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I don't get it. I'm not trying to be provocative, and not a fanboy by any means. I just don't get it.
First, this is where I'm coming from: I knew very little about computers 3 weeks ago, but had to get a new computer (I'll just say I suddenly didn't have one). I had no money at all save for $425 leftover from coming back from Europe/Africa. I found out that it was possible to build a computer with this money.
My $350 computer can play SC2 at everything maxed out, with high resolutions, and 60+ FPS. Clearly, buying a prebuilt PC is completely retarded, I learned. Even asking a PC store to build one for you, or getting the parts and having them build it, is a million times better.
And I'm not arguing that Mac sucks, not at all. If the Mac OS is better, than why not just build a computer, and install Mac on it. I hear the big appeal with Mac, is that it 'looks cool', and from all the articles and studies I read, it's mostly a personality thing, with Mac users wanting to feel 'differen't (cough tools cough). So sure, let's say Mac is cooler looking. They do look cool, I don't disagree with that. But why not just build a computer, and buy a Mac case? You could even dig up an old Mac for cheap, throw away the insides, and put your setup in it.
And it's hard to believe that Mac is way cooler looking than some insane high-end case, not to mention it's totally possible to simply build a case (since technically, you don't need a case, you can just plug the CPU, GPU, HDD, RAM, MoBo together and lay on a table). I think a Model Airplane would be way cooler looking of a case than a Mac case! Hell a car would be cheaper than a Mac to be used as a case (plus the 50 foot long wires from the garage).
When I checked the Mac website, all the computer (sorry, "Macs") were $2,000+. For the cheapest one! And the processors were all outdated, and the rest of the gear was horrid (3gb ram? lol?). Hell my $350 computer performs better than a $2500 Mac. Wow.
Apparently, from what I hear, Mac handles video real well. No shit sherlock, you have a GPU in there. Buy a computer with a GPU! Duh. And no wonder Mac is so good, it's because you spent $3000 on it. If I spent $3000 on a computer it would be a double hexacore oil immersion, with money left over.
So I'm not here to bang on Macs. I'm not. Where I'm coming from, is that buying a prebuilt PC is dumb when you can make one, better, for cheaper. So, for the same reason, I think buying a Mac is dumb when you can buy a prebuilt PC, which is dumb when you can build a PC. Just build a computer, and install Mac OS on it. Just build a computer, and use Mac cases and parts.
Then I've heard that Mac OS is slow, and takes up more processing/requirements than equal MS. But ignoring that, I stil don't get Macs. So it's easy to navigate? Just get Rainmeter and customize your desktop. And it's hard to believe that Mac is better than the million custom OS's out there for Linux anyways.
TL;DR: Nothing bad about Mac - my argument is that, Buying a Mac is stupid because you could buy a cheaper and faster PC, which is stupid because you could build a cheaper and faster PC. mac look cool - buy a Mac case for your build. mac work cool - install mac os on your pc. You don't like windows interface - use rainmeter or a ton of other customizations. No shit mac is good, its because its $3000 - for $3000 you can build a dream PC that's way better. Just install a GPU in your pc...
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In all honesty, I don't even think Macs look better. Haha.
They're sorta hipster looking and all clean and, idk.
PC seems more hardcore. Haha!
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Not good with computers (and got no reason not to spend silly amounts of money on a computer?)
Get a Mac
Decent with computers?
Get a PC
Got no life?
Get Linux
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I used to think it was for MacOS, but now MacOS is compatible with Intel CPUs, so you can install it on any computer.
Nowadays, people buy MacBooks because it's like 3mm thinner, even if it costs 1500$ more. That's 500$ per millimeter. Definitely not worth unless you don't know how to spend your money, or company pays for it.
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PC guys here. But I'm a programmer and like having administrator access to my own computer.
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Can you post the specs on that computer? i need a new motherboard and processor on the CHEAP.
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On February 15 2011 13:20 endy wrote:
I used to think it was for MacOS, but now MacOS is compatible with Intel CPUs, so you can install it on any computer.
Nowadays, people buy MacBooks because it's like 3mm thinner, even if it costs 1500$ more. That's 500$ per millimeter. Definitely not worth unless you don't know how to spend your money, or company pays for it.
Yo, sony makes NICE notebooks with SSD's in them now, but for a marginally cheaper price, it's windows, and it's the same thin..ness.. o_O
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I agree that Mac's are hell overpriced, for what? I once saw an article talking about the Mac computer parts, and even their parts are overpriced but function the same and not exactly better as the usual cheap PC stuff. I guess Mac's are for bragging to people that you could afford them.
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Because it's pretty .... lol stupid people.
I'd never buy a mac personally because of all the reasons you outlined above. It's just a giant waste of money when you can buy the exact same specs and build it yourself for like $1000 less. It's for those who know shitall about computers  or you're loaded and you don't mind blowing 1k
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Successful marketing by Apple. Branding and lifestyle associated with the Mac is so bullshit, but people really believe it.
My school's media lab is fully stocked with Macs, they could have asked the hundreds of super tech informed students at my school what to get and we could have delivered way more power at the same price of equivalent power at half the price.
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they are dumb-ed down and easy to use, and arent plagued with viruses, also they make you hipster, which is a plus
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i like this thread, i don't understand all the hassle about the mac either. it's just trash.
custom built pc 4ever!
and what the_link said
they cater to a whole different crowd than efficient and wise people when it comes to technology
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Hahaha, my favourite in-lecture game is to guess the Mac to non-mac ratio. Usually about 70-90% of all laptops are Macs lol... ahh University students- so educated. :D
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Macs dominate the 1000+ laptops right now.
But yea, what you said is right. But you really can't honestly expect a "regular" user to use Linux, can you?
Look, do you own a car? Have you ever owned one? If you haven't, what do you do when your car breaks down? Do you fix it yourself or go to a repair shop? Do you find familiarity with automobiles a valuable skill?
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I have a brand new 17in MacBook Pro that I'm forced to use every day at work (damn you iPhone apps...) and while it is definitely not worth the $2400 that we paid for it, it's still a nice machine. The screen is sexy, to say the least  .
People who are into PC's and have the know-how to build their own will almost never buy a Mac (unless they absolutely have to - see iPhone apps) because they are overpriced. But, not everyone has that ability and it's very convenient when your machine breaks because you can just take it into a local Mac store and talk to a person who knows english (not "indianish"). People will pay a premium for that type of service.
I hate Macs for all they are but some there are some legit use cases where it is worth it to pay the "Mac Tax." Those use cases usually don't apply to people who have computer skills and can build their own machine for a fraction of the cost.
P.S. I'm aware that there still are some local PC shops around but it's becoming near impossible to find a good one.
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This is a bad place to expect objective responses. Most people here excessively prefer functionality over.. well everything else. Ask the same question in different places and the responses will differ. Ask in a programming forum -- with the intent of having a knowledgeable sample -- and you might be surprised at the number of people who like macs. I myself am (trying to be) a programmer and prefer design over power. I prefer a comfortable machine that just feels good. And since pretty much every processor made in the 90's allows you to program in any computer language, then processing power is not a major concern.
For me building a desktop is just a waste of money, as I just can't simply use it for working purposes.
I can tell you that in this forum, people are very hostile vs Apple. Which kinda pisses me off but I'll just leave it at that.
Also, don't buy into all that "being hipster" shit. I rarely take my macbook out and few people know I own one. I couldn't care less if they knew.
Edit: I think functionality was a bad choice for a word. Processing power is nearer to my point.
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walk in any coffee shop and it's 100% lol.
As for the reason.. it's pretty much a trendy thing to have. Like why would anyone spend $80 for a shirt when you can get one that works just as well for $30... because it's trendy.
And you know, maybe this is a bad thing in your eyes but stuff like that actually does attract compliments or whatever. I'm not saying that macbooks make you friends, but it sure does have a better chance than a pc. Here's a test: type macbooks are awesome as your status on facebook and see how many likes you get. Test doesn't apply if the majority of your friends are computer geeks.
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On February 15 2011 13:42 Furios wrote:Test doesn't apply if the majority of your friends are computer geeks.
Wrong. You're looking at the wrong kind of geeks. Many I've seen will never choose Microsoft over Apple or even Microsoft over anything else.
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Linux can be better than Mac in too many ways, but it requires some knowledge in order to do it, because distros that have default installations (like Ubuntu, lol) are often bloated. Now, when you know how to customize an installation, you can get your PC to prompt for your username and password in 8-13 seconds without X, and in 20-30 seconds with a desktop environment. You can also have the entire installation to be loaded into your ram, causing programs to run at light speed. You can also have an unbelievable beautiful desktop environment, and work in multiple workspaces for convenience. You can also play SCII xD.
But yeah, the price to pay for knowing how to is your life. Not all of it though lol
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