LoL as a competive game. The moment that they focus on gameplay over in game shop is the moment that i might play it again.
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I love all the LoL bashing going on in this thread. Why am I not surprised, even though TL even has their own LoL subforum here on this site.
Lols view numbers aren't a joke as some would make it seem. They're a result of a few different factors.
1. The game has huge popularity, it's something like the 3rd most popular title in NA right behind WoW and cod.
2. This is the only tournament. SC2 has tournaments going 24/7. Lol has 2 major tournaments a year in dreamhack and WCG.
3. Lol has a link to the stream in their client.
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On June 18 2011 19:18 GhostFall wrote:
Aside from SC2 I think fighters are getting bigger.
Definitely. Recently major fighting game tournament streams (there have been at least two per month so far) have been easily getting ~15k viewers, and this years Evo will probably break at least 50k. Considering fighting games were pretty much dead for almost a decade, until SF4 came out in 2009, the improvement is huge.
Also, even though the fighting game scene doesn't really like the whole concept of corporate-sponsored "e-sports", the amount of sponsored players and teams has exploded. Of course the sponsors are mostly smaller gaming-related companies, but still, more and more players are being flown to tournaments by sponsors and no longer have to pay it from their own pocket.
SSF4 (now AE), MvC3 and MK9 are definitely the new renaissance of fighters (of course there are others as well, but they don't really have the mass appeal of the big three).
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i thinks its perfect. if ESPORT would rely on SC2 only, it would be very fragile. gogo Fans!
(atm 35k on Day9 stream and 130k on LoL)
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On June 18 2011 19:01 TheAwesomeAll wrote:Dreamhack is competing with the gsl finals atm, lets not forget. Also, im not sure about this, but some people say that everyone who logs onto LoL will get the stream. edit: im pretty sure people logging in to LoL will automatically connect to the stream.Riot games uses 'Pando Media Booster' Show nested quote +The Pando Media Booster is a tiny (2MB) UI-less client that enables you to cost effectively stream full-screen HD video by leveraging your viewer's collective spare bandwidth. Running as a secure transparent background service on your viewer's computer, the Media Booster optimizes video streams by intelligently streaming your videos from multiple sources; your CDN servers as well as the computer's of other viewers ("Peer Cloud"). messing with the viewer count. End of the thread imo
80k people playing LoL does sound more likely. I got scared LoL was more poopular than sc2 for a moment.
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On June 18 2011 21:04 Hakker wrote:
Lols view numbers aren't a joke as some would make it seem. They're a result of a few different factors.
1. The game has huge popularity, it's something like the 3rd most popular title in NA right behind WoW and cod.
2. This is the only tournament. SC2 has tournaments going 24/7. Lol has 2 major tournaments a year in dreamhack and WCG.
3. Lol has a link to the stream in their client.
1,2,3.. Lol has a link to the stream in their client -embedded stream.
besides this, good for them, the more people spectating video games the better for the whole video games market and the entirety of esports.
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I don't get why people are trying to make excuses like riot are rigging the numbers, LoL streams almost always get more than SC2 streams (except perhaps gsl - don't know because can't see the numbers), both singleplayer casual gaming streams and tournament streams. SC2 fans seem to consider themselves the only esport around when its clearly not the case, a lot of games silently have a huge community but they don't have the money getting thrown at them that sc2 has right now.
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everyone i know paying mmos and have a slight interest in pvp is playing LoL to some extend. That is alot of potential viewers hehe.
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133k viewers for LoL atm.
I think it attracts a lot more people is because you don't have to be 100% focused to play it properly and it attracts more casual players.
I play it myself too :D
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Might have something to do with you being hit by an enormous LoL ad when you go to dreamhacks main page, besides where else can you see LoL tournaments. Still though it aint a bad thing people watch it.
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Why so much hate on other games? Can't we leave this shit behind? The same thing happened back when WoW and DotA became popular. Self rightous esport fascists claming only their game is 'good for E-sport'. Just be happy that E-sport as a whole is growing and that LoL has many players?
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The LoL hate in this thread is ridiculous. Most of u guys are prolly just jelly
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