i picked terran as my race because terran was easiest to play for me. i think protoss is similiar in it's difficulty to terran, but zerg is definitely a little bit harder to play, mechanically at least.

Indrium

United States2236 Posts

May 27 2011 10:10 GMT

#44

On May 27 2011 19:07 TheQSGamer wrote:

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Lol, is this gonna turn into a thread about how wrong IdrA is?

I hope my joke doesn't spawn that. ><

TheQSGamer

United Kingdom182 Posts

May 27 2011 10:11 GMT

#45

On May 27 2011 19:09 Lipski wrote:
i picked terran as my race because terran was easiest to play for me. i think protoss is similiar in it's difficulty to terran, but zerg is definitely a little bit harder to play, mechanically at least.

Exactly my point, its all down to personal preference. There is no 'easier' race. Its a balance, and a damn good one.

The KY

United Kingdom6252 Posts

May 27 2011 10:13 GMT

#46

I don't like this thread because it assumes that everyone believes one race to be easier than the others, and therefore that nearly everyone believes the game is weighted against their favour (because let's face it there's not many people who would say their own race is the easiest...they'd have to be completely unbiased which is difficult as they are naturally inclined to see the difficulties of their own race and the strengths of their opponents).

Esoterikk

Canada1256 Posts

May 27 2011 10:14 GMT

#47

On May 27 2011 19:11 TheQSGamer wrote:

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Exactly my point, its all down to personal preference. There is no 'easier' race. Its a balance, and a damn good one.

Personally I find protoss the easiest to play because their tech is fairly straightforward and zerg the second easiest but play terran because I like the style of play and think protoss is boring and hate the inject mechanic.

So yes I agree all personal preference 100%.

Neino

Norway295 Posts

May 27 2011 10:14 GMT

#48

I play terran and toss, tbh I feel terran is a lot easier. I usually just like to play TvP though, so i'm basing my opinion on how easy that matchup is.

[F_]aths

Germany3947 Posts

May 27 2011 10:14 GMT

#49

On May 27 2011 18:52 kvmetternich wrote:
As a musician the op sounds like "It's harder to learn bass, drum or guitar ?". The noob usually respond "bass". (yes, im a bass and toss player :D)

I used to made fun of a friend who plays bass. Then he showed me what other good bass players can get off their instrument. While he is not there yet, he is the bass player of a band who produces real CDs and have quite a few live performances each year.

In this regard, I could mock you for playing Toss but you probably would beat me (mid-silver) anytime.

On May 27 2011 19:03 TheQSGamer wrote:
Everyone finds different races to be a challenge. (Unless your TLO) If you asked IdrA to play Terran he'd murder you...whether thats because he finds them hard or not I dunno. However I find the easiest race for me to play is Zerg...however some people find it easier to play others. Isn't that what picking a race is about? I love Terran, but I find it hard to play them, so I don't. Zerg is easy for me

So I play them. I think that's the best way of looking at this.

I would not say that zerg is especially easy, but it could be put this way. We zerg cannot wall-in, but this means that we also don't need to worry to wall properly.

For me, the best zerg property is the ability to switch tech fast. Since I have a quite volatile nature and sometimes decide to completely change my strategy (which is not a sign of good play because I would have a solid game-plan if I would be a decent player) zerg fit my needs.

tomatriedes

New Zealand5356 Posts

May 27 2011 10:15 GMT

#50

It al depends on the skill level you're up against and the match-up. I would say terran definitely has the easiest macro mechanics though.

Kraelog

Belgium194 Posts

May 27 2011 10:17 GMT

#51

In terms of general macro, I don't think there a real debate that the order of difficulty is Z=>T=>P.

Zerg is the only race where the APM requirements scale with the number of bases. Terran has mule/scan which is awesome for mineral income. Protoss Chronoboost is incredibly powerful of churn out an insane amount of probes, units and Most importantly upgrades. A 3base toss has in effect a 30s oeps time for any upgrade which can be made up by chronoboost.

Avean

Norway449 Posts

May 27 2011 10:17 GMT

#52

Definetaly Terran and i can give a good reason for it

Theyre tier 1 units which is marines and marauders are extremely powerful which makes a protoss player needing to tech to immortal to counter early pressure. Theyre upgrades like stim and concussive shells are cheap as well. Also medivacs who can transport units and heal at the same time! Also just a 100/100 unit.

People saying protoss is the easiest, well that is just plain wrong. You need micro and good understanding of the game to win as protoss.

TheQSGamer

United Kingdom182 Posts

May 27 2011 10:17 GMT

#53

On May 27 2011 19:13 The KY wrote:
I don't like this thread because it assumes that everyone believes one race to be easier than the others, and therefore that nearly everyone believes the game is weighted against their favour (because let's face it there's not many people who would say their own race is the easiest...they'd have to be completely unbiased which is difficult as they are naturally inclined to see the difficulties of their own race and the strengths of their opponents).

Well no it would assume that people find their own race easier. Why play a race when you find it hard to play? Its exactly like different tactics...spanishiwa plays 14 expand no gas till 40 because he finds it easier to do so. If you told Sheth or Dimaga to do that build then they would struggle. Its not a matter of it infact being easier, its just a matter of how easy you find it.

Let me explain like this:

In terms of football (Soccer for all you US residents): Its very easy for almost anyone to kick a ball. Its very hard for almost anyone to kick a ball like Roanaldo, or Nani, or Tevez. However its very easy for Ronaldo, Nani and Tevez to kick a ball like Ronanldo, Nani or Tevez...you get what I am saying? Its easy to play starcraft. However different people find it EASIER to play different ways and different races. Its not a matter of one race being easier...its a matter of personal preference and skill.

You get me?

panda_inc

Australia170 Posts

May 27 2011 10:18 GMT

#54

Getting into master 4 gating protoss is easiest followed closely by 1 base terran.

Playing properly current metagame imo TvP harder for T, PvZ harder for P and ZvT is harder for Z. Overall zerg is prolly the hardest race to learn for beginners, at master level prolly all around same.

Kraelog

Belgium194 Posts

May 27 2011 10:18 GMT

#55

SlapMySalami

United States1060 Posts

May 27 2011 10:18 GMT

#56

@op using 2.25 move speed as a characteristic of ez race dont work

protoss unit move speed is close enough to where the units stay in a ball and if you check this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=219637
you will notice the attack timings line up with eachother so you basically only need to stutter step at the rate of a stalker

So I play them. I think that's the best way of looking at this.

ofc tlo finds the other races to be a challenge i dont think hes playing terran because he is good at all 9 matchups and feels like being lazy and playing what he may consider a lazy race

[F_]aths

Germany3947 Posts

May 27 2011 10:19 GMT

#57

On May 27 2011 19:14 Esoterikk wrote:
Personally I find protoss the easiest to play because their tech is fairly straightforward and zerg the second easiest but play terran because I like the style of play and think protoss is boring and hate the inject mechanic.

I also consider Protoss tech quite easy to grasp for a beginner. While Terrans have more synergies, they also rely more on synergies. You need a starport for effective stim use, but for a starport you need a factory first. Protoss also have static defense cannons which combine air and ground defense. But other races have their beginner-friendly advantages, too. So I agree that personal preference is the deciding factor.

Vorlik

1522 Posts

May 27 2011 10:19 GMT

#58

This is a stupid thread. Most here probably haven't even seriously tried all 3 races. The mechanics involved for them are very different so you can't put them in the same category. Terran macro is far different from Zerg macro. As other people have mentioned, it comes down to preference. No race is harder or easier to play than the other; it's just different. This kind of discussion promotes flame wars.

Mercury-

Great Britain804 Posts

May 27 2011 10:19 GMT

#59

On May 27 2011 18:43 Bagonad wrote:
Terran will most likely win, there seem to be a surplus of forum-active zerg and protoss players, they're usualy half the population of zerg and protoss respectively in polls.

Nah Zergs mostly focus their QQ on P lately. P got this, e-z.

rfoster

United States1005 Posts

May 27 2011 10:20 GMT

#60

It only depends on what race you play if you ask idra zerg is the hardest, if you ask mvp he says terran is the hardest there is no point