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Befree
Profile Joined April 2010
695 Posts
March 25 2011 03:59 GMT
#201
Good, its definitely a design flaw to have warnings only in the form of audio. Many players out there play without the sound, some don't have speakers, and some are deaf.

I don't see how this could possibly be complained about unless you feel you deserve to be at some sort of advantage over the hearing impaired.
Conrose
Profile Joined October 2010
437 Posts
March 25 2011 04:07 GMT
#202
As a zerg player who enjoys the use of Nydus Worm, I'm perfectly fine with this change. I actually have played against a deaf player who didn't know I had nydused for 2 expansions because he didn't hear it. Any other player would have kept my Mutas busy with drop plays.
Arterial
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1039 Posts
March 25 2011 04:19 GMT
#203
id like it if it appeared like this:

[image loading]
savior & jaedong
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-25 04:23:12
March 25 2011 04:22 GMT
#204
On March 25 2011 12:31 B-Wong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 10:20 koreasilver wrote:
On March 25 2011 10:16 B-Wong wrote:
I wonder how many people are losing to nydus for this to be implemented.

"We analyzed the replay and found that the Nydus is a bit too powerful"

/sigh blizzard.

I guess it wouldn't make too much of a difference considering most people don't use them anyways.

Read the OP.


I did. I don't see what point you're trying to make.

The change is for the deaf, not some sort of imaginary balance change that you're going off about. Seeing as how the message appears when the audio is played, it doesn't change shit.
ChaseR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Norway1004 Posts
March 25 2011 04:24 GMT
#205
Sensory Towers needs more use :D, the problem is when you can afford to build em and where to place them, since the enemy sees it as well (idk why they should) and can pick it off :/
Life is not Fucking Fair and Society is not Fucking Logical - "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
March 25 2011 04:40 GMT
#206
I thought it was pretty awesome to get a direct response from Blizzard in that guy's thread stating that they agreed with his predicament. Very impressed with their consideration, thumbs up.
vindKtiv
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States215 Posts
March 25 2011 04:40 GMT
#207
On March 25 2011 12:31 B-Wong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 10:20 koreasilver wrote:
On March 25 2011 10:16 B-Wong wrote:
I wonder how many people are losing to nydus for this to be implemented.

"We analyzed the replay and found that the Nydus is a bit too powerful"

/sigh blizzard.

I guess it wouldn't make too much of a difference considering most people don't use them anyways.

Read the OP.


I did. I don't see what point you're trying to make.

You and many others have demonstrated a clear lack of comprehension of the OP if you did indeed read the OP as you claimed. The effectiveness of Nydus is not being changed at all. If you play with sound on normally, then there will be no change since you hear the scream at the same time as you see the text, making the text redundant. That means, yes you will see a text, but you would've heard a scream anyways so you have absolutely no advantage whatsoever just because there is a text that pops up. If you have been keeping up with the thread at all, you will have notice that Blizzard isn't implementing this change as a result of balance, but more as a result of making the game more accessible to deaf players or people playing without audio.
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-25 05:10:33
March 25 2011 05:09 GMT
#208
On March 25 2011 13:40 Resilient wrote:
I thought it was pretty awesome to get a direct response from Blizzard in that guy's thread stating that they agreed with his predicament. Very impressed with their consideration, thumbs up.


Agreed, blizzard is actually pretty on top of things.
Troll's version of Blizzard =/= Blizzard. Although, blizzard still doesn't explain balance changes like they explain map changes. That Kind of annoys me.
Turbo.Tactics
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany675 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-25 05:26:22
March 25 2011 05:25 GMT
#209
I personally think it's a useless change when done to make it "easier to react" to a nydus. Just think how often do you lose to a nydus you missed... about 4 out of 100 games? I'm not even talking about the iffy comparison to nuke because you simply can't compare them. I'm fine with it if it's at the same time as the scream but as far as I see it you would have to give nuke an alert siren to make it fair then.

Alternative thought.... maybe just watch the minimap and don't be def.
Zerg - because Browders sons hate 'em
AmishNukes
Profile Joined May 2010
United States98 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-25 05:33:09
March 25 2011 05:31 GMT
#210
On March 25 2011 14:25 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
I personally think it's a useless change when done to make it "easier to react" to a nydus. Just think how often do you lose to a nydus you missed... about 4 out of 100 games? I'm not even talking about the iffy comparison to nuke because you simply can't compare them. I'm fine with it if it's at the same time as the scream but as far as I see it you would have to give nuke an alert siren to make it fair then.

Alternative thought.... maybe just watch the minimap and don't be def.


Considering this is targeted at actual deaf people, you look like kind of a jerk atm.

EDIT: I failed.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
March 25 2011 05:51 GMT
#211
does nuke give the sound effect??
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
March 25 2011 06:08 GMT
#212
On March 25 2011 04:44 SmoKim wrote:
Show nested quote +
Thanks for the suggestion. We took this to the team and it's something we're going to actually implement for you in a future patch. It will be a text alert in yellow, just like Nukes.


edit: i am gonna pretend it is when the nydus is done /crosses fingers

Use some common sense. There is no reason to pretend. It is obvious that it is at the same time as the scream. You should feel bad.
Dr. ROCKZO
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand396 Posts
March 25 2011 06:09 GMT
#213
Fair update, this isn't a nerf to the Nydus really. Just like how macro mechanics updates aren't a buff to all 3 races. They're just handy UI features that everyone appreciates.
or something
bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
March 25 2011 06:10 GMT
#214
On March 25 2011 14:51 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
does nuke give the sound effect??


Yes,
"Nuclear Launch Detected" - voice.

Anyway, good work by Blizzard for aiding those who are less capable with their senses, and have no means to help it.
I play Random - HuK, DRG + Liquid fan
Xanbatou
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States805 Posts
March 25 2011 06:12 GMT
#215
This thread has turned into a giant honey pot for people who have no reading comprehension. I think the mods should mass ban everyone who thinks this is a bad idea. Would help clean up TL a bit.
Turbo.Tactics
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany675 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-25 07:20:27
March 25 2011 07:18 GMT
#216
On March 25 2011 15:12 Xanbatou wrote:
This thread has turned into a giant honey pot for people who have no reading comprehension. I think the mods should mass ban everyone who thinks this is a bad idea. Would help clean up TL a bit.


Well... this would also negate any reason for it to be thread worthy since the whole point of a forum is discussion between two parties to give a 3rd party i.e. the reader a comprehensive view on every aviable opinion.


Supporting players who are deaf or simply play without sound is a good thing. As is Blizzards reaction time to a little thread on the bnet forums. But if that also means every player gets extra preperation time against nydus worms, which are already hard to miss for any player capable of looking at the minimap ,then it clearly needs refinement.

I'm not saying it's a bad idea but want to point out that the intention behind it can't be to "nerf nydus" or "make it easier to spot". If the text appears before the scream, it's a nerf... it's as simple as that. A nerf that in my opininon isnt necessary (as pointed out earlier) and shouldn't be the intention behind this change.
Zerg - because Browders sons hate 'em
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
March 25 2011 07:20 GMT
#217
as long as the worm is already erupting its not that big of a deal. if youre not already in position to deal with it when it starts shitting out stuff this warning isn't gonna ruin nydus.

they were bad anyway lol
Xanbatou
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States805 Posts
March 25 2011 07:25 GMT
#218
On March 25 2011 16:18 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 15:12 Xanbatou wrote:
This thread has turned into a giant honey pot for people who have no reading comprehension. I think the mods should mass ban everyone who thinks this is a bad idea. Would help clean up TL a bit.


Well... this would also negate any reason for it to be thread worthy since the whole point of a forum is discussion between two parties to give a 3rd party i.e. the reader a comprehensive view on every aviable opinion.


Supporting players who are deaf or simply play without sound is a good thing. As is Blizzards reaction time to a little thread on the bnet forums. But if that also means every player gets extra preperation time against nydus worms, which are already hard to miss for any player capable of looking at the minimap ,then it clearly needs refinement.

I'm not saying it's a bad idea but want to point out that the intention behind it can't be to "nerf nydus" or "make it easier to spot". If the text appears before the scream, it's a nerf... it's as simple as that. A nerf that in my opininon isnt necessary (as pointed out earlier) and shouldn't be the intention behind this change.


Except it's incredibly obvious that the text accompanies the scream.
hmzkht
Profile Joined January 2011
United States18 Posts
March 25 2011 07:30 GMT
#219
its like nobody actually bothered to read the first post explaining the change.

good call by blizz tho. don't know any deaf people that play but heyyyy.
Turbo.Tactics
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany675 Posts
March 25 2011 07:34 GMT
#220
On March 25 2011 16:25 Xanbatou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 16:18 Turbo.Tactics wrote:
On March 25 2011 15:12 Xanbatou wrote:
This thread has turned into a giant honey pot for people who have no reading comprehension. I think the mods should mass ban everyone who thinks this is a bad idea. Would help clean up TL a bit.


Well... this would also negate any reason for it to be thread worthy since the whole point of a forum is discussion between two parties to give a 3rd party i.e. the reader a comprehensive view on every aviable opinion.


Supporting players who are deaf or simply play without sound is a good thing. As is Blizzards reaction time to a little thread on the bnet forums. But if that also means every player gets extra preperation time against nydus worms, which are already hard to miss for any player capable of looking at the minimap ,then it clearly needs refinement.

I'm not saying it's a bad idea but want to point out that the intention behind it can't be to "nerf nydus" or "make it easier to spot". If the text appears before the scream, it's a nerf... it's as simple as that. A nerf that in my opininon isnt necessary (as pointed out earlier) and shouldn't be the intention behind this change.


Except it's incredibly obvious that the text accompanies the scream.


Call it paranoia but this wouldn't be the first time that a change that was supposed to fix everything turned out something completely different.
Zerg - because Browders sons hate 'em
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